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Obama's family fraudulent identity.
Myself | June 11, 2012 | Myself

Posted on 06/11/2012 5:41:04 AM PDT by plenipotentiary

Both Barack Obama II and Stanley Ann Dunham are invented personas.

A male child was born, probably son of Malcolm X and an unknown woman possibly Jo Ann Newman (per Martha Trowbridge). The childs father knew his days were numbered so to protect his only son he arranged with his Muslim and Communist contacts, to have him brought up in Indonesia under the protection of President Sukarno. He was a member of the Presidents extended family and under the direct protection of a high ranking Indonesian special forces officer, Pak Lolo Soetoro (which was probably not his real name). Soetoro did have a wife, and Obama believed her to be his mother, but she was not.

Sukarno was removed from power in March 1967.

In 1971, Obama II was moved to Hawaii, at that point the character of Stanley Ann Dunham was created (the birth certificate they use is illegible and that indicates that it does not support the created identity, and therefor everything after that in her story is also false) to allow a connection with communist agents, the Dunham family, and allow Obama II to be mentored in Communism by Frank Marshall Davis. The Dunhams probably had a son called Stanley Armour Dunham Junior (fate unknown). They initially changed the first names to Shirley Ann, and then ridiculously to Stanley Ann Dunham. SAD was never in Seattle, Why would she go to University there and take a night school or correspondance course)

Obama I was introduce briefy as Obama II's fake father. There probably was a real son of Obama I, but he was sidelined (maybe the Roman Obama who was stranded in KGB training school in Moscow)and the person we now know as Barack Obama II took his identity.

Obama II is a creature of the KGB and the Muslim Brotherhood, who both share aims to impose their way of life on the USA.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: birtherism; fraud; malcolmx; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamahistory; stanley; vettingobama
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To: Fantasywriter

The correlation is that if WA state is colluding with hiding what SAD did or her whereabouts, it’s small scale - easy peasy - compared to the HI corruption and lies.

So it’s not reasonable to assume that WA State could not possibly have hidden or lied about it.

One of the problems is that there is so much that is just not “there”! There is no “there” there. Emptiness. Lack of documentation, first hand evidence, witnesses, and so on. From my readings of the various research threads since the summer of 2008, and I will admit I read voraciously and like an obssessed person, every single thread I could find, the people doing research just searched to see what they could find, where ever it led, not looking for evidence to support any particular end. They followed leads and evidence no matter where it went - dead ends, surprises, theories shot down or supported, etc.


161 posted on 06/15/2012 5:54:17 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah

No one seems to read my posts. I’m not talking about WA State. I’m talking about someone mentioning the fact that SAD disappeared for a yr and/or failed to graduate. The idea that the school and the state would elevate this to a Rushmore level and not even one person would speak out is absurd. People say they wouldn’t remember, but they would. If SAD had disappeared prior to her senior yr, people would have talked about it THEN. Yrs later, they would simply remember what was said.

As in, when the Cult of SAD-Graduated-From-Mercer-Hi first began, dissenting voices would have been heard. People would have said, ‘Don’t you remember? We all commented on the strangeness of SAD disappearing that yr, and of her failing to graduate.”

To suggest otherwise is to ask others to participate in group psychosis. I won’t/can’t go there.


162 posted on 06/15/2012 6:03:39 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: LucyT; Fred Nerks

163 posted on 06/15/2012 6:15:23 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Fantasywriter

I see it differently, although as David mentioned above, it is not that huge of a thing one way or another in the larger scheme of parenthood.

But - consider that no one “remembers” or at least says anything about 0mugabe’s years in Occidental, Columbia (whichever one it was) or Harvard. Dead, eerie silence, other than that Drew fellow who of course the MSM never touched. And in Mercer, far fewer people to have to quieten. I think it would be easy to quiet a few handfuls of people, compared to the very large number of people who know all manner of highly incriminating stuff about 0mugabe and say naught. Doesn’t that make sense?

Plus - maybe I’m not typical, but I barely remember most people from high school; but then I went to a different school every year.


164 posted on 06/15/2012 6:17:35 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: LucyT; Fred Nerks; David

Port Angeles Evening News, Friday, October 14, 1960, Page 7:

More than 1,400 yearbooks were judged, representing 49 states and overseas schools. The top-ranking ones will be place on display in a Columbia University memorial library.

Schools 301-600 (attendance): Second place-—Isla, Mercer Island High School.


165 posted on 06/15/2012 6:36:20 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: little jeremiah

Well I gave my personal anecdote. There was a girl in our HS who missed much of her senior yr. Gossip? You better believe it! And even now, all these yrs later, I can tell you her name, first and last. [She had a name that sounded so much like a black girl, bless her heart, but she was a redhead covered w freckles.]

