Skip to comments.The decline of American decency
Posted on 06/11/2012 12:46:30 PM PDT by Deadeye Division
Rush Limbaugh never fails to sicken me and his comments last week on our own local celebritys act of selflessness puts me at wits end.
While many readers who want to lump me in with the run-of-the-mill liberal journalist stereotype probably think Im blowing off steam about Limbaughs overall conservatism, that is not the case at all.
The man is a complete idiot. Period.
In case you missed it, he stooped to an all-time low (quite possibly trumping even his illegal Viagra possession, pain killer addiction and entirely sexist attitude toward all womens issues) in what he apparently saw as some insightful truth into the declining nature of the capitalist values he believes make the United States the end-all-and-be-all of human existence.
Specifically, he took the story of West Liberty-Salem long distance runner Meghan Vogel helping another runner cross the finish line and said the young athlete lacks the spirit of American competitiveness that makes our country strong.
What the dolt is missing about the true American spirit and what Meghan demonstrated by pushing Arlington runner Arden McMath ahead of her in the state 3,200 meter track competition is that life isnt all about coming in first place in some athletic competition.
In fact, sometimes people do stop to help each other out.
Just the other day, I was walking to work and a man asked me for directions to the nearest gas station. Instead of blowing on by him so I could get to work and earn my cash as Limbaugh wants all to believe is the only worthwhile pursuit in life I took the time to point him in the right direction.
Recently, local businessman Robert Notestine spoke with me about giving a few bucks here and there to folks who are homeless or down on their luck.
These everyday acts of consideration for others may not equate to or garner the national attention of sacrificing a better placing in a state competition, or as Limbaugh goes on to compare it to Rory Sabbatini sacrificing the Memorial tournament so Tiger Woods can feel better about himself, but they do occur throughout our country on a daily basis.
As a matter of fact, if life were all about competition, Middle America probably wouldnt exist at all.
Wed all be off running the rat race in New York or Los Angeles trying to be on top of the American dung hill Limbaugh and his ilk call home.
Quite frequently people ask me why I dont aspire to work for a bigger newspaper, but I just dont.
I was born right here in Bellefontaine. My family is here. People know me. And, honestly, I dont know of any better place to ply my trade than right here in Logan County. And, trust me, I have ventured out.
So, according to the radio loud mouth, thats just one more strike against me as a true American.
But in my opinion, it is the people of all the small communities who are not striving to be on top in Washington, the Big Apple or Hollywood that make America what it is.
And yes, we do frequently stop to help our neighbors or even complete strangers out, despite the fact that it may entail a sacrifice on our own part.
And this opinionated blowhard has the gall to say were the ones making America weak.
In my own opinion, the television and radio stations that feed us this endless stream of drivel from arrogant pundits like Limbaugh are much more to blame for the decline of America than the Meghan Vogels of this country.
Reuben Mees is an Examiner Satff Writer and vitriolic despiser of television-era punditry that serves no purpose in educating our society. He can be reached at firstname.lastname@example.org
Dude needs to learn the difference between competition and real life.
In short, freedom is what the American Revolution was about; and slavery is what fascist, communist and socialist states are about.
I thought the story about the long-distance runner was also quite ridiculous, but not as the author is proposing. If the other runner was dying and you could save them, then yes - one should/must stop to help.
but carrying them across the finish line in a simple high-school track race? Its taking feelings and sentimentalism to a ridiculous level. Its a form of political-correctness. Kids have learned they will never get criticized for being too “caring” even if it is symbolic, pointless, or even harmful.
I don’t agree with Limbaugh that its about “American competitiveness” - its really about applying proper judgement to a situation, and over-the-top emotionalism present in America today.
The young runner was completely correct. Pick up the slow or fallen runners, the faster ones slow down so all cross the finish line at the same time so they all get trophies.
By reproducing his article here on FR you increased his readers from, at the most, two dozen to tens of thousands. He deserves neither.
His newspaper has a circulation of about 500 per week. Logan county is rapidly becoming mostly Amish and they don’t want to read his vitriol. He stays because no other paper wants him.
As for Rush destroying decency, he is fighting harder than most to maintain what decency this country has left.
One of the things I DO appreciate about liberals is their ability to let you know exactly what their hour-long spiel is about in the first sentence.
Sometimes, the first two or three words.
I will bet $100 his car looks like this:
Rush competes in the radio market, squashes his competition...
...then turns around and gives millions to the Leukemia Foundation.
