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Don't kid yourself, daily newspaper journalism cannot be replaced(BARF)
Island Packet.com ^ | 6-22-12 | LEONARD PITTS JR.

Posted on 06/23/2012 2:25:23 AM PDT by radioone

All of which lends a certain pungency to something Sarah Palin said recently at a conference of conservative activists in Las Vegas.

"Every citizen can be a reporter, can take on the powers that be," she said.

According to Politico, she was quoting Matt Drudge. Ordinarily, you would dismiss it as just another silly thing Sarah Palin said. There is no shortage of those.

(Excerpt) Read more at islandpacket.com ...


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: dinosaurmedia; drudge; katrina; media; msm; newspapers; palin; sarahpalin
A whine about the decline of newspapers and a poke at Sarah Palin and Drudge. Here is one response:

To Leonard Pitts Jr., I lament the death of investigative journalism and a press that sought objectivity and critical analysis. Sadly, the press has become an instrument of progressive political propaganda as even evidenced by the disdain dripping from your pen for those like Drudge and Palin who point out that modern journalists, like the fabled emperor, have no clothes. The problem isn't, as you assert, that journalists have a poor business sense; but rather, that journalists lack common sense and have chosen as a group to promote statism and social justice (which isn't just at all, but just a retread of the old slaver's belief that it is ok to compel some men to work in support of others).

We, the American People, are tired of your half-truths, distortions, and caricatures of the traditional values that vaulted this nation to prominence. We are sick of your sycophantic dressing up of wolves like Obama. During the 2008 election, you, the press, carefully covered him in sheepskin, hid his real nature, and refused to critically identify and out him as a subversive with a radical leftist background. You, the press, were a willing tool of deception in order to promote your leftist ideals. Go toot your own horn all you want. Your colleagues' colors are clear, and journalism - real objective, fair-minded, critical journalism, died along time ago. All that's left is people who call themselves journalists, but who faithfully regurgitate the propaganda that your leftist masters feed you. About 2 years ago, the NYTimes was wringing its hands over a staff photojournalist who had staged some photos in order to manipulate perceptions. Ironically, at the same time, the grey lady clearly had no objection to creative manipulation of perception done by carefully crafted narrative. Go figure...

The death of professional journalism is at the hand of unprofessional journalists.

1 posted on 06/23/2012 2:25:35 AM PDT by radioone
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To: radioone

Hahaha - more than 12 years ago the local newspaper guy was on my doorstep begging me to take the paper. I told him nothing beat the speed of the internet.

Of course it was a McClatchy paper. The days of little editors making big control over a city, are over.

May CNN/MSNBC/CBS/ABC go the same way with their “news” organizations, which are not news anymore.


2 posted on 06/23/2012 2:43:28 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: radioone
"...daily newspaper journalism cannot be replaced"

It can, if you've got a good birdcage liner.
3 posted on 06/23/2012 2:43:37 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: radioone

http://www.angelfire.com/tn/constcoal/Drudge.html

Anyone With A Modem Can Report On The World

Address Before the National Press Club
Matt Drudge | June 2, 1998


4 posted on 06/23/2012 2:49:19 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: shibumi
My Grandfather used to own 10% of the Tampa Tribune.

After he died my Grandmother was fleeced by her attorney who advised her to sell him the 10%.

Today that stock is worth less than she sold it for then.

5 posted on 06/23/2012 2:50:59 AM PDT by scooby321 (h tones)
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To: radioone

They still print newspapers? Why?


6 posted on 06/23/2012 3:12:35 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Legalize Freedom!!)
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To: radioone

I like an occassional Sunday paper for the ad inserts, coupons, comics and puzzles. I go to my parents house when I get that urge.

The author of this tripe reminds me of the feminazi nuns whose convents are empty because the people aren’t buying the crap they are selling - meanwhile the traditional genuinely feminine convents are swelling with new members because the simple truth is so attractive (and in this analogy citizen jouralists are offering the compelling simple truth).

One of the most important things that has occurred is that we noticed that “bloggers” are no less talented or accurate than the “professionals” - and the aura that used to surround print journalists (making them seem to be dedicated hardworking truthtellers) is simply gone. We now rightly see all writers as biased tellers of information packaged to suit the writers perspective. Writers are human, so the objective nature of any story will always be distorted. The difference is that the “professionals” lie about that fact and pretend that they aren’t leftist “progressive” hacks.


7 posted on 06/23/2012 3:57:17 AM PDT by Notwithstanding (Christ Jesus Victor, Ruler, Lord and Redeemer!)
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To: radioone

Where would an unaccomplished ink-stained wretch like Pitts find employment, were it not for the Leftist newspapers that carry his racist column? Affirmative action hires brought nothing in the way of excellence to papers that are now going broke.


8 posted on 06/23/2012 4:08:03 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: radioone

I know who’s kidding himself, Mr. Pitts.


9 posted on 06/23/2012 4:09:15 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: radioone
Excellent response on your part.

And to the title of the article (Don't kid yourself, daily newspaper journalism cannot be replaced), I say hallelujah and amen.

10 posted on 06/23/2012 4:10:26 AM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil)
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To: radioone

Hey Pitts - Cry me a river!