If today her out-of-wedlock child became the POTUS, there are so many of us who would remember her story. If the school and/or state tried to pull a fast one, and portray the offspring as from a traditional marriage [for instance] we would speak up. If no one listened, at the very least we would post on blogs and other online venues. The truth would come out.

The idea that SAD disappeared for her entire senior yr from an island community w but a single HS, and no one gossiped is beyond bizarre. If it had happened, they would have talked. That is the way it is at that age.

Nor do I buy the idea that every single one of them could have been silenced. That is an example of making a conspiracy so big and so crazy, it gives the whole eligibility community a bad name. Obama’s people are thugs but they don’t have superpowers. He can’t shut every member of an island community up; he’s just not that god-like.


166 posted on 06/15/2012 6:36:51 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: little jeremiah; Brown Deer

It’s pretty difficult to remember a girl who wasn’t there...but we aren’t asking for much, are we? Just show us the pretty pictures on a page, A FULL PAGE:

http://seattlest.com/2008/01/30/obamas_mixed_an.php

They handle a number of books, but at no time do we see what year the books are from, nor do we see her face on a full page of any book.

NOTE THE BEGINNING. SHE SPENT ONE YEAR IN SEATTLE AND TWO YEARS AT MERCER ISLAND. CLASS OF 1960 GRADUATED IN 1960. CLASSES COMMENCED AT MERCER IN 1956. WHERE WAS SHE AFTER 1958?


167 posted on 06/15/2012 6:51:56 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: Brown Deer
...The top-ranking ones will be place on display in a Columbia University memorial library.

So does that mean someone can visit the library and ask to see the yearbooks for Mercer Island? (chuckle)

168 posted on 06/15/2012 7:14:53 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: Fantasywriter

Then how could all of 0mugabe’s fellow students at Occidental, Columbia and Harvard - and Punahou - all have been silenced? A much harder task, since there were so many more of them.


169 posted on 06/15/2012 7:15:29 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah

College is not like HS, especially an only HS located on an island. HS is a community. People know ea other. At the beginning of the yr the focus is always on who’s back and who isn’t. Most are back, unless the community is highly transient. When one of the regulars is missing, the question is why. If nobody knows the answer, then speculation runs wild.

College is a bigger place, and at the beginning of the yr most people don’t know ea other. At the end of a semester or two (or more) there are still far more students you don’t know than those you do know, especially at a university. For example, for the 2010 academic year, Columbia University’s student population was 27,606. If one of those students is a pothead who skips a lot of classes, it’s entirely possible few people will remember him.


170 posted on 06/15/2012 7:26:35 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Fred Nerks

What do want to bet that the yearbook(s) from Mercer Island are the only missing yearbooks from that display?


171 posted on 06/15/2012 8:43:12 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

Tell you what...if anyone can find a genuine 1960 yearbook anywhere that has images of Stanley Ann Dunham on the pages, (not snips with her image inserted between students)I will cheerfully donate a thousand bucks to FR.


172 posted on 06/15/2012 8:53:14 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: plenipotentiary; WildHighlander57; DiogenesLamp; Bikkuri; Brown Deer; David; Fantasywriter; ...

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Say, this just arrived in FRmail about graphic at # 145.

>>>>Did notice in your post of Stanley’s BC that the City is tagged as Sedgwick and the County is tagged as Wichita.

Probably a small point, but it should be the reverse. Can’t read the BC. Tagging error?<<<<

Thanks, anonymous.


173 posted on 06/15/2012 10:05:43 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT

May be it says

Stanley Armour Dunham Secundus

The more I think about it, Stanley Armour Dunham 1 looked like an egotistical patriarch. He had a son that he named Secundus because he wanted to start a dynasty. The boy died young. Madeleyn Dunham seems to have had difficulty bearing children, as they stopped at the one.

Also, they burned Mum so no DNA check there. Someone just needs to dig up Dad! (joking)

I think DNA checks with Malcolm X Juniors living relatives, both real and alleged, will establish definitively.


174 posted on 06/16/2012 12:40:40 AM PDT by plenipotentiary (Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth, passed to him via Pops, can't be NBC)
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To: LucyT

Also, why can’t we see the field showing the sex of the child? I imagine it says MALE, not female.


175 posted on 06/16/2012 12:50:56 AM PDT by plenipotentiary (Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth, passed to him via Pops, can't be NBC)
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To: SatinDoll
To your #47:

Exactly what in that do you think is "disinformation"? That's actually the state of the record at the moment for people who have been paying attention.

I thought "Fantasywriter" was a good faith, "didn't understand" proposition. His arguments were attacks on what I perceive as the weaker elements of the case as summarized in #46 and above.

Those objections don't really withstand real thought--the circumstances of her PhD; whether she finished school in 1960 at Mercer Island; the Stanley the mother argument; and the fact that no one is out there objecting to the fairy tale about the Mercer Island period don't really affect the analysis.

