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United Nations To Convene Month Long Conference For International Gun Control Treaty In July
secondamendmentfreedom.blogspot.com ^ | 06/15/2012

Posted on 06/15/2012 10:40:36 AM PDT by Sasparilla

As Spain deals with a bailout to "save" the economy and the country, and while the country is engaged in its worst financial crisis in recent memory, the Spanish Parliament took time this week to push for adoption of the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty. This is the Treaty that will infringe on the US Constitution, the Second Amendment, and your right to self defense. The United Nations and specially invited anti firearms rights groups who want to eliminate our firearms freedoms will be convening at the UN July 2nd through the 27th to draft a Treaty to accomplish the goal of regulating firearms and accessories, and ultimately the disarming all of America.

Spain agreed with the drafters of the Treaty, with input from various international and US gun control groups, who want the “Urgent and essential” Treaty to; "a) Include a golden rule that prohibits the authorization of arms transfers where there is a substantial risk that used to commit or facilitate the commission-¬ - serious violations of international human rights and international humanitarian law. b) Allow a comprehensive coverage that includes controls on weapons, ammunition and related material and on "ALL" (emphasis added) transfers. c) explicit regulation of solid systems of licensing, transparency and reporting.” 1

International gun ban groups are telling UN member states, including the United States, in unambiguous terms, to adopt this Treaty and clamp controls and international regulations on your firearms and ammunition, and all transfers, including purchase and sale of guns and ammunition. By the wording of the treaty, inclusion of the “and related material” provision would include parts, accessories, scopes, stocks, magazines, and the like. The regulations are limited only by the bureaucratic enforcers...

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012; banglist; corruption; fraud; guncontrol; un; youwillnotdisarmus

1 posted on 06/15/2012 10:40:49 AM PDT by Sasparilla
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To: Sasparilla

—This is the Treaty that will infringe on the US Constitution, the Second Amendment, and your right to self defense.—

Gee. Wonder if it will get past the house or, if it does, past the SCOTUS.


2 posted on 06/15/2012 10:44:24 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Sasparilla

Good luck with that. The UN couldn’t find its @$$ with both hands.


3 posted on 06/15/2012 10:48:32 AM PDT by tgusa (gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .......)
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To: Sasparilla

I have a feeling that if the US adopts this measure it will be the start of a new American Civil War.,

Didn’t Thomas Jefferson write that a revolution is needed every 20 years or so? We are 200 years overdue, but the next one will be a doozy.


4 posted on 06/15/2012 11:01:07 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Sasparilla

Good thing the oresident can’t unilaterally ratify treaties. good luck getting two thirds of the senate to ratify this garbage. Oh, you better hope it doesn’t require ANY funding because then the house can vote to kill it by defunding it. F T UN.


5 posted on 06/15/2012 11:01:17 AM PDT by RC one (this space intentionally left blank)
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To: Sasparilla
If this wasn't so serious...it'd be funny.

Let them try.

6 posted on 06/15/2012 11:07:04 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (My dog, yes. My wife, maybe. My gun....NEVER!)
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To: Sasparilla

It needs 67 votes in the senate only. If all the dems and a few rinos go for it,then we have a serious problem.


7 posted on 06/15/2012 11:08:27 AM PDT by RonboTex (Get off my lawn!!!!!!!!)
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To: Sasparilla

It needs 67 votes in the senate only. If all the dems and a few rinos go for it,then we have a serious problem.


8 posted on 06/15/2012 11:09:38 AM PDT by RonboTex (Get off my lawn!!!!!!!!)
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To: Sasparilla

Good thing the President can’t act unilaterally and sign this treaty without first going through congress. </sarc>


9 posted on 06/15/2012 11:10:17 AM PDT by red-dawg
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To: cuban leaf
.Gee. Wonder if it will get past the house Senate or, if it does, past the SCOTUS.

If the Senate did ratify it I don't think SCOTUS has a roll.

