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If History repeats itself, Obama is toast (Vanity)
June 12, 2012 | pistolpackinpapa

Posted on 06/12/2012 6:40:05 PM PDT by pistolpackinpapa

A guy was on Rush today and gave a statistic that even Rush was not aware of. While reading The World Almanac, about the 1956 American Presidential Election, he learned that 15 Presidents have been reelected and each one received MORE votes the second time around (when they ran for reelection) than they did in their first Election. That is a historical fact.

Now, we read, and/or hear, everyday that Obama is losing much of his 2008 base. The pundits are saying that the 2012 Race is going to be very, very close. Obama's poll numbers are abysmal. If the poll numbers hold up, and History does, in fact, repeat itself, Obama is toast.


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I read two posts here on FR, just tonight, about BHO losing many of his base that he had in '08. I truly think Prez dude can, and will, lose this thing.
1 posted on 06/12/2012 6:40:16 PM PDT by pistolpackinpapa
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To: pistolpackinpapa

After careful consideration I have come to one conclusion: The Democrats will release the Toricelli sequel on or about August 15th, 2012.
They are going to see the writing on the political wall just as they did in New Jersey before ousting Ethical Bob and resurrecting “breakfast at Bernie’s” Lautenberg.
The winds of ineligibility are growing stronger every day as the Sheriff Arpaio’s posse closes in. The hearing in Florida court Monday will be instructive and potentially very damaging for the Fraud-in-chief.
Bill and Hillary are likely working overtime behind the scenes in not so subtle ways to implode the Obama re-election effort and when the house of cards starts to tumble, Hillary will ride in on her magic broom and claim her rightful place in History.
There will be no second term for Obama, there will probably be no second nomination for Obama; the only question remains will he get the Federal Term in Leavenworth he really deserves? I doubt the powers-that-be would allow this as they perpetuated this fraud on the constitution and American populace and to charge him, try him, and convict him of high treason would expose their complicity.

PRESIDENT MITT ROMNEY - that is sounding better and better every day!


2 posted on 06/12/2012 6:52:24 PM PDT by Froggie
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To: Froggie

I would bet you’re right. Good post.


3 posted on 06/12/2012 7:00:28 PM PDT by Harley (Will Rogers never met Harry Reid.)
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To: pistolpackinpapa

IIRC several states have passed laws to award their electoral college votes to the candidate that gets the most votes nationwide, California being among them. Now if it is close and Obummer has fewer votes but o, it will absolutely KILL the liberal idiots in California to be forced by their very own laws to award their EC votes to Romney.


4 posted on 06/12/2012 7:04:46 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Froggie

Good post, Froggie.

I think the Powers that Be will make an offer to Obama that he can’t refuse.


5 posted on 06/12/2012 7:05:41 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Froggie

Such a scenario, if it occurs, will be something to behold. The gnashing and rending from Obama Zombies alone should be quite a show! :)


6 posted on 06/12/2012 7:08:56 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: pistolpackinpapa

It’s kinda’ scary watching this guy’s train wreck of a presidency. He gets a very creepy look in his eyes lately when he’s spouting his bull$hit. I hate to think of the destruction this idiot’s likely to do to the country before he’s gone.


7 posted on 06/12/2012 7:09:26 PM PDT by Bullish
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To: Froggie

If the economic reports continue to be as devastating as last week’s joblessness numbers and this week’s loss of family income numbers, with the election shellacking in Wisconsin, the Dems are in crisis mode.

I have posted for a long time that Obama may be forced out, feigned illness or some such excuse. The internal polling is probably showing that Obama may lose as bad or worse than McCain lost in 2008.


8 posted on 06/12/2012 7:11:37 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Bullish

It’s kinda’ scary watching this guy’s train wreck of a presidency. He gets a very creepy look in his eyes lately when he’s spouting his bull$hit. I hate to think of the destruction this idiot’s likely to do to the country before he’s gone.


Right on.

If he loses in Nov., he’ll wreck havoc until jan. 20.

If he wins in Nov., .....he’ll get even.

He’s a demon.