How she got the PhD; whether she finished school and graduated from Mercer Island or maybe somewhere else; don't make any difference to the fundamental case that Stanley's initial role with Barry was as a glorified baby sitter because Barry's true mother was an active professional in another line of work internationally and neither she nor the father wanted their relationship or their son on the public record.

And it's pretty obvious that even as to the fairy tale, there are clear gaps in the period of her custody of Barry that are inconsistent with the proposition that she was his mother.

In looking at the Mercer Island period, it is easy to overlook the proposition that we are talking about events that happened fifty-two years ago. Vietnam intervened. Many of the people who knew or would have known are dead. To find someone to stand up in the Mercer Island crowd and object, they need to have hard evidence and a very confident accurate memory; and they need to be able to deal with the character of the personal attacks from the Liberal's that are going to follow.

There are a couple of people who have in fact come out but they are uncertain or otherwise soft.

But the uncontroverted facts are that even on the Liberal record, Stanley was not a prominent or well known or well liked person whose most regular personal relationships were with people in the class. Other than the committed Liberals who are part of the program, no one knew her; no one knew she was in the class in the first place--she was a late comer; it isn't clear when she first attended either the High School or one of its feeder schools but it looks as though her first contact with them was in her Sophomore or Junior High of High School so even if she was there to the end, she was an insert that nobody knew.

And Mercer Island is a highly stratified society--the movers at the High School are son's and daughters of influential people who themselves grew up to be members of an influential Liberal social order. Stanley's father was a furniture salesman and she was really out of the Mercer Island league so it is not surprising that no one knew who she was.

As to the Sheriff, Mike, and the Posse, I am all for them. But they don't look very effective from my point of view--their resources are limited; they aren't experienced in this kind of situation; and I don't at present see anything that looks likely to have a political impact before the election. I hope I am wrong. It looks as though they have added Donald Trump to their assembly and that should help them a great deal.

In terms of what can be published here, there is a limitation because in the case of new discoveries, as soon as they are posted here, the Opposing Forces are out there scrubbing the record and they do have substantial resources.

176 posted on 06/16/2012 7:54:10 AM PDT by David
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To: David

Dear David: I know you’re not doing it on purpose, but nevertheless you’re completely, 100 percent misrepresenting my post to you. Please go back and read what I said again more carefully. I did not make the points you think I did, but I did make a very important point that you have yet to acknowledge.

Thank you.


177 posted on 06/16/2012 8:24:52 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: David
Let me give you an illustration of what's going on. Let's say there is a car sitting on a used car lot. It has a price tag on it. I inspect the car and write up an analysis, the bottom line of which is, ‘Given all that is wrong w this car, the asking price is entirely out of the ballpark/unreasonable.’

You take my analysis and start picking it apart thusly:

She says the tires need to be replaced. Big deal. Any dealership can do it, and it won't take more than an hour or two at most.

She says the transmission needs work. Well how long has it been since it was serviced and tuned up? Any issue w it can probably be resolved by simple maintenance.

She says the shocks are shot. Hello??? Anybody heard of having new shocks installed? It's a procedure that is performed many times daily all over the country.

And so it goes. Your nitpick of my list succeeds in making certain individual items look ‘silly’, in your words, yet all the while you ignore both the purpose of the list and the conclusion. I believe you are an astute enough reader and thinker to be able to go back to my post and extract the larger issue. If I didn't, I wouldn't bother posting to you.

178 posted on 06/16/2012 10:09:11 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: LucyT; All
Book Review:

‘Barack Obama: The Story’ by David Maraniss

http://bostonglobe.com/arts/books/2012/06/16/barack-obama-the-story-david-maraniss/oivndSsZHQQFveP7XRspiK/story.html

By contrast, in his biography of Bill Clinton, “First in His Class,’’ Maraniss describes a bawdy, natural politician who made himself known from a relatively early age — a high-school achiever known for pressing the flesh, someone who ran for every student office at Georgetown. I was startled by the sheer number of people Maraniss talks to who do not remember young Barack Obama at all.

Barack Obama Sr., however, is impossible to forget.

179 posted on 06/16/2012 11:03:41 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Smokeyblue
Another book review:

The Hidden Obama

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303901504577461660023302338.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

Mr. Maraniss's 641-page opus is an exhaustively reported journey through Mr. Obama's early past—a past that, until now, has been little explored despite David Remnick's 2010 biography of Mr. Obama and Janny Scott's 2011 biography of his mother. "Barack Obama: The Story," the first volume in what will supposedly be a multivolume biography, begins long before he is born—and, yes, just to be certain, Mr. Maraniss interviews people who worked on the maternity ward when Mr. Obama's mother gave birth to him in Honolulu in 1961—and ends when he is accepted into Harvard Law School in 1988.

Huh? Has anyone read the book?

180 posted on 06/16/2012 12:02:22 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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