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Secrets Revealed (More evidence arises that Obama's birth certificate is a forgery)
American Thinker ^ | 06/15/2012 | Nick Chase

Posted on 06/15/2012 4:38:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

In my first American Thinker article on the Obama long-form birth-certificate forgery, "Oblivious to the Obvious," published on April 10, I wrote: We start with the known facts: that (1) the "birth certificate" is fake, and (2) the president has said it's his birth certificate. It is up to researchers to work backward from the known facts to establish why the president was unable or unwilling to release a genuine one.

On May 22, the Hawaii Department of Health sent a "Verification of Birth" for Barack Obama to Ken Bennett, Arizona secretary of state (shown in Figure VB), with sufficient information to allow the president's name to be placed on the November 2012 ballot in Arizona. It provided enough additional information, I thought, to allow me to hone in on what might be on the genuine birth certificate that the public is not allowed to see.

In addition to confirming not-previously-verified information for specific categories, the Verification of Birth also carries the following statement:

"Additionally, I [Alvin T. Onaka] verify that the information in the copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for Mr. Obama that you attached with your [Bennett's] request [meaning, the White-House-issued birth-certificate forgery, as this would have been the only Obama 'Certificate of Live Birth' available to Mr. Bennett] matches the original record in our files."

Note that this carefully worded statement does not say that the Bennett copy is identical in appearance to the original record. Nor does it even say that the information in the Bennett copy is identical to the information on the original record. It says "information ... matches." This could mean matching in a generic sense, where the meaning is the same but the wording is not.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama

CLICK ABOVE LINK FOR THE ANALYSIS


1 posted on 06/15/2012 4:38:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

We all know that Obama should never have been POTUS for more than one reason and that he was put there not by the voters but by people like Soros.


2 posted on 06/15/2012 5:10:15 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

Yup


3 posted on 06/15/2012 5:35:30 AM PDT by khelus
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To: freekitty

When you see all the legalize and obfuscation (obamafuscation) that the Hawaiian officials put in every commentary they sign about Obama’s birth, you have no choice but to either lie to yourself or admit that he doesn’t have a real birth record in Hawaii and may not have been born in the U.S.


4 posted on 06/15/2012 6:57:15 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Agree


5 posted on 06/15/2012 7:00:01 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

Soros is just one of many that told Hillary she was not going to be the President. There is a large network of people. It is about time we stop just saying it is just one person behind this crap. It is so much bigger than just one man named Soros.


6 posted on 06/15/2012 7:02:36 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Romney - not Obama - not a Conservative - not a real Christian)
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To: FreeAtlanta

This guy’s conclusion is... that Zero’s mother signed her name “Stanley Ann Dunham”.... NOT as, “Obama”.

That would be very embarassing to the Rock Star. It wouldn’t prove they weren’t married.. but, it would prove that she wasn’t advertising it to anyone..


7 posted on 06/15/2012 7:05:36 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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To: bmwcyle

I know that.


8 posted on 06/15/2012 7:38:29 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: bmwcyle

I believe I said people like Soros.


9 posted on 06/15/2012 7:39:18 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hawaii has fake documents in their files, If they have an exact copy of the fake Obama posted. Hawaii should be ashamed to participate in such a poorly conducted and obvious fraud. It’s lazy, poorly done, half-witted, like everything else about Obama, who is nothing more than an embarrassing, Affirmative Action cliché. The State of Hawaii should not stoop to the level of our unprincipled, mainstream media.


10 posted on 06/15/2012 7:45:33 AM PDT by pallis
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To: SomeCallMeTim

“That would be very embarassing to the Rock Star. It wouldn’t prove they weren’t married.. but, it would prove that she wasn’t advertising it to anyone..” - SCMT

But NOT embarassing enough to get him to submit a forgery to the American people. So, what else is different?

Could the document number be that of Virginia Sunahara?


11 posted on 06/15/2012 7:50:43 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: SomeCallMeTim
One embarrassing and very illegal aspect of Barry's record has been his frequent name changing. If adopted by Soetoro, did he ever have his name legally changed to Obama?

The bottom line is he is one seriously screwed up individual with a screwed up life story and it shows how screwed up we have become as a nation that we elected the sorry screwed up conman and his mooching wife.

12 posted on 06/15/2012 7:53:02 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: FreeAtlanta
The bottom line is he is one seriously screwed up individual with a screwed up life story and it shows how screwed up we have become as a nation that we elected the sorry screwed up conman and his mooching wife.

I almost typed "LOL"... but, I'm not laughing. Rather, I'm "CI"... crying inside. It's so true.

13 posted on 06/15/2012 8:17:14 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

This guy’s conclusion is... that Zero’s mother signed her name “Stanley Ann Dunham”.... NOT as, “Obama”.

____________________________________________________

That would match the handwritten numerals on the image of the LFBC.

The portions for the father information have handwritten 9’s. That means - ‘not stated’ in the formal statistical recordings of the time.

