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Michelle Obama's ancestors traced to Ulster slave owner
The Belfast Telegraph ^ | June 18, 2012 | Paul Melia

Posted on 06/18/2012 2:16:58 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

US First Lady Michelle Obama's ancestry can be traced to a slave owner from what is now Northern Ireland, who emigrated to America in the 1700s.

A new book claims that Andrew Shields, who fought against the British in the American War of Independence, was Mrs Obama's great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather and his family were slave owners.

Her great-great-great-grandmother Melvinia was a slave who had children by Charles Shields, grandson of Andrew Shields. One of those children, Dolphus Shields, born in 1859, was Michelle Obama's direct ancestor.

The claims are made in American Tapestry: The Story of the Black, White and Multiracial Ancestors of Michelle Obama by Rachel L Swarns, a writer with the New York Times.

DNA technology was used to prove the link, and among the genealogists who helped trace Mrs Obama's roots was Megan Smolenyak, who discovered that President Obama's roots went back to Moneygall in Co Offaly.

While the book does not identify where the Shields came from, it was most likely Ulster as the family was Protestant and there was considerable Scots-Irish emigration to the American South at the time.

It traces dozens of white relatives of Michelle Obama, none of whom knew of their connection through slavery to the first lady. Most were shocked to learn the connection and hoped that the Shields-Melvinia relationship was not one of rape, but love.

“You really don't like to face this kind of thing,” said Joan Tribble, whose ancestors owned the first lady's relative.

“To me, it's an obvious love story,” another descendant, Aliene Shields, added, pointing out they had several children together.

Ms Smolenyak began the project just before Mr Obama was elected president and she said she hoped her discovery would please the first lady.


TOPICS: History; Politics; Science
KEYWORDS: genealogy; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; ireland; michelleobama; obama; theloveconnection
So when slavery reparations are handed out, does she pay herself?
1 posted on 06/18/2012 2:17:23 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA; NFHale; Perdogg; sickoflibs; AuH2ORepublican; ...

Nice.

The children were given the guy’s name so that tells me he cared for them.


2 posted on 06/18/2012 2:34:00 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
While the book does not identify where the Shields came from

Kinda like Hussein.

3 posted on 06/18/2012 2:43:22 AM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Will there come a day when black people in the USA look around and realize they have not been slaves in over 100 years ?

Probably not. But if the do, who are they then going to blame?


4 posted on 06/18/2012 3:05:19 AM PDT by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Dolphus T Shields (left), Mrs Obama's ancestor, has a white father who links the First Lady (pictured far right as a baby) with slave-owning the decedents of slave owners who still live in the South. New York Times journalist Rachel L Swarns used DNA testing and historical documents to track down Mrs Obama's living white family members for her new book, 'American Tapestry: The Story of the Black, White and Multiracial Ancestors of Michelle Obama.' http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html
5 posted on 06/18/2012 3:14:09 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: patriot08

I’ve read accounts that Jefferson, Jackson, Lincoln, Harding, Eisenhower and possibly other presidents had black ancestors.


6 posted on 06/18/2012 3:16:47 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So when slavery reparations are handed out, does she pay herself?

Apparently, she's already doing just that.

7 posted on 06/18/2012 3:17:56 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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The Story of the Black, White and Technicolor Ancestors of Michelle Obama




8 posted on 06/18/2012 3:19:46 AM PDT by devolve (------ ---- ---------toss_subhumans_in_Hannibal*s_wild_boar_pit----------- ---------------------)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Worse ...

anti-whiute, racist hatred is genetic ... a mutation of the anti-black gene found in great, etc. grandpappy obrien.

Thus

It's a disease and more'n likely covered by obamacare.

8 weeks paid leave with job security when you return .. all that ... YOU know the routine, eh ?

9 posted on 06/18/2012 3:39:11 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

10 posted on 06/18/2012 3:52:53 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Baractric O’Bama, gosh and begorrah!


11 posted on 06/18/2012 3:59:06 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for necro-Americans!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Damn you Chuck!