11 posted on 06/23/2012 4:15:26 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: radioone
There is not going to be a complete death of investigative journalism or newspapers. There will be a great streamlining though! Some are just to boneheaded to figure that out right now or they will stick to there leanings and truly be left behind. You still have people with integrity and a spirit for facts and truth, not agendas. This current crop of scum, leftist, prix reporting dem talking points will keep reducing and more centered balance journalism will take it's place.

In order to survive you have to produce a product for the mass, not only for a certain political cross section. They will be FORCED to change if they intend to KEEP an audience.

12 posted on 06/23/2012 4:43:49 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: radioone
Cannot replace?

BS! I have not subscribed to a print newspaper for over 10 years. Why read something that does not even pretend to represent the truth.

I do miss the editorials of the dozens of regional newspapers who have been bought out by the conglomerates. They actually had thinking people working for them. News was somewhat in context. Now it is only empty words and sound bites someone has reprinted.

Sad, but that is where we are.

13 posted on 06/23/2012 4:50:57 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: radioone

I do not know how many times I have seen local city newspapers let an AP story co-opt their own staff in writing the lead article.

The type of reporting they are talking about (Katrina event coverage) can be done by TV or radio folk.)

I used to be a newspaper maven. In 1976 as a 13 year old, I would read a morning paper, an afternoon paper, sometimes the NY Times, and add U.S. News and World Report on top of all that.

Now, I might grab a “free” newspaper at the Culvers burger joint, and flip through. Nothing there that I don’t get on FR or elsewhere. I read the comics, way downhill from days of yore, and completely unsuitable for the kids, and finally spend most of my newspaper time doing a Sudoku puzzle and the Word Jumble.

Meanwhile, back in Rockford, I find out via LifeSiteNews that somebody firebombed the school bus that many kids in my church go to, and the local newspaper, the ROckford Register Star, can’t see fit to cover it for three days, and then only after they were shamed into it.

Maybe citizen reporters are not sufficient, but neither are the regular variety.

I love it when the guy whistling past the graveyard tells us not to kid ourselves.


14 posted on 06/23/2012 4:52:47 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("You forget, it isn't who you claim, but instead, who claims you. We don't claim you!")
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To: radioone
Rather, the state of daily newspaper journalism only proves English majors should not be allowed to make business decisions. Only English majors could give their product away (i.e., online), then be surprised to see revenues decline.

Of course, there have been city papers that give the paper itself away for free (e.g. Chicago Reader. New Haven Advocate) and have done okay off of advertising revenue. The author should also recall that most newspapers put off putting anything substantive online until they were having their clocks cleaned by national sites.

Finally, even if daily newspapers cannot be replaced, the cash cow classifieds sure can be, and are. Craigslist is real.
15 posted on 06/23/2012 5:12:01 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("You forget, it isn't who you claim, but instead, who claims you. We don't claim you!")
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To: radioone

Pitts wrote: “According to Politico, she was quoting Matt Drudge. Ordinarily, you would dismiss it as just another silly thing Sarah Palin said. There is no shortage of those.”

And that snarky Democrat attitude is EXACTLY why many people are abandoning newspapers.


16 posted on 06/23/2012 5:13:25 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: radioone
Sadly, the press has become an instrument of progressive political propaganda

The key point they fail to grasp: readers won't pay to read propaganda. If journalists want to advocate they can't charge for it. They refuse to accept that and continue to spin left. They will soon be out of work. They believed ObaMao would come through with taxpayer funding like the USSR did. Even with other people's money, why would ObaMao fund what he gets for free?

17 posted on 06/23/2012 5:14:34 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: radioone

Replace journalism? We’d have to have some first.


18 posted on 06/23/2012 5:20:48 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: sirchtruth

Tell that to the newspaper subscribers in New Orleans...


19 posted on 06/23/2012 5:35:05 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: radioone

A few years ago, our newspaper was crowing about how good they were doing. They declared bankruptcy a couple of years ago. I sent them an e-mail asking why they didn’t do any follow-up on our Democrat candidate for Lieutenant Governor seeing as his department in our state government somehow lost $23 million of taxpayer money. No response. They’re just shills for the Democrat party. They have a complete inability for self-examination.


20 posted on 06/23/2012 5:57:44 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: abb
Jack Kelly
People who work at journalism full time ought to be able to do a better job of it than people for whom it is a hobby. But that's not going to happen as long as we "professional" journalists ignore stories we don't like and try to hide our mistakes. We think of ourselves as "gatekeepers."

But there is not much future in being a gatekeeper when the walls are down.

21 posted on 06/23/2012 7:19:40 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: radioone
I lament the death of investigative journalism and a press that sought objectivity and critical analysis.
For myself, I lament the death of skepticism, which should have informed our grandparents that we cannot implicitly trust anyone to be objective.
The wisest and most cautious of us all frequently gives credit to stories which he himself is afterwards both ashamed and astonished that he could possibly think of believing . . .

It is acquired wisdom and experience only that teach incredulity,
and they very seldom teach it enough.
  - Adam Smith


22 posted on 06/23/2012 7:29:26 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: radioone
The death of professional journalism is at the hand of unprofessional journalists.