Then he tips restaurant servers and valets with hundred dollar bills.
Then he causes advertisers to prosper and hire more people, until they cower and dump him.
Then he has his own well-paid staffers both in the studio, his newsletter publisher, his clothing line and in his household.
Then he provides work for the corporate aircraft industry, the luxury car industry, the personal security industry, the oil industry, the landscaping industry, the cigar industry, the electronics industry.
He causes all of the homes in his neighborhood to appreciate.
He pays out millions in federal, state, and local taxes.
I think we need to ask ourselves what the world would be like without competitors.
You got that right! When Rush used the phrase, “the new castrati”, he must have recognized himself and has been knashing his teeth ever since. :)
What a humanitarian. He's done more for peace than drone em to death Mr 0b0tt0.
Give him the next KnowBull prize!
So, she was supposed to triage?
I guess I’m just going to disagree with everybody.
The writer, because s/he’s carping on Rush @ decency, when the policies s/he probably supports have been actively destroying decency and responsibility for decades.
Go to the projects schmuck. THEN come back and gripe about loss of decency.
I didn’t hear Rush, but the runner had the freedom to do what she did too. Didn’t she?
She chose to help.
I for one will not fault her for that.
Amen. Rush and his family are the emptopy of decency, American and Judeo-Christian values. Patriots who need no apologists. G-d Bless Rush! (please)
He got several things wrong, and even Limbaugh didn’t mention the elephant in the room.
He thought that Limbaugh was condemning the girl for her actions. Not really. The girl had a choice and decided to be generous. Limbaugh’s point was that while she was a crowd favorite, she still lost, because the other girls continued running.
However, as usual, he never takes the best punchline for himself. In this case, his real point was in condemning the adults who were in charge of the race for *breaking the rules*.
The rules say, “runners cannot help other runners”. Clear as that. But because what she did was popular *with the crowd*, they decided to ignore the rules and give her an award to which she was not entitled.
Think about the implications for that.
Let’s say the Red Sox and the Cubs are playing the tie breaker game of the World Series in Boston. The Red Sox have played well that year and won their way, fair and square, to the World Series. But the Cubs have become a media favorite, fighting and scrapping and barely winning every game.
They are called the “Cinderella Cubs” by the media, and Obama spends millions to tout them as “his” home team. The MSM fall all over themselves with praise for the Cubs.
Well, the World Series is just like the rest of the season. The Cubs have three men on base and their best batter is up, whose wife lay dying in the hospital with breast cancer.
Strike one!, and the crowd roars its disapproval.
Strike two!, and the crowd openly boos.
Strike three!, and according to THE RULES, the game is over and the Mets win. BUT WAIT! Obama himself sends a message to the Baseball Commissioner, who tells the umpires to give the Cubs batter ONE MORE CHANCE!
The Mets are visibly upset, and complain, but are overruled. The Cubs have *tried* so hard this year, and the batter is such a good guy, and his wife is so tragic, that it would be *unfair* to *not* let him try to hit the ball again!
Does it matter at that point whether he hits it or not?
The game is ruined. No number of asterisks next to his name will ever restore the value of the World Series. It will have been ruined, in the name of “fairness”.
Does this indicate a declining country? Perhaps, perhaps not. But it does mean that the country has lost its sense of fair play and honor.
“What people tell me about Rush Limbaugh never fails to sicken me (since I never actually listen to him) and what I heard from other libs about his comments last week puts me at wits end (or would, if I had any).”
If a runner collapsed and was dying the officials would stop the race and either finish it from that point or run it again.
The girl that stopped to help said, “it’s not worth a state championship.” Well, la-te-da! Tell that to the coaches and teammates who worked hard to win.
Of course, her finish in this race did not make a difference but that’s not the point.
Way back in my little league days (I was 6 or 7) we were losing a game pretty bad and in the final inning I hit a ground ball to second which was easily caught. I wouldn’t have made a bit of difference in the game and I didn’t run it out to first base.
My coach chewed me out and suspended me for the next game. By today’s standards he’d be the villian but I learned my lesson.
...”and what Meghan demonstrated by pushing Arlington runner Arden McMath ahead of her in the state 3,200 meter track competition is that life isnt all about coming in first place in some athletic competition.”
When I saw what she did I couldn’t help but think of D-Day and Omaha Beach. The US Marines will always have a need for people capable of performing such heroics and acts of valor.
However, she took herself out of the running in the process.