9 posted on 06/12/2012 7:13:11 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: unkus

Maybe an offer like..

We’ll make sure you don’t go to the slammer for the rest of your life if you step aside. If you refuse, we’ll go find a horse’s head to convince you.


10 posted on 06/12/2012 7:15:28 PM PDT by berdie
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To: berdie

Yep.

Most high up dems can’t stand him.

The way he insulted G W Bush at the portrait unveiling didn’t help. Bush 41 is the man who can order the Horse Head.


11 posted on 06/12/2012 7:20:10 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: pistolpackinpapa

If Obama is taken out the dimoKKRATS can forget the Black vote. Can Hillary be elected with out them?


12 posted on 06/12/2012 7:26:24 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: pistolpackinpapa

Romney will win North Carolina, Florida, Ohio, Indiana, Virginia. However, he will have a hard time and probably won’t win Pennsylvania who has not gone Republican President since 1988 and with Romney....very doubtful. Santorum would have made Pennsylvania in play. Colorado is the state that Romney MUST win to win the election. If he does not win Colorado, he loses the election. Iowa will go Obama. This is my prediction.....If Romney could spend from now until the election in Colorado and wins it, he wins the election.


13 posted on 06/12/2012 7:40:59 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: TomGuy

I have told many people I think obama will be forced to step down. Seeing how fast this leak scandal is moving w bi partisan agreement, seems like the fix is in to get rid of him.


14 posted on 06/12/2012 7:43:39 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: pistolpackinpapa

It’s not just that BO is loosing base, My neighbor and their children are non-political/never vote. They have all registered to vote against O. He’s motivating msny to vote,.....against him.


15 posted on 06/12/2012 7:45:12 PM PDT by hoosiermama ( Obama: " born in Kenya.".. he's lying now or then?)
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To: Parley Baer

The rats play the game better than that. They will stage it where 0 is the victim of a mean, nasty Republican plot.


16 posted on 06/12/2012 7:53:06 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Blood of Tyrants

California law to award their electoral college votes to the candidate that gets the most votes nationwide is only valid after enough states pass similar laws that there total combined electoral votes would be enough to elect a president.

IIRC most if not all the law were written with similar clauses. But this election might make them reconsider this law.


17 posted on 06/12/2012 7:58:58 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (` - ' . ?)
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To: Froggie

There will be no second term for Obama, there will probably be no second nomination for Obama;
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I doubt that will happen, but the very thought of it makes me happy; very, very happy.


18 posted on 06/12/2012 8:02:23 PM PDT by pistolpackinpapa (Why is it that you never see any Obama bumper stickers on cars going to work in the mornings?)
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To: Froggie

There will be no second term for Obama, there will probably be no second nomination for Obama;
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I doubt that will happen, but the very thought of it makes me happy; very, very happy.


19 posted on 06/12/2012 8:02:45 PM PDT by pistolpackinpapa (Why is it that you never see any Obama bumper stickers on cars going to work in the mornings?)
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To: napscoordinator; All

Well, we know that PA will go for Obama. They’ve become as dependable for the Dems as CA and NY. But, I predict Iowa goes Republican this year and I think VA is more important than Colorado. But, honestly, I think the GOP takes CO and VA. And, may I add, I predict the GOP will win Michigan and Wisconsin.

DISCLAIMER: All of the above is dependent upon there being NO unforeseen national crisis, terrorist attack or America’s entrance into another war somewhere on the globe.


20 posted on 06/12/2012 8:10:10 PM PDT by pistolpackinpapa (Why is it that you never see any Obama bumper stickers on cars going to work in the mornings?)
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To: pistolpackinpapa

Wisconsin will go for Romney - go ahead and place my bet on it!


21 posted on 06/12/2012 8:11:44 PM PDT by princess leah
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To: pistolpackinpapa

Wisconsin will go for Romney - go ahead and place my bet on it!


