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06/08/2012 | Sporke

Posted on 06/08/2012 12:46:13 AM PDT by Sporke

Bowling changes...VANITY


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Hobbies; Miscellaneous; Sports
KEYWORDS: bowling; hobby; recreation; sports
Are there any Bowlers out there?

I've bowled off and on for 40+ years, with a few breaks of several years at a time. I've bowled in leagues when I was a teen and when I was an adult.

After taking a break of maybe 8 years or so, I've started bowling again. I go on Thursday nights, on College night, because I can bowl 10-12 games for 10 dollars (any other time and it's 3.50 a game).

This is what I've noticed when I bowl with mostly college age kids. First, they have no clue what bowling etiquette is, which bothers me but is understandable, although I feel if a person has their own personal ball, they have no excuse for not knowing how to act. Second, almost every guy is between 17-23 years old, and they use an 8-11 pound ball. They seem to think the object is to not use any of the finger holes, palm the ball, and see how much they can curve the ball. That in itself is a bit strange to me but what gets on my nerve is the fact that if they don't get a strike, they have no clue how to shoot at a spare, and most times, don't even try to pick spares up. It wouldn't bother me if they were making an effort to learn something, but they don't.

I don't know if this is a local thing or not, but I assume it's not. As a guy who really loves the sport, I just find it sad. I probably shouldn't post this, because I'm not saying much, but what the hey. I guess I just wonder if anyone else has noticed how bowling has changed over the years. To me, it seems as if kids won't put in the effort to even learn how to improve in bowling.

1 posted on 06/08/2012 12:46:26 AM PDT by Sporke
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To: Sporke

No standards because no fathers!

It’s not just bowling.


2 posted on 06/08/2012 1:04:24 AM PDT by donna (Mitt quote: ...gay couples raising kids. That's the American way...)
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To: Sporke

Bowling is no longer 3 games for 5 bucks, including shoes.

Most of us learned to bowl by watching wide world of sports. Earl Anthony, Mark Roth, Johhny Petraglia were names in my household.

Ask someone to name a pro bowler today and they would stare at you. Bowling for anyone under the age of 30 is either taking your kid to a bowling party or taking a date, drinking beer and showing how fast you can toss an 8 pound ball down the alley.


3 posted on 06/08/2012 1:06:08 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (ABO 2012)
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To: Sporke

It is probably just a cheap date or night out for them, rather than bowling. And as long as they aren’t loud and obnoxious - who cares. BUT - how about asking if they are up for some tips on how to bowl. Then get them to play for a round of snacks or something for the losing team to add some fun competition to their new-found skills.

No doubt the better skills and a bit of fun competition will add to their enjoyment of the evening. And you’ll no doubt get some pleasure in passing on some of your skills. (And don’t turn down any free drinks or snacks they might offer).


4 posted on 06/08/2012 1:09:51 AM PDT by 21twelve
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To: Sporke
Heck, I remember when men would wear suits and ties when they went bowling.

Too bad about the sport. All sports are going down the tube. That's what a decayed totalitarian culture creates. Everything sucks.

Dick Weber!


5 posted on 06/08/2012 1:27:54 AM PDT by I see my hands (It's time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)
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To: Sporke
Check it out.

6 posted on 06/08/2012 1:32:22 AM PDT by I see my hands (It's time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)
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To: Sporke
It's the same here in Pittsburgh. Had to give up bowling a while back but sometimes fill in with Mrs p6's company league. While her group and a few others aren't bad, most seem to think it's just a big party.

The last league I was in was mostly older guys and while we were far from pro's we at least TRIED to bowl. Sure there was some fun fooling around but nothing like it is now.

7 posted on 06/08/2012 1:37:02 AM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: Sporke

There’s bowling as a serious sport, and then there’s bowling as a casual social outing. It’s the same with pretty much all sports, really. You wouldn’t expect to see top sportsmanship, technique and etiquette on the basketball court at the park. There’s no harm in a bunch of kids (or adults) having fun, showing off for each other, and laughing at their collective awfulness.

That said, if you only bowl for the beer and pizza and you invest in expensive personal bowling equipment, you’re probably just kind of a d-bag.


8 posted on 06/08/2012 2:09:52 AM PDT by Méabh
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To: Sporke
I just finished watching this championship match. Nice post.. you've got me watching classic TV bowling on You Tube, lol.

BTW, I've bowled at the Imperial Lanes in Toledo.

Roll the ball,
Roll the ball,
Groove it in, we can win,
Roll the ball.