“... even his illegal Viagra possession...”
You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts. Leave it to a liberal to turn an outrageous invasion of privacy and an example of gross government overreach into a way to slam Limbaugh. He had a prescription for the drugs found by a security screener who had no business taking the matter further than he did. And if this exact thing had happened to you, you would have written a long column about how outrageous the resulting inquisition was.
Funny thing is, some people actually believe that.
Sorry, Reuben. Your comments are just tired old clueless Liberal
mush - a waste of our time.
Clearly anyone reading some of the response on here would see the how much the decline of American decency.
I guess if my neighbors barn gets hit by lightening or blown away in a cyclone instead of helping organize a barn raising I should rejoice at the prospect that his farm will now do poorly now that he has no barn where as it will make my farm and its products that much more valuable. Maybe use it to force him out of business maybe pick his farm up for pennies on the dollar.
I dont know this blogger and he may be a left-wing wacko and I dont care, but I do know Rush and though he is pretty much right on the money on things anyone that doesnt recognize the fact that he at times is more than a bit of a blow hard has been worshipping at the dittohead alter to long.
What the girl here did didnt effect the competition as both girls were out of the running she merely came to the aid of a fellow athlete. I guess those people who cheer on someone in there 20th hour of a marathon race must be nuts because the person is clearly a LOSER! The winner had finished up hours ago so why cheer them on?
There is competiveness and there is sportsmanship and the problem as I see it isnt the lack of one or the other its the lack of balance of the two.
“What the girl here did didnt effect the competition as both girls were out of the running she merely came to the aid of a fellow athlete.”
Was it her job to do what she did? Weren’t there people present whose job it was to come to the aid of a fallen or otherwise distressed runner?
I sometimes wonder if these things don’t happen because one one or more of the people involved in what would appear to be (non-life-threatening) gallantry, are only in it for the impromptu photo op or other publicity they can use as a resume enhancer or self-esteem maintainer.
“I sometimes wonder what the heart of people who wonder things like you do is like? Is it as dark and hard as their words?”
Sure, words have meaning but sometimes they’re just thoughts passing through.
Just because you had to sit down and think about what you were going to write to me those words carry more weight and are usually truer than the spoken word where sometimes one can spout out without thinking.
Tomorrow will be the next day. Thank you for your thoughts today. It’s a good thing we have here at FR.
Mees responds to “all the negative comments Ive seen this past week from right wing extremists about my personal opinion of Rush Limbaugh”.
Living with a liberal label
No way I am going to his website to read his whines. If he washes that brown stuff off of his chin, maybe I’ll consider it.
Living with a liberal label
Written by Reuben Mees
Monday, 18 June 2012 10:24
All the negative comments Ive seen this past week from right wing extremists about my personal opinion of Rush Limbaugh mainly by anonymous Internet users who have no idea who I am as a person started me thinking about where I do shake out politically.
I know I am neither Democrat nor Republican although I do typically vote in Republican primaries because that is oftentimes the deciding race in local politics.
Over the years, Ive been called a liberal more times than I can count (I would never venture to guess how many times former Logan County Sheriff Michael Henry asked, Hows my favorite liberal reporter today?)
Although Ive usually just let those comments slide, Ive never considered myself all that liberal, however.
And when it gets down to brass tacks, Im finding I may be a lot more conservativethan most people who know me may realize at least on the economic issues. I even voted for Ron Paul in the last two presidential primaries.
So Im going to tell you what I do believe and let you decide what you think.
First and foremost, I believe in fiscal conservatism at all levels of government. Wasteful spending is the root of economic downfall.
I believe the two-party political system we have come to accept limits our nations ability to grow intellectually and prevents those with a genuine desire to affect change from realistically achieving any meaningful ends.
I believe Congress as it is organized under the Constitution (i.e. both houses being elected on solely geographic criteria) is no longer the best-suited body to represent the diversity of people in the United States.
I believe in a limited military capable of protecting our homeland and a strong citizenry with the right to bear arms that would assist the armed forces against any effort to invade our nation. Let other countries deal with their own issues and wage international warfare only when there is a serious cry for help or blatant human rights violation.
I believe in severely cutting regulatory government but, at the same time, I believe government-run social programs such as public education, public roads and transportation and even a well-run public health care program that provides free basic preventive and emergency medicine are essential to a healthy society based on equality.
I believe in limiting welfare and disability programs to only the most severe cases.