22 posted on 06/12/2012 8:12:02 PM PDT by princess leah
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To: pistolpackinpapa

If all those predictions are right then Romney will win. I definitely have Romney winning Virginia, but I am seriously not sure with Colorado...it was not very close last election. I am not sure about Iowa either....they flip back and forth all the time. Michigan has not gone GOP in decades upon decades. Wisconsin would be a surprise to me....I know that they picked Walker again but even Democrats found that recall ridiculous.


23 posted on 06/12/2012 8:14:57 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Froggie
Agreed, we are being set up big time.

Whether it's a Hillary run, the zombie apocalypse, an even more likely bio-attack or some drummed up economic crisis, there's no way the socialists will give up power willingly.

If you haven't prepared, at least buy a shovel. You'll need it by December.

24 posted on 06/12/2012 8:23:39 PM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: Froggie
"... After careful consideration I have come to one conclusion: The Democrats will release the Toricelli sequel on or about August 15th, 2012."

You carefully considered the way the wind is blowing Democrat political fortunes around and you came up with the DNC replacing a sitting President Obama?

Kindly put me down as enormously skeptical of your sincerity on this point, friend.

25 posted on 06/12/2012 8:23:59 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi)
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To: napscoordinator

I lived in MI for 10 years and I have tons of friends there. They tell me that no one is voting for Obama except a few “I was born and will die” Democrats and those in the Black Community. But, not as many Blacks as last time. They assure me, Michigan will go Republican this year.


26 posted on 06/12/2012 8:26:51 PM PDT by pistolpackinpapa (Why is it that you never see any Obama bumper stickers on cars going to work in the mornings?)
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To: Froggie

obama isnt just going to roll over . why should he? and he’ll do what with the black vote? just give it to hillary? obama is a more ‘scorched earth’ kind of fellow


27 posted on 06/12/2012 8:30:31 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (i a m t h e m a r g i n o f e r r e r)
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To: The KG9 Kid; Froggie

Hey KG9 Kid, it could friggin’ happen. This guy has proven to be the worst President in modern history and even people in his own Party are starting to doubt his ability to win. (Sean Hannity / FOX TV: June 12, 2012) Couple that with the Fast and Furious scandal and the very, very serious “Leak-gate” we’ve got going on now....... Some Senate and House members said today, THIS IS WORSE THAN WATERGATE and the Pubbie powers that be, got Nixon (a sitting President) to step down over something that was silly compared to this scandal.

Prez dude is in real trouble, and to keep the White House, don’t you think for one minute they wouldn’t dump him and run her thighness. I’m telling you, Froggie is right. IT COULD HAPPEN!!!


28 posted on 06/12/2012 8:36:59 PM PDT by pistolpackinpapa (Why is it that you never see any Obama bumper stickers on cars going to work in the mornings?)
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To: Bullish

IMHO, after nobama loses, the time between Nov 7, 2012 and Jan 21, 2013 will be a major test for our country.

nobama and his minions will try and do as much damage as possible during that time.


29 posted on 06/12/2012 8:38:49 PM PDT by upchuck (Need is not an acceptable lifestyle choice; dependent is not a career. ~ Dr. Tim Nerenz)
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To: pistolpackinpapa

Two words: October Surprise.


30 posted on 06/12/2012 8:43:33 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: Froggie

I think Hill would be crazy to pick up he nomination at this point. If there is as much animosity as I’d like to think there is, it will bleed to all other dems. Besides that, it will take her a solid four years or more to coil herself for a strike. A loss this year would reduce her to Algorian status. I predict Bill and Hill will let this one ride.

Maybe the dems will give ‘bam the boot. I could see them arranging a nice padded cell/office for him at the UN— it would assuage his ego with a ponderous title but stash someplace where he could do no further harm. The Clinton faction, I expect, would nominate some non-starter to fill the hole for the election so Bill/Hill could start the groundwork.

I expect Hill will climb on the stump around the middle of Romney’s 2nd year, and that will begin her campaign. Hill plays the long game; note how she’s endured her virtually meaningless role as Sec of State.


31 posted on 06/12/2012 8:43:49 PM PDT by tsomer
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To: OrangeHoof

Don’t underestimate Romney. He, and his staff, are tough, hardball campaigners. He might have an October Surprise himself. Don’t forget: The Mormon Church is the biggest Genealogy group in America. Betcha anything they know where Obama was born and can document it and will release it via a third party in September or October.