The background of the LFBC may be authentic. They just for got to change the statistical recordings that are written in by hand for easier data entry - likely via IBM punch card.


14 posted on 06/15/2012 8:33:19 AM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: SomeCallMeTim

This guy’s conclusion is... that Zero’s mother signed her name “Stanley Ann Dunham”.... NOT as, “Obama”.

That would be very embarassing to the Rock Star. It wouldn’t prove they weren’t married.. but, it would prove that she wasn’t advertising it to anyone..

That would explain a lot of it. I'm not sure that it would answer all the questions. Personally I believe the grandmother who said she saw him born in Kenya.

i don't see how anyone who has looked at this in any detail could come away from it not thinking there was something being hidden.


15 posted on 06/15/2012 8:34:31 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The most important piece of information is missing from that document:

the Date of Birth.

16 posted on 06/15/2012 8:40:20 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: FreeAtlanta
... it shows how screwed up we have become as a nation that we elected the sorry screwed up conman and his mooching wife.

Are you talking about Bill and Hillary Clinton or Barry and Mooch? That describes both.

17 posted on 06/15/2012 9:24:32 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: pallis
Hawaii has fake documents in their files, If they have an exact copy of the fake Obama posted.

There are many Hawaiian government officials who are in serious legal jeopardy. All on the Obama pardon list no doubt.

18 posted on 06/15/2012 9:48:56 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: SeekAndFind

Repeal Hawaii’s statehood and backdate it.


19 posted on 06/15/2012 10:48:08 AM PDT by DonkeyBonker
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To: bmwcyle
It is so much bigger than just one man named Soros.

No, it really is just one guy, but most here don't believe he exists. He does have a lot of helpers, some knowingly, some foolishly.

20 posted on 06/15/2012 11:24:26 AM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period.)
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To: itsahoot

Is it ... SATAN?


21 posted on 06/15/2012 11:37:17 AM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: SeekAndFind; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; ...


Note that this carefully worded statement does not say that the Bennett copy is identical in appearance to the original record. Nor does it even say that the information in the Bennett copy is identical to the information on the original record. It says "information ... matches." This could mean matching in a generic sense, where the meaning is the same but the wording is not. Or it could indicate that the information on the Bennett copy (the forgery) is a subset of what's on the original record (the forgery has less data), or a superset (the forgery has additional data).

When somebody signs and dates a legal document, customarily a single pen is used throughout -- not three different pens.

What if I am wrong about this? In that case, there are two possibilities: (1) there is no substantive difference in information between the forgery and the real birth certificate in the Hawaii Department of Health file cabinet, and the White House released the forgery to "screw with the birthers"; or (2) the scam is a wider conspiracy involving more people than just employees of the White House -- likely including compromised Hawaii Department of Health employees -- and we can't be at all sure what really is on the genuine birth certificate.

22 posted on 06/15/2012 11:52:52 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: JohnnyP

Was your answer rhetorical, condescending or confirming? It is in any case, the correct answer.


23 posted on 06/16/2012 2:01:46 AM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period.)
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To: SeekAndFind

obumpa


24 posted on 06/16/2012 2:08:09 AM PDT by Dajjal ("I'm not concerned about the very poor." -- severely conservative Mitt 'Etch-A-Sketch' Rmoney)
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To: Brown Deer

INVESTIGATOR: FOREIGNERS BOUGHT HAWAII BIRTH CERTIFICATES

‘A Mafia operation was run in the early infancy of the state’

http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/investigator-foreigners-bought-hawaii-birth-certificates/


25 posted on 06/16/2012 5:45:01 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: itsahoot

It boggles my mind every day.


26 posted on 06/16/2012 2:48:46 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: Brown Deer

The stink just won’t wash off even with the strongest soap.


27 posted on 06/16/2012 3:42:30 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sorry, but I find the author’s quite well-researched conclusion to be absurd.

Obama and his handlers have spent millions to keep whatever is in Hawaii’s files secret.

Hushing up an out-of-wedlock birth simply isn’t worth that kind of money.

He as much as admitted they were never married in the book Ayres ghostwrote for him. And remember Michelle’s comment that Stanley Ann was “very single when she had him”?

Suppose an authentic birth certificate were to surface that said what his author proposes. It would not matter in this age of loose morals when 40% of births in the country are out-of-wedlock, and most among those most likely to vote for him.

The author also accepts as fact some things that are most assuredly open to question, like the name of the birthing hospital(if he was actually born in a hospital).

Nope. Not buying it.


28 posted on 06/16/2012 6:53:16 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: SeekAndFind

Butterdezillion has verified in a round about way that his records have been amended. I suspect two name changes. Adoption to Soetoro to become Indonesian, then back to Obama. He is hiding the legal adoption and loss of citizenship.


29 posted on 06/17/2012 3:22:56 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Triple
Yes. I would like to see an enterprising reporter ask Hawaii why the Sunuhara family was denied access to their own sister's birth certificate. There is no Hawaii law that justifies that.

-PJ

30 posted on 06/17/2012 3:57:49 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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