Skip to comments.So Now the President Gets to Decide Who Is an American Citizen?
Posted on 06/19/2012 2:33:22 PM PDT by opentalk
I guess Mr. Obama thinks that he is the King of America, rather than the President. Because the last time I checked, the Chief Executive of the United States of America does not have the power to do an end-run around Congress, just because they arent doing what he wants them to do.
It matters not to Mr. Obama that Congress already took up the issue of the DREAM Act (in 2001, 2009, 2010, AND 2011), but no legislation has ever made it through both houses of Congress (including the two years when Democrats held a filibuster-proof majority in both chambers).
Like it or not, a President is bound by the Constitution to abide by the decisions of Congress his role is most decidedly NOT to legislate from the Oval Office; he is a member of the EXECUTIVE Branch, not the Legislative or the Judicial Branch (note to Mr. Obama: Separation of Powers and Checks and Balances are taught in every High School and College Civics course by the time a law student gets to ConLaw 101, they should have committed those concepts to memory).
Members of Congress have introduced several forms of this bill in both the House of Representatives and the Senate. Members in the House passed one such bill on December 8, 2010 by a vote of 216-198; Senators debated a version of the DREAM Act on September 21, 2010.
A previous version of the bill, S.2205, which required 60 votes to gain cloture, failed on a 52-44 vote in 2007, 8 votes short of overcoming a filibuster by senators opposed to the bill.
Since when does a Chief Executive get to decide who is and isnt a Citizen of this country?
Havent we seen this movie already? (Why yes yes, we have ..)
Many years ago, a party came to power in another country, and one of the first things that the head of that party did was to hand down laws decreeing who was and wasnt a citizen. He just got together with a bunch of legal advisors and let them draw up these new laws never mind that it wasnt put to a general vote or a party vote; no, he just decided that from that point forward, this was the New Law Of The Land.
In other words, this leader gave himself sole authority to decide who was and wasnt a citizen, the existing laws be damned
The name of that leader was Adolf Hitler; those new laws were known as the Nuremberg Laws.
The Reich Citizenship Law stripped Jews of their German citizenship and introduced a new distinction between Reich citizens and nationals.
Article 3: The Reich Minister of the Interior in conjunction with the Deputy of the Fuhrer will issue the necessary legal and administrative decrees for carrying out and supplementing this law.
...Any leader who can arbitrarily GRANT citizenship, regardless of the laws already on the books, will also feel that they have the right to arbitrarily TAKE AWAY a persons citizenship, if they so choose.
We are a nation of laws, and the people who are elected to public office are bound by their Oath of Office to uphold the laws that are on the books. In this country, there are procedures for getting laws on the books, and NO public official is allowed to circumvent that process by declaring that he/she will not follow those laws.
If a leader gets to decide who is and isnt a citizen, then at some point, they will feel that it is their right to just unilaterally decide that they can make ALL of the rules.
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Will he also be making himself a citizen? :)
I expected to wake up this morning to the sound of Republicans in the House and Senate screaming to the rooftops about this.
Funny-—maybe I have gone deaf, haven’t heard a word.
Someone who is not an American citizen gets to decide who is an American citizen?
I am old, this is beyond the pale, can anyone explain to me why we have a kenyan president?
We don't. He's not Eligible.
But, he did take an oath and he has clearly violated it.
We really need to get the impeachment process rolling right now.
If we are a nation of laws Obama and Eric Holder WILL end up facing justice for their crimes. They deserve their day in court but that day MUST COME.
Tea Party On!
Keep the faith! But not in the GOP. We will have to do the heavy lifting ourselves.
Because this country is full of idiotic, numbskull, reality TV show watchers.
He is the Chief Executive of the United States Government. Huge difference!!!!
Correct that he does not have the authority or the power to do an end-run around Congress.
Obama is not a king! He needs to know that, more than anybody else.
U Got my vote, idiots that watch reality shows all must not have much a life. Can you imagine that? I don’t have a life so I have to live it through some reality show?
I would rather spend my time fishing.
My favorite pastime. Nothing like a freshwater mountain trout on the end of your line under a clear blue sky.
Why he could declare them on permanent recess one day, and no one in the enemamedia would say a thing.
And if he tires of his citizens he can order drone strikes against them any time he wants.
Good Post !.... This administration can now decide who is a citizen or not and -— “By the way, in the envelope with your new green card is the number to call to place your donation to the President’s campaign and a voter registration card as a democrat”-—
We would probably have fun together.
If we are a nation of laws, I wish the pubs would get some backbone.
when i was a young man, we dreamed that Barry Goldwater would have became president and as soon as he swore the oath he would have put earl warren in jail.
The following is an e-mail sent to an un-American immigration lawyer in Western NY following her appearance on a local TV channel defending our dictator’s unilateral amnesty.
I loved the straw man you tried to set up on Channel 2 this evening regarding the children of illegal invaders possibly becoming someone who developed a cure for cancer.
I suppose then, given your position on the unknown potential of someone here illegally, you will also be on the front lines fighting against abortions as who knows if your fake straw-person might just be killed by an abortionist.
I won’t hold my breath.
It is amazing just how you lawyers can distort our laws to the point nobody seems to worry about obeying any one of them.
You do have an IQ high enough to know the President CANNOT bypass congress in this manner RIGHT? Can’t wait to hear your spin on our Constitution and the separation of powers.
If the President (any of them not just O’blame-o) can use Executive orders for just about anything then tell all of us why do we need to pay for congress?
Going back to your straw man, for future information, just what crimes do you want to forgive if someone develops a cure for cancer?
In case you want to send her a love note below is a brief BIO from the Erie County Bar Association Volunteer Lawyers Project:
Sophie Feal has been with the Immigration Project of the Erie County Bar Association Volunteer Lawyers Project (VLP), Inc. since it was created in 1999, except for three years in private practice. Currently at VLP, she is the Supervising Immigration Attorney.
In September 2007, Ms. Feal was elected by her peers in Western New Yorks legal community to the Buffalo Law Journal’s annual Who’s Who in Law and in May 2008, she received the John R. Long Award from VIVE/La Casa, for her work with immigrants and refugees. In addition, she has authored many articles on immigration law, and updated chapters on asylum and removal for Matthew Bender’s Lexis/Nexis legal treatise, Immigration Law and Procedure: Desk Edition. From 2002 to 2005, she served as the Chair of the Immigration Committee of the Erie County Bar Association, and has been a member of the Bar Association’s Human Rights Committee since 2000. She is also a member of the National Immigration Project.
She received her J.D. in 1988 from the University of Buffalo Law School. Herself an immigrant, she was raised speaking French and Spanish.
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