Posted on 06/07/2012 5:36:36 PM PDT by Misterioso
Well, the real victory was not necessarily over the Nazis, but in keeping the Soviets out of Western Europe. At that time, Stalin was going to win the war with or without the second front. It was just a question of where the Red Army was going to stop after beating Hitler.
And thus the reason the Libertarians can never have my vote.. a foreign policy based on wishful thinking and cotton headed dreams
As far as USSR winning on its own... with out the aid of the allies in fuel food and arms moscow would in all likelihood fallen and Stalin removed.. would the soviet replacement fought on or made a deal... the world wonders...
And thus the reason the Libertarians can never have my vote.. a foreign policy based on wishful thinking and cotton headed dreams
As far as USSR winning on its own... with out the aid of the allies in fuel food and arms moscow would in all likelihood fallen and Stalin removed.. would the soviet replacement fought on or made a deal... the world wonders...
In the WW II history thread with the newspapers one can read about many of FDR’s programs getting the ax, defunded, etc. Other researchers have shown that congress started opposing the New Deal policies before WW II and the Depression was easing before the war.
However, our success in WW II did help to solidify FDR as a great president in many people’s minds. My mom for one “FDR ended the Depression and won the War”. My old man (WWII vet - RIP)HATED FDR.
My dad would tell of how mad he was that we didn't take care of business then as well. Although I imagine it would have been a hard sell to tell the folks back home that their boys just won the war, but were not coming home as now they were going to fight their allies.
Was D-Day the beginning of a heroic crusade to “Free Europe”
The Western world could use a “crusade” today~~~this time it’s about the creeping spread of islam~
I believe the Russian Army would have gotten behind Vlasov if the Bolsheviks fell. That was the best case scenario, that Hitler would succeed to the point where Stalin and the Bolsheviks are out of power, and Russia rallies behind a non-Communist to defeat Germany and at least create a new Russian state.
The latter I think more probable. a Russia with much less Europe if any. With the soviets out of the fight, the resources left to the axis would have made Overlord nearly impossible. A new cold war would probably ensue after some time with US/BRIT vs Central Europe Powers. But as with all things one can not really know. (this all depends on the soviets falling early enough that Brittan would still be recovering from 1940 and the USA not in the War at all till 42.
Simplistic. Sometimes war is waged as a racket of the ruling classes. Sometimes it is waged because it is necessary.
Stopping the Nazis was necessary. Some no doubt made a racket out of it. That didn't make it any less necessary.
D-Day was just another step in a huge global world. It was important but but seems that younger people sometimes think the war began and ended on D-Day. Maybe that’s because of the high profile movie a few years ago. Landing at Normandy was critical but it only got us on the continent. The big work of rolling the German army eastward had just begun.
Much of the dangerous settlement of our nation was done by Christian individualists. A point Miss Rand would have doubtless ignored.
Had the US not rescued Britain, saved France, and overthrown Fascism in Italy, millions more would have died in Europe, Germany would have likely developed its own atomic bomb, and the US would have been a sitting duck with no strong allies left. Russia would likely have been over-ran with India and China not far behind.
Lets face it, Adolph Hitler was the biggest contributer to Germany’s defeat. His fateful decision to stop the drive on Moscow and concentrate on those bogeymen behind his back in Kiev during August/September 1941 sealed Germany’s defeat. Up to that point if the drive on Moscow was continued instead of abandoned for several weeks, the Soviet Union’s defeat was a certainty. He should have had the Hungarians, Rumanians and Italians contain the trapped Soviet armies in the Ukraine and continued the drive on Moscow with the Wermacht, which was at the pinnacle of its success.
Yes, all the lend lease trucks mechanized the Soviet armored divisions staring in 1942. The Soviet mechanization would not have made up for German operational excellence except for Hitler’s repeated meddling in the East.
Lets face it, Adolph Hitler was the biggest contributer to Germany’s defeat. His fateful decision to stop the drive on Moscow and concentrate on those bogeymen behind his back in Kiev during August/September 1941 sealed Germany’s defeat. Up to that point if the drive on Moscow was continued instead of abandoned for several weeks, the Soviet Union’s defeat was a certainty. He should have had the Hungarians, Rumanians and Italians contain the trapped Soviet armies in the Ukraine and continued the drive on Moscow with the Wermacht, which was at the pinnacle of its success.
Yes, all the lend lease trucks mechanized the Soviet armored divisions staring in 1942. The Soviet mechanization would not have made up for German operational excellence except for Hitler’s repeated meddling in the East.
Lets face it, Adolph Hitler was the biggest contributer to Germany’s defeat. His fateful decision to stop the drive on Moscow and concentrate on those bogeymen behind his back in Kiev during August/September 1941 sealed Germany’s defeat. Up to that point if the drive on Moscow was continued instead of abandoned for several weeks, the Soviet Union’s defeat was a certainty. He should have had the Hungarians, Rumanians and Italians contain the trapped Soviet armies in the Ukraine and continued the drive on Moscow with the Wermacht, which was at the pinnacle of its success.
Yes, all the lend lease trucks mechanized the Soviet armored divisions staring in 1942. The Soviet mechanization would not have made up for German operational excellence except for Hitler’s repeated meddling in the East.
She called America the only moral country the world had ever known.
Winter came to the aid of the Soviets, but yes the Former Cpl was in no way a great field commander.
What investments overseas? Explain.
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