It's a crucial frame now,
So take good aim now.

And we'd have won if,
You let go of the ball!


9 posted on 06/08/2012 2:52:26 AM PDT by I see my hands (It's time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)
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To: Sporke

I guess I just wonder if anyone else has noticed how bowling has changed over the years. To me, it seems as if kids won't put in the effort to even learn how to improve in bowling.

Bumpers.

Can't let little Johnny or Jessica suffer the humiliation of ever throwing a gutter ball.

10 posted on 06/08/2012 3:02:37 AM PDT by dancusa (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. H.L Menkin)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

My favorite bowler of all time was “Billy Golembiewski”!


11 posted on 06/08/2012 3:18:39 AM PDT by Recon Dad (Gas & Petroleum Junkie)
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To: Sporke

I started bowling in a middle school league on Saturday mornings back in the late 60s. It became a date night outing in high school and college. I got into league bowling again while I was in the Army, serving in W.Germany. Upon return to civilian life, I bowled on a company team in the early 80s but gave it up due to some of the personalities on the team.

If I were to go bowling again and observe the behavior you describe, I’d probably feel the same way. As another poster noted, my bowling formative years were filled with names like Dick Weber and Earl Anthony. The little bit of bowling I occasionally catch on TV seems like the sport has gone NASCAR with the logos being prominent rather than the bowler. The behavior you saw is just a reflection of the broader society and the pro bowling scene.


12 posted on 06/08/2012 3:32:51 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Sporke

http://www.bowlingevolution.com/download-bowling.php
This is a fun, free game download. You do not have to buy the updated version.


13 posted on 06/08/2012 4:11:57 AM PDT by mirkwood (subliminal message)
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To: Sporke; xsmommy

You mark that frame an "8" and you're entering a world of pain.

14 posted on 06/08/2012 5:30:29 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Sporke

Bowled as a teen and young adult - It’s been many a year now. I have a Manhattan Rubber 15 1/2 pounder that I bought in 1966. Also bowled duckpins as a boy.

Don Carter - Andy Varipapa - Marion Ladewig


15 posted on 06/08/2012 5:32:16 AM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: Recon Dad
I remember Billy G. I liked Carmen Salving in his early days when he used to crank his wrist ‘hard over’.
16 posted on 06/08/2012 6:01:46 AM PDT by JPG (Don't just talk about it, make it happen.)
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To: JPG

Salvino.


17 posted on 06/08/2012 6:04:23 AM PDT by JPG (Don't just talk about it, make it happen.)
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To: T-Bird45

Pro Bowling has gone to the pits, from bowling outside at Disney to the blatant unsportsmanship behavior, it’s nearly impossible to watch.

I don’t know who decided that bowlers needed to be LOUD on TV. I’ll admit bowling isn’t the most exciting sport to watch on TV, unless you’re really into bowling like I am, but geez, making it seem like wrasslin isn’t helping the sport any.

College bowling is fun to watch, that hasn’t been ruined yet. Sometimes I wonder if a college instructor could fix some of the dozens of flaws I have in my game, but I think I’m set in my ways and will spend my life as a 160ish bowler. I’ll survive. :)

Two more things happened last night that drove me almost postal. I saw someone hit the pin sweep with their ball....7 times. 7 times. I’ve never seen that happen before more than once, and back in the day, it would get you thrown out. The other thing that I consider even worse, was the amount of cell phones present. People had a ball in one hand and their phone in the other. Cell phones are just evil. 4 friends are there bowling, and when it’s not their turn, they’re texting. I don’t know exactly why that bothers me so much, but it does. My kids are lucky they grew up before cell phones were so popular, because if I had young kids, they wouldn’t have cell phones.

Yes, I know I sound like I should be sittin on the porch of some general store playin checkers....


18 posted on 06/08/2012 11:09:11 AM PDT by Sporke (USS-Iowa BB-61)
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To: Sporke
Are there any Bowlers out there?

Greetings. I must confess being late here, but would like to add a few thoughts. My industrial working class city in Ontario was a hot bed of ten pin bowling in the 1960's. Four active lanes. The big lanes have just closed down at the local plaza and may not open again. Only one small bowling alley left and still very modern. Attempts were made to get the young people into the sport at the old lanes. Music and flashing lights were added. It had some success. Schools sent youngsters down to learn to bowl also. Now the owners are moving on to other things.

You are lucky if you can get young people into the sport and indeed some of them might seem to annoy old timers. I should not ramble on, but if the kids keep on coming, there are hopes for some education on the finer points.