I do not believe the government should step in and tell individuals or businesses they must buy health insurance, eat broccoli or not drink super-sized sodas.
I also dont believe the state should force religious or other groups to hand out free birth control. Leave that up to the free public clinics.
I do believe in fostering ideas throughout our society now regarding population control, primarily by giving up the senseless debates on assisted suicide, pulling the plug on coma patients or a womans right to choose whether or not to have an abortion.
I am not a Christian although I do respect the beliefs of Christians and recognize the importance of the social programs churches provide. But I do not view the afterlife in the way most Christians do. Instead, I tend to believe in a form of reincarnation and karma that determines our reward or punishment in the next life.
Thus, I believe in the summary execution of convicted murderers and repeat violent offenders and the physical castration of violent rapists, which would in turn reduce government spending on prisons.
I believe all naturally-occurring, non-processed substances currently classified as drugs should be decriminalized. On the flip side of that coin, I believe the production of processed chemicals, including prescription pain relievers and other pharmaceuticals should be slashed and violators (including major pharmaceutical companies) should be held accountable and dealt with as criminal offenders.
I believe in personal responsibility for ones own actions and a genuine compassion for other human beings.
And although I may not have stated it quite this succinctly in my previous column, I believe this is what motivated West Liberty-Salem runner Meghan Vogel to carry another runner over the finish line and not as Limbaugh told his listeners a lack of competitive spirit that indicates a decline in American drive to succeed.
So this is what I believe. Call it what you will.
That being said, I still believe the Rush Limbaughs, Bill Mahers and all those purported journalists whose sole purpose in their professional careers is to help one party control the presidency and Congress are not worth a hill of beans.
Reuben Mees is an Examiner staff writer who would like to thank the many local residents both Democrat and Republican who expressed both their favor and disfavor for the previous column in rational terms. He can be reached at email@example.com.
By reproducing his article here on FR I increased his conservative readers to tens of thousands. It sounds as if he heard from them.
Saint Rush’s comment cited by the blogger (I don’t listen to radio shouters since Wolfman Jack has passed) reminds me of a bumpersticker I saw on a Land Rover SUV in a bad traffic jam lined up a half mile before a toll plaza: “Second place is the first loser”. Do I have to be explicit? There were 50 or more vehicles in front of Mr 1st Place!
What do they call it, Situational Ethics?
Voted for Ron Paul in the last two primaries.
I admit that when I hear “Rush Limbaugh is a total (INSERT EXPLETIVE HERE)!” followed by an admission (explicit or otherwise) that they have never listened to him beyond a snippet of audio, then I usually will consider that person a liberal.
I have three examples of my own personal behavior that buttress this, as I consider myself a conservative, and find common ground in this approach with others I regard as conservative.
I was railing about excerpts I had read from Barack Obama’s book “Dreams From My Father”, and was pointedly asked if I had actually read the book. I admitted that I had not, although the excerpts I referred to seemed to stand on their own just fine. But, I felt as though I had to read the entire thing just so I could speak with authority on what I read.
So I read it. God, it was awful. Real linguistic torture. But I read it.
Same kind of thing with Saul Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals” and Marx and Engels’ “The Communist Manifesto”.
I really had a hard time getting through the Manifesto which I found paint-drying boring, but “Rules for Radicals” was very interesting, even though it was harder to read. THAT was like having an open window on the mind of liberals, like reading their game plan.
Point is, this twit has never listened to Rush Limbaugh. He may say otherwise, but it is clear as day, he hasn’t. He is guilty of what he is whining about people doing to him: passing judgement on him without knowing who he is.
Got some news for you, Mr. Brownstained Chin: We know just what bucket you fall into.
“No way I am going to his website to read his whines.”
“He is guilty of what he is whining about people doing to him: passing judgement on him without knowing who he is.”
I leave those comments to Mr. Brownstained Chin and the Ron Paul supporters to figure out.
Another run-of-the-mill liberal journalist.
I think the article you posted is quite enough. I am not giving the twit more hits.
Yes. Liberals always feel the need to deny they are liberals when making a point to a wider audience. They don’t have the stones to stand up and say what they really stand for.
This pathetic whine from this guy is almost funny, he goes to such lengths to talk about what a conservative he is.
Yep. A real Capital "C" Conservative there. Sounds to me like he has a lot in common with Barack Obama and his ilk who just want to re-write the Constitution.
I'm sure this piece of crap knows better than Madison, Jefferson et al.
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