32 posted on 06/12/2012 8:49:16 PM PDT by pistolpackinpapa (Why is it that you never see any Obama bumper stickers on cars going to work in the mornings?)
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To: pistolpackinpapa

Not sure a Pennsylvania. Fast Eddie has not been as compliant an obamabot as they would have liked.

‘bam’s troubles started when he got rid of the dancing master and Daley and gave the keys to ValJar. She’s PO’d all of the major players, or at least those with a shred of competency.

Come to think of it, I think they’ve even PO’d Soros.

They’ll never admit this, of course, but the love quotient seems to be running low.


33 posted on 06/12/2012 8:51:59 PM PDT by tsomer
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To: napscoordinator

Lots of Mormons in Colorado. Being Mormon doesn’t make one certain to vote for Romney but it certainly helps even the odds.


34 posted on 06/12/2012 8:57:28 PM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: tsomer

Could be.

But Hill will be close to 70 in 2016. Not a good thing.


35 posted on 06/12/2012 8:57:59 PM PDT by berdie
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To: OrangeHoof
Two words: October Surprise.

Hillary running instead of obama?

36 posted on 06/12/2012 8:58:36 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: zerosix

I’m not LDS and I’m voting Rominy because the alternative is too horrible to sign on for. Romney may be a nightmare for us conservatives, but little barry bastard commie is the scare so bad you’re afraid to go back to sleep (I srtole that from a wise freeper; I forget who).


37 posted on 06/12/2012 9:03:10 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: zerosix

Lots of Mormons in Colorado. Being Mormon doesn’t make one certain to vote for Romney but it certainly helps even the odds.
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I forgot about that, but, you’re right. What percentage of CO do you think is Mormon?


38 posted on 06/12/2012 9:07:05 PM PDT by pistolpackinpapa (Why is it that you never see any Obama bumper stickers on cars going to work in the mornings?)
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To: napscoordinator

Santorum would not have put PA in play, the guy is HATED here for good reason, he wasn’t sent packing by nearly 20 points for no reason folks.

Now, with that said, Romney will likely win PA.. in fact Romney will likely win MI as well.

There are only 2 rust belt states that Obama will carry.. MN and IL.

Obama has utterly alienated and disenfranchised the blue dog democrats that populate the rust belt. Now they aren’t going to all abandon him, but this is a HUGE voting block, and many of them have been utterly betrayed by the democrats and Obama and will not be voting for him in the fall.

The Blue Dogs don’t show up and vote hard for a Democrat, the democrat can’t win any state in the rust belt or south, and Obama and his administration have done everything in their power to spit in the face of this group.

There is no calculus where Obama wins re-election. In fact, I don’t see any way he gets over 42-43% of the national vote at best.


39 posted on 06/12/2012 9:14:39 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Caipirabob

If Obama’s numbers are bad I seriously expect some type of Wag the Dog scenario. It will probably be some sort of air-strike against Iran or North Korea. The Marxist’s minions are imaginative; it could be some other target that will have more rah-rah effect and less long term implications... some sort of rescue mission. Bring home the old shoe.


40 posted on 06/12/2012 9:22:12 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: unkus

Have you been to Obama’s web site? I held my nose to take a peek!

It’s pathetic!

No substance, bashes Romney, has campaign trail pics with two people present, and page, after page, after page, of Obama crap for sale, covering every PC constituency you can imagine! Jews, gays, latinos, women, it’s like Prego, it’s in there!

But the real slap in the face comes from his, “Dinner with Obama” page, where you must meet certain ELIGIBILITY requirements to have that dinner with Lil’ o.

Words escape me!

It was the web site of a colossal loser.


41 posted on 06/12/2012 9:26:02 PM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: pistolpackinpapa

Nobody loves him anymore, and that’s a fact. Of course, we never did, but many of those who voted for him in 2008 have lost their confidence, trust, inspiration, true affinity, identification with, and enthusiasm for the man.