Well, only one alley left, in a city of nearly 80,000. We hold our breath for a new entrepeneur. Many seniors are going to wonder what to do in the winter with a sharp cutback in the Senior league bowling. I am told the surviving lanes can fit us in on a Friday. Most bowlers in the old senior's league are retirees, as I am myself.

19 posted on 06/08/2012 6:44:54 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: Peter Libra

I feel ya. There are 100,000 here, and we used to have 5 bowling alleys, back in the early 80s. Now we have one, with 16 lanes, which sucks because they can overcharge for everything, and they do.
I’ve seen a couple of their leagues. I’ve seen one person a few people in their 40s, and most of the others in their 50s and 60s. I would fit in there, since I’m almost 50, but I do wonder where all the 30s crowd is.
From the rumor mill I’ve heard a new bowling alley is in the works here, and I hope it’s true. I don’t even trust the one bowling alley here to drill a new ball, which is not a good thing.


20 posted on 06/08/2012 8:11:25 PM PDT by Sporke (USS-Iowa BB-61)
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To: ConorMacNessa

Duckpins is harder than it looks. I had a heck of a time with that little ball.
We had a few duckpin lanes around here,but most are gone.


21 posted on 06/10/2012 3:12:09 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Sporke

Since I don’t bowl, I have no idea what bowling etiquette entails. Care to explain for those of us without a clue?


22 posted on 06/12/2012 4:23:39 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Sporke
4 friends are there bowling, and when it’s not their turn, they’re texting. I don’t know exactly why that bothers me so much, but it does.

That's a question that actually bears some looking in to. Since you say that you're not quite 50 (I'm in my late forties as well), you're not old enough to be the typical techno grouch. And I thought I was a meanie for making my kids wait until they were 12 before I'd let them have cell phones. My daughter being younger found it especially onerous as she had to endure her brother having a cell for a full year and half while she did not.

23 posted on 06/12/2012 4:30:57 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Melas

I’ll give you the simple answer. If you’re on the actual bowling surface (the approach), then no one on the lane to your immediate left, and immediate right, should be on the approach to their lane, until you bowl.

If that doesn’t make sense, let me put it this way. If someone on the lane next to you is about to bowl, you shouldn’t start bowling on your lane until they have bowled.

I suck at explaining things.... :-/


24 posted on 06/12/2012 8:40:05 PM PDT by Sporke (USS-Iowa BB-61)
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To: Melas

I’ve never been a fan of cell phones, even before they took pictures/movies. What finally put me over the edge was at my Grandmothers house last Christmas. My two nephews, who are about 7ish, were sitting about six feet from each other, texting each other, and they did it for a long time. It didn’t make me postal at the time, but it did plant a seed. :-P

We have become a world where not only do we not interact, but we don’t even look up to see the world anymore. I do have a cell phone, but when I leave the house it stays at home. If someone needs me, they can find me. :)

As for your own cell phone rule, I respect you for it. I would be the same way if my kids weren’t already out of high school.


25 posted on 06/12/2012 8:46:52 PM PDT by Sporke (USS-Iowa BB-61)
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To: Sporke

You explained it perfectly. You shouldn’t distract a bowler on an adjoining lane.


26 posted on 06/12/2012 11:52:40 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Sporke
As for your own cell phone rule, I respect you for it. I would be the same way if my kids weren’t already out of high school.

Mine are grown as well. 2004 sounds recent, but the truth is that my 20 year old son was only 12 at the time. It's not fair how much faster time seems to move the fewer years we have left.

I guess I can say that I personally have had a cell phone since the 20th century. I can't imagine being without it anymore. Cell phones are as much a part of my life today as automobiles were to my parents, although I did not have a cell as child, and they did not have automobiles (in the family) as children.

27 posted on 06/12/2012 11:58:25 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Melas

Something else I just remembered...
It’s rare but I’ve seen people get hurt because they didn’t wait for someone on an adjacent lane to bowl. Sometimes people try to use body-english, or celebrate, and move their whole body over into the next lanes approach. I’ve seen, more than once, a celebrating bowler get taken out by someone on the next lane who was just trying to bowl. It was not a pretty sight.


28 posted on 06/13/2012 1:05:20 AM PDT by Sporke (USS-Iowa BB-61)
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To: Sporke

I’m really bowled over by this thread.


29 posted on 06/13/2012 9:56:25 AM PDT by EveningStar
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