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A response to Dr. Paul Bain’s use of ‘denier’ in the scientific literature
What's Up With That? ^ | June 22, 2012 | Dr. Robert G. Brown

Posted on 06/22/2012 7:32:17 PM PDT by Rocky

The tragic thing about the thoughtless use of a stereotype (denier) is that it reveals that you really think of people in terms of its projected meaning. In particular, even in your response you seem to equate the term “skeptic” with “denier of AGW”.

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For this honest doubt and skepticism that the highly complex global climate models are correct you have the temerity to socially stigmatize them in a scientific journal with a catch-all term that implies that they are as morally reprehensible as those that “deny” that the Nazi Holocaust of genocide against the Jews?

For shame.

(Excerpt) Read more at wattsupwiththat.com ...


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: globalwarming
Anthony Watts calls it "likely the best response I've ever seen on the use of the 'denier' term."
1 posted on 06/22/2012 7:32:22 PM PDT by Rocky
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To: Rocky

Read the entire response at the link.


2 posted on 06/22/2012 7:34:07 PM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil)
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To: Rocky

AGW has become the eugenics of the 21st century ideaolgy packaged as science but failing the test.

The sad part is the we really should be studying climate change and what part CO2 has in a very complex phenomena.


3 posted on 06/22/2012 7:55:59 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: JimSEA

The author uses a great quote from Feynman, and also points out that the scary event which is likely to occur in the future is a rapid cooling of the earth. It really is an excellent letter.


4 posted on 06/22/2012 8:10:14 PM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil)
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To: Rocky

The letter is great. I’m frustrated that it was important and necessary to write it.


5 posted on 06/22/2012 8:17:46 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Rocky
Here's an excerpt from Bain's explanation for using the denier label:
It should also be noted that describing skepticism as denial is a term increasingly used in the social science literature on climate change (e.g. in Global Environmental Change, Journal of Environmental Psychology, Routledge Handbook of Climate Change and Society), and is used informally by some within the climate science community.
It blows my mind that there are multiple journals dedicated to the "social science of climate change" (whatever that is). I guess anything is possible when world government's are spreading billions of dollars around to get the results they want.
6 posted on 06/22/2012 8:40:45 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Rocky

that just blew me away, and this will go down some rat-hole, never to be responded to directly, never to see the light of day.


7 posted on 06/22/2012 8:48:27 PM PDT by stylin19a (Obama - The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance)
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To: Rocky

Bttt.


8 posted on 06/22/2012 8:56:57 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: JimSEA

The Left uses labels like “denier” and “racist” to shut off debate on important subjects. I share your frustration that the press has been so dominated by the Left that this word (denier) continues to occur in publications with regularity.

Actually, the fact that the press is overrun by lefties has made the opposition more careful, and therefore more dependable, whereas liberals have gotten sloppy and careless because they usually get a pass on their rubbish.


9 posted on 06/23/2012 3:43:00 AM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil)
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To: Moonman62
It blows my mind that there are multiple journals dedicated to the "social science of climate change" (whatever that is). I guess anything is possible when world government's are spreading billions of dollars around to get the results they want.

The titles of those publications give me chills. These people are so persuaded that their intended results are correct that they are willing to subvert science to get what they want. And they are blatant about it.

Global Environmental Change

I suppose any change is bad. We are supposed to freeze things just the way they are. As though mankind has that power. The arrogance is astounding.

Journal of Environmental Psychology

Are they serious? Talk about the inmates running the asylum.

10 posted on 06/23/2012 3:52:54 AM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil)
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To: stylin19a
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/06/22/a-response-to-dr-paul-bains-use-of-denier-in-scientific-literature/#more-66096

The link to the full letter, so that it will be easier to locate in the future.

I intend to do my part to give this letter wider circulation.

11 posted on 06/23/2012 3:55:53 AM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil)
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To: Rocky

This letter has far broader impact than the title implies. It destroys the entire Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming religion.


12 posted on 06/23/2012 5:27:04 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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This letter has far broader impact than the title implies. It destroys the entire Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming religion.

I agree. It justifies skepticism and reveals CAGW to be a corrupt and dishonest attempt to gain support for a social belief system by leaning upon phony scientific claims and by attempting to close the debate by using ad hominem attacks.

13 posted on 06/23/2012 7:42:26 AM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil)
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