In short, all of the ingredients that propelled him into office, are now greatly reduced, or missing altogether in many of his constituents. It’s beginning to be clear to me that a greater number of people simply took a shot, and gave him a chance, than I’d previously imagined. Those people are now chagrined, and have lost the faith.

Which leaves him with only the lowest common denominator among his former supporters, and those who feel that they have no other alternative, but to vote for him again.

That, in turn, leads me to wonder if a good number of Democrats might now be looking for some way to lodge a protest vote against him, in the same way that many Republicans will be voting for someone other than Romney.

That might well happen, but I suspect that many disillusioned Democrats will simply sit out the election, and let their neighbors do the voting for them. That’s not going to happen on the right, for obvious reasons.


42 posted on 06/12/2012 9:26:40 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Bshaw

No, I haven’t been there but will check it out with a barf bag handy.

OTOH, your description is perfect so I might pass. LOL


43 posted on 06/12/2012 9:37:06 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: napscoordinator

” Iowa will go Obama”

I am incredulous that there re that many morons in IOWA. (NY I understand)...


44 posted on 06/12/2012 9:42:46 PM PDT by Yehuda (http://jewpoint.blogspot.com)
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To: Windflier

Excellent analysis.

I think a large number of Dims will vote romney because their pockets/purses are empty.


45 posted on 06/12/2012 9:43:00 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
IIRC several states have passed laws to award their electoral college votes to the candidate that gets the most votes nationwide, California being among them. Now if it is close and Obummer has fewer votes but o, it will absolutely KILL the liberal idiots in California to be forced by their very own laws to award their EC votes to Romney.

Hmm.....I'm trying to remember how that thing is exactly worded.

I may be wrong, but I seem to remember something about all of the delegates going to the winner of each party's primary. In other words, the winner of the Dem primary gets all of the delegates in that primary. The losing Dem candidates can't hold onto their delegates. They have to give them up to the winner.

Naturally, the same holds for winners and losers of the Republican party primary.

Correct me if I'm wrong on this.

46 posted on 06/12/2012 9:50:07 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: HamiltonJay

Romney will likely win PA.. in fact Romney will likely win MI as well.
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I predicted on another thread earlier that Romney WILL carry Michigan. I also believe that he WILL carry Wisconsin. But, PA? Nah; not buying it. Every year we get teased with the “possibility that PA will go Republican in the Presidential Race”. This year, I’m not buying it; not getting my hopes up. It ain’t happening; unless there is a major flood in Philadelphia and the ‘burbs on Nov. 6.


47 posted on 06/12/2012 9:52:56 PM PDT by pistolpackinpapa (Why is it that you never see any Obama bumper stickers on cars going to work in the mornings?)
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To: TomGuy
I have posted for a long time that Obama may be forced out, feigned illness or some such excuse. The internal polling is probably showing that Obama may lose as bad or worse than McCain lost in 2008.

I remember posting the very same thoughts (at great length) two years ago. I'd sort of given it a rest for a good while, but I'm starting to consider that it really might come to that.

This guy is a complete disaster for the Dems. He's pulling their whole party down, and it's simply astonishing to me that the old bulls haven't already given him the heave-ho.

48 posted on 06/12/2012 9:54:31 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

I think the old bulls, Clintons and others, are giving it a try.

What I find curious and don’t understand...is who are O’s “real advisors?

He seems to be doing some goofy things.


49 posted on 06/12/2012 10:03:37 PM PDT by berdie
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To: pistolpackinpapa

Obama toast? Don’t count on it.
Remember ‘08?
Remember the MSM is still lying and covering up for him.
We’ll see the same illegal overseas and other contributions
We’ll see voter fraud ten times worse
We’ll see the race card pulled as never before
(Romney is a sitting duck with his religion’s history of discrimination against blacks)
Don’t think the rats will give up their Communist coup without a struggle.
This will be the dirtiest fight in election history

We’ll be lucky if we EVER get rid of the Marxist/Muslim sob.


50 posted on 06/12/2012 10:12:38 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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