12 posted on 06/18/2012 4:16:48 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“'To me, it's an obvious love story,' another descendant, Aliene Shields, added, pointing out they had several children together."

Uh...I don't know how to break this to you, Aliene, but a slave had no legal right to give or deny consent.

13 posted on 06/18/2012 4:55:12 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Going into debt is taking the canoe out with the tide and coming back against it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"I’ve read accounts that Jefferson, Jackson, Lincoln, Harding, Eisenhower and possibly other presidents had black ancestors."

Queen Elizabeth does. Everybody probably does if you could trace your ancestry back far enough.

14 posted on 06/18/2012 5:13:17 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Going into debt is taking the canoe out with the tide and coming back against it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Slavery is one of the mose horrifying evils ever devised by man or the devil. It exists and even flourishes in the world today.

If you want to help put an end to this evil, contact the American Anti-Slavery Group: http://www.iabolish.org/

15 posted on 06/18/2012 5:19:23 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Going into debt is taking the canoe out with the tide and coming back against it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Slavery is one of the mose horrifying evils ever devised by man or the devil. It exists and even flourishes in the world today.

If you want to help put an end to this evil, contact the American Anti-Slavery Group: http://www.iabolish.org/

16 posted on 06/18/2012 5:19:52 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Going into debt is taking the canoe out with the tide and coming back against it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

It’s obvious from the baby photo that both parents are 1/4 white. Michelle would have expected to marry a person of similar admixture in the rules of the color caste system of American negroes. Or so they tell me.


17 posted on 06/18/2012 5:55:45 AM PDT by Havisham
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
OK, so what? Lots of African-Americans have slave-owning white ancestors. Are we going to blame MO for being a rape baby, or even a love baby, n times removed?

This is a ridiculous thing to be concerned with.

18 posted on 06/18/2012 6:36:30 AM PDT by Grut
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The dirty truth is that everyone, at some point in history, had ancestors who owned slaves.


19 posted on 06/18/2012 6:41:32 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: Grut

The gorilla in the room here is that they can track Michelle’s past history and her ancestry going back generations upon generations down to the gleam in her great great great grandaddy’s eye. And yet...


20 posted on 06/18/2012 7:19:09 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: Savage Beast
Queen Elizabeth is supposedly a descendant of the Prophet Muhammad.

Andrew Jackson's family had recently come to the colonies--it's not likely he had any black ancestors in Scotland or Ireland. There was a rumor about one of Harding's ancestors having black ancestry, but that may have been made up by a neighbor who didn't like the man. Jefferson was born in 1743, just decades after African slaves started to become numerous in Virginia--if any of his grandparents or great-grandparents had been black he probably would have looked like someone of mixed-race ancestry.

Supposedly all modern-day humans are descended from African ancestors (the "out of Africa" theory). Anyway the Garden of Eden was in Africa. I learned that from one of my classmates in high school. The Bible says that Adam named all the animals, so the Garden of Eden had to be in Africa for him to name the lion.

21 posted on 06/18/2012 7:40:13 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: devolve

Is she getting ready to hit someone with that spade?


22 posted on 06/18/2012 7:46:48 AM PDT by winodog
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To: A Certain Smile


Sing-A-Long





23 posted on 06/18/2012 8:01:21 AM PDT by devolve (------ ---- ---------toss_subhumans_in_Hannibal*s_wild_boar_pit----------- ---------------------)
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To: winodog





Some of these photos were not taken by the official White House photographer....





24 posted on 06/18/2012 8:08:59 AM PDT by devolve (------ ---- ---------toss_subhumans_in_Hannibal*s_wild_boar_pit----------- ---------------------)
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To: Grut
Lots of African-Americans have slave-owning white ancestors

I hope you are aware that there were thousands of blacks who owned slaves.

25 posted on 06/18/2012 8:17:28 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would say the Ulster slave owner sold Americans defective goods and should be forced to repay the American taxpayers all the money she’s spent since being enthroned as FLOTUS.


26 posted on 06/18/2012 8:26:06 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Lol! If you listen to some people, all of our ancestors were gay as well.