Dan Rather comes to mind first, thanks to his getting nailed and fired for the fake National Guard memo. People can only wonder how many times the Democrat newsrooms got away with fraudulent smears over the decades before the new media emerged to begin to hold them in check. Dan Rather has certainly not been alone in his dishonest attempt to smear conservatives and Republicans. Far, far from it. It is arguably worse now than ever.

So, surprise, surprise... Pitts got something right, here - - it has indeed been the Democrat newsrooms themselves, with their populations of dishonest Democrat "journalists" (and "journ-O-listers"), who have undermined professional journalism. This recent (2008) quote from the former editorial page editor of the Los Angeles Times says a lot:

"I accept my share of the responsibility for placing the Times in this predicament," Martinez wrote. "But I will not be lectured on ethics by some ostensibly objective news reporters and editors who lobby for editorials to be written on certain subjects or who have suggested that our editorial page coordinate more closely with the newsroom's agenda ..."

Andres Martinez (former editorial page editor of the Los Angeles Times)

23 posted on 06/23/2012 7:44:22 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: blueunicorn6
A few years ago, our newspaper was crowing about how good they were doing. They declared bankruptcy a couple of years ago. I sent them an e-mail asking why they didn’t do any follow-up on our Democrat candidate for Lieutenant Governor seeing as his department in our state government somehow lost $23 million of taxpayer money. No response. They’re just shills for the Democrat party. They have a complete inability for self-examination..
In an ironic way, they even advertise it - if you understand what they are saying. The only way to attempt objectivity is to begin with self-examination, and self-examination is incompatible with claiming actually to be objective. So if they claim to be objective, they actually aren’t even trying to be objective.
The wisest and most cautious of us all frequently gives credit to stories which he himself is afterwards both ashamed and astonished that he could possibly think of believing . . .

It is acquired wisdom and experience only that teach incredulity,
and they very seldom teach it enough.
  - Adam Smith


24 posted on 06/23/2012 7:48:29 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Yeah Lifesite opened my eyes. Since then I’ve never bought a paper again.


25 posted on 06/23/2012 7:50:44 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: radioone
I just checked, and Pitts is still banned from FR. Well, after this piece of nonsense, "Don't kid yourself, daily newspaper journalism cannot be replaced," you can see he is still delusional.

Hey Leonard, you Delta Bravo, check out the price of NYT stock. Or any other paper (or their parent company) that is publicly traded.

No wonder you are still banned from FR.

5.56mm

26 posted on 06/23/2012 8:01:25 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: radioone
Why would we want to replace it?

We just want it to go away.

27 posted on 06/23/2012 8:20:08 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: muir_redwoods

They still print newspapers? Why?.... A few years ago I wrote to one of my congresscritters that we need to impose a %20 tax on newspapers because they fill up landfills killing the environment. His answer? ‘No, no, no. The recyclers you pay for would go out of business!’


28 posted on 06/23/2012 8:35:41 AM PDT by Safetgiver
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To: radioone

The almost total lack of coverage of the gunwalker scandal by Big Lib Media is one huge example of why they need to be stepped on. Does anyone with half a brain think that if this were a Republican admin, we wouldn’t have it blared into our mugs on an hourly basis the dastardly deeds of the president and his minions? But since this is a Dem admin...hey, what scandal? Instead, let’s talk about how Mitt Romney hates minorities. We don’t have any proof of that, but that hasn’t stopped us in the past.


29 posted on 06/23/2012 8:36:33 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: txrefugee

Losing Pitts would be like losing the potato bugs I just squished in my wife’s garden. Pitts and others like him are termites in the foundation of America. Ants at the picnic of western civilization. Hat tip to National Lampoon for those analogies.


30 posted on 06/23/2012 8:39:56 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: radioone
We canceled our subscription to the Boston Globe in late 2002 or early 2003. They stopped delivering to us, and then sent our account to a collection agency about four or five months later.

Once my husband spoke to the collection agency, the Globe began attempting to entice us back.

31 posted on 06/23/2012 8:45:32 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: radioone

Well then, Len, daily newspapers had better get their act together in a hurry, because gone is where they’re headed if they don’t.

And yeah, I know, Sarah’s stupid. Even some folks on FR believe that. But when she criticizes journalism, it’s from the point of view of somebody who’s trained and worked as a journalist.


32 posted on 06/23/2012 8:50:05 AM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: radioone
Also from the comments at the original site:
When you tools ignored the 2,000th soldier to die in Afghanistan, claim the Muslim Brotherhood and Taliban are moderates, ignore the "silly" things Obama says, ignore the failed European green model Obama follows, ignore the billions lost, gambled on "silly" green jobs. You ignore Fast and Furious, or just claim Bush started it. You shouldn't be surprised when we ignore your newspapers, cable news and websites

33 posted on 06/24/2012 10:16:42 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: radioone

“Unnecessary Force”
by JibJab
starring Sarah Palin, Hillary Clinton, Tina Fey, Jay Leno, and David Letterman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=AmRZIJ3Q7CQ


34 posted on 06/25/2012 7:33:01 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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