10 posted on 06/15/2012 11:13:43 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Venturer
I have a feeling that if the US adopts this measure it will be the start of a new American Civil War.

I don't

What happened after farming laws were passed? What happened are firearms laws were passed? What happened during the Great Depression?

11 posted on 06/15/2012 11:20:23 AM PDT by wastedyears ("God? I didn't know he was signed onto the system.")
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To: MileHi

—If the Senate did ratify it I don’t think SCOTUS has a roll.—

I think you meant donut. ;-)

But...I’m no expert, but the senate will probably be overturned regarding obamacare, can a citizen not sue to declare the ratification of a treaty unconstitutional?


12 posted on 06/15/2012 11:38:37 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: wastedyears

Sorry, but taking my guns is a go to moment. I’m a Texas Mom, this would be the straw that breaks the camel’s back. Not just for my family either. If Barack Kardasian and his cronies do this, I can see a serious (for the first time) talk of sucession.


13 posted on 06/15/2012 11:46:12 AM PDT by 1scrappymom
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To: wastedyears

—What happened during the Great Depression?—

What ended the the great depression?


14 posted on 06/15/2012 11:50:40 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf
But...I’m no expert,

Ha! I don't even play one on FR

....can a citizen not sue to declare the ratification of a treaty unconstitutional?

No, the Constitution provides for treaties. It doesn't require them to be well thought out. I don't know that SCOTUS could declare a treaty unconstitutional.

I'd be happy to be wrong about that.

15 posted on 06/15/2012 11:53:54 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: cuban leaf

Our boys were in the wrong theater.


16 posted on 06/15/2012 12:05:10 PM PDT by wastedyears ("God? I didn't know he was signed onto the system.")
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To: RonboTex

If all the dems and a few rinos go for it,then we have a serious problem.


NO Sir! They are the ones who will have a serious problem. Most serious.

17 posted on 06/15/2012 12:27:49 PM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: cuban leaf

The real test is getting past my front door.....


18 posted on 06/15/2012 12:33:09 PM PDT by G Larry
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To: MileHi

Treaty ratification requires two thirds of the Senate.

That would be 67 votes....I don’t see that happening.


19 posted on 06/15/2012 12:35:12 PM PDT by G Larry
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To: G Larry
....I don’t see that happening.

I don't either. If it did, could SCOTUS judge its Constitutionality?

20 posted on 06/15/2012 12:42:26 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: MileHi
I don't know that SCOTUS could declare a treaty unconstitutional.

Maybe not the treaty itself, but treaties require implementing legisliation to give the provisions the force of law. Those laws and regulations can be unconstitutional.

21 posted on 06/15/2012 1:06:25 PM PDT by Spirochete (Sic transit gloria mundi)
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To: MileHi

—I don’t know that SCOTUS could declare a treaty unconstitutional.—

Maybe just its enforcement? After all, if a treaty violates the first amendment rights of US citizens on US soil, I would assume it is pretty much unenforceable. I would certainly hope so!


22 posted on 06/15/2012 1:15:01 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: MileHi

—I don’t know that SCOTUS could declare a treaty unconstitutional.—

Yes, I’m thinking of the concept of unenforceable clauses in contracts. I cannot obligate myself, contractually, to give up one of my kids if I can’t make the payments, regardless of what it says in the contract.


23 posted on 06/15/2012 1:16:23 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Sasparilla
Gun Control Converging on UN


24 posted on 06/15/2012 1:22:12 PM PDT by nonsporting
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To: Sasparilla
Click on image to download PDF file of poster.

25 posted on 06/15/2012 1:23:48 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: G Larry
Treaty ratification requires two thirds of the Senate.

Immigration amnesty used to require the Senate, too.

26 posted on 06/15/2012 1:26:43 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Spirochete; cuban leaf
Sounds right about implementation.

I don't see the votes in the Senate in any case.

27 posted on 06/15/2012 1:27:12 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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