27 posted on 06/18/2012 8:44:28 AM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; NautiNurse; evilC; maggief; StarFan; stanz; DollyCali
I have no idea if the The Belfast Telegraph is right or left-leaning, but - yeesh - did you see the VERY unflattering photo of Moochelle they ran with this story? ROTFL
28 posted on 06/18/2012 8:58:59 AM PDT by nutmeg
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To: Verginius Rufus

Even taking a literalist approach to the Garden of Eden, the range of various lion species was far greater in the past then it stands currently. There were lions in Europe and the New World, as well as Asia (there are still Asian lions, though they have a limited range). And that is assuming a rather strict definition of lion - I doubt that current taxonomic classifications was used in the Bible.


29 posted on 06/18/2012 9:10:39 AM PDT by JerseyanExile
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

so this is how they desensitize feeelings in an election year?

We are all slaves now, Moochelle.

some to others, all to the debt left behind by smucks like your fraud-in-chief.


30 posted on 06/18/2012 9:37:08 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: JerseyanExile
That classmate was not considered one of the brighter bulbs in the class.

Lions were found outside Africa--a famous ruin from Bronze Age Greece is the Lion Gate at Mycenae, and one of the labors of Hercules (Heracles) involved the Nemean Lion (Nemea is in Greece). The ancient Persians had the lion for a symbol. And if the Garden of Eden was in Africa, how did Adam name the kangaroo, the koala, and the wallaby? Not to mention the Komodo dragon or the Gila monster.

31 posted on 06/18/2012 11:08:57 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Savage Beast

Slavery is bad...but I tend to think cannibalism is worse. It’s a human invention too, and was widely practiced. I dare say, some of our ancestors were a meal for someone at one time. Just sayin’....


32 posted on 06/18/2012 12:59:46 PM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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To: Grut

I’m thinking the same thing. Sure, we all are interested in what happened to our folks that went before, but is it really that important to the rest of the world? By now, this who-did-what-to-whom for the purpose of righting-a-wrong has really gotten tedious and trite. BORING and inconsequential.


33 posted on 06/18/2012 1:03:39 PM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You nailed it there.
Moochelle is paying herself her reparations.
Look at her lifestyle and who is paying for it.


34 posted on 06/18/2012 1:04:52 PM PDT by Texas resident (November 6 - Vote Against obama)
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To: daisy mae for the usa
Some of our ancestors probably had someone for a meal too. When we get back several thousand years into the past, there are lots of ancestors, even considering the repeats.

Nonetheless--I accept responsibility for my own actions but no one else's. I also don't take credit for anyone else's benevolence.

35 posted on 06/18/2012 2:25:11 PM PDT by Savage Beast (Going into debt is taking the canoe out with the tide and coming back against it.)
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To: daisy mae for the usa
Some of our ancestors probably had someone for a meal too. When we get back several thousand years into the past, there are lots of ancestors, even considering the repeats.

Nonetheless--I accept responsibility for my own actions but no one else's. I also don't take credit for anyone else's benevolence.

36 posted on 06/18/2012 2:25:28 PM PDT by Savage Beast (Going into debt is taking the canoe out with the tide and coming back against it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
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Thanks 2ndDivisionVet. Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


37 posted on 06/18/2012 2:58:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks 2ndDivisionVet. Whoops, second attempt. Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


38 posted on 06/18/2012 3:03:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Impy

Whoops, and thanks Impy!


39 posted on 06/18/2012 3:31:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Impy; All

None of my kids have my name.


40 posted on 06/18/2012 6:29:40 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (The Glove don't fit.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I am soooo glad they didn't link her to me.
41 posted on 06/18/2012 6:36:44 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: FreeAtlanta

The other dirty truth is many slaves throughout history were not black.


42 posted on 06/19/2012 9:10:21 AM PDT by PghBaldy (I eagerly await the next news about the struggles of Elizabeth Sacheen Littlefeather Warren.)
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To: Savage Beast

Agree.


43 posted on 06/19/2012 12:04:43 PM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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To: GOPsterinMA

You have kids? Or are you just assuming you do? ;-D


44 posted on 06/19/2012 11:49:29 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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