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Five Types Of Looters You Must Prepare For
Secrets of Urban Survival ^ | 6/21/12

Posted on 06/23/2012 3:55:22 PM PDT by Kartographer

It’s Survival Diva again with some food for thought about societal collapse; what to expect and who to look out for. It’s an important part of the puzzle when you’re one of the few prepared to survive the coming onslaught. Some guesstimate preppers make up only 5% of the populace, but it’s my belief it’s closer to 3% at best, and more likely to be 1-2%. Many give lip service to prepping and claim to be prepared when the truth is they’re still in the “thinking” stage.

They haven’t advanced to in-the-trenches preparedness that many need to do to get prepared faster, where dinners out, budget-draining vacations, and designer anything are put on the back-burner until the storage shelves are full, water has been stored, and must-have preparedness goods are crowding sheds, basements, or in a pinch; closets and under the bed.

To come out on the other side of a wide-spread crisis in one piece, even when you’re prepared, takes getting into the head of the majority of the population who are NOT prepared. If you’re successful, you’ll face, head-on, the darker side of humanity most of us would rather pretend doesn’t exist.

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1 posted on 06/23/2012 3:55:34 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers PING!

You know it is surprising how many of this type we have right here on FR.

Brenda, the Naysayer: Brenda laughed when her co-worker, Sarah, shared her prepping plans. Now, the streets are over-run with desperate folks. The stores have been looted. Grocers, sporting good stores and gun shops were the first to get hit. But there have been plenty of TV’s, computers and high-ticket electronic items pilfered, even though they’re no good to anyone at present. The family car has an empty gas tank, but she’s in good health and so is the rest of her family. It’s just blind luck Brenda knows where Sarah lives, and the awesome part is she isn’t far—only a couple of miles away. Her family is into bicycling, so the problem of transportation is solved; They’ll just zip past the gridlock, baring looters, that is. The rest of Brenda’s plan lies with the knowledge that Sarah is kindhearted.

She’ll put Brenda and her family up until order is restored, which from the looks of things could be a long time. Brenda and her husband throw what little they have in their pantry (what they can handle weight-wise, anyway) into backpacks and pillowcases. Next, they clear out the medicine cabinet. They tried to use their ATM card for cash just yesterday, so they wouldn’t show up empty-handed—they’d never want to be seen as free-loaders—but the grid is hopelessly crashed, so no luck there, and all businesses are closed, including the banks. But Brenda doesn’t necessarily see that as a deal-breaker. She did everything she could, other than fill her pantry and get preparedness goods. And besides, Brenda has two adorable kids…how can Sarah say no?


2 posted on 06/23/2012 3:59:36 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
[sincerity, deep] Aw, heck. The feral government would never let the entire national economy collapse. Those people care about us. They just reminded us right before the last election. What's to worry about? [/sincerity]
3 posted on 06/23/2012 4:01:52 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: Kartographer
Five Types Of Looters You Must Prepare For

Must? Really?

That might have been phrased better. No blogger tells me "must".

4 posted on 06/23/2012 4:10:57 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Kartographer
For years, I hunted coyotes.... Now I hunt feral pigs.

All because they destroy things.

I'm single and only have to worry about myself. I expect that eventually the bounty on feral humans will be replaced by a bag limit and a season.

SHTF, and I'm gonna enjoy the hunt until I get got. Or a bag limit and a season, whichever comes first. ;)

But as I told the cop the other night... I won't put up with that crap in my neighborhood.

/johnny

5 posted on 06/23/2012 4:11:27 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: humblegunner
"No blogger tells me 'must'"

Sure they do, they post and you must respond. -No flame, just another perspective.


6 posted on 06/23/2012 4:18:17 PM PDT by I see my hands (It's time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)
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To: Kartographer

fl


7 posted on 06/23/2012 4:23:08 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: Kartographer

Look, I garden because I enjoy it. And I have pecan trees, almond trees, pear trees, apple trees, apricot trees, peach trees, plum bushes, blackberry bushes and a strawberry bed.

We farm and have on site storage for 15,000 bushels of wheat or grain, a seed cleaning plant. And we have a meat processing building at the farm. Walk-in box, Commercial Hobart butcher band saw, sausage mill & meat slicer. And a brick pit to smoke sausage.

We sold our cattle last year during the 100 year drought. One of our neighbors is currently grazing our pastures to keep his herd intact. I plan on rebuying next spring.

Have thought about putting in a few chickens but my wife says they are too confining if we want to go somewhere. Probably right.

We have the best neighbors in the world. Most of them have rifles & pistols and like to hunt. Lots of game here. Wild hogs, deer, turkey, quail and dove.

We won’t starve. If the SHTF actually happened we might have to adjust our diet, but we would go on. There are oil wells on our farm and many of our neighbors. There are still pumpers who know how to make casinhead gas. hee hee hee

NOW, do I want to go through that? NO WAY. Will it happen? I doubt it, but things are pretty crazy in DC.

Will TX & OK choose to participate in the discussed insanity? Nahhh!

Some of my ancestors were born in TX during The Republic. Others came here during Reconstruction. During just such a time as is being discussed. They went GTT (Gone to Texas), We are still here. So there. It will remain so.

I don’t consider myself a prepper. But this is how we live.


8 posted on 06/23/2012 4:23:08 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Kartographer

The article seems to presuppose absolute anarchy. In reality governments that have collapsed in the past seem to do so because of large factions fighting it out; i.e. Sulla and Marius in the last days of the Roman Republic. This does not mean one should not have food stored to help when stores are closed; it does mean one will probably join a large faction and fight. Portable foods, rather than a fixed location, will be the most desireable.


9 posted on 06/23/2012 4:23:44 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Kartographer

5 looters but I am glad that I have a six shooter.


10 posted on 06/23/2012 4:25:42 PM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: Texas Fossil
"Revrnd!"

Gabby Johnson in Blazing Saddles.

/johnny

11 posted on 06/23/2012 4:27:57 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: I see my hands
Sure they do, they post and you must respond.

Negative. I do not respond to them all.

Some I just let slide, not being offensive or self-promoting.

12 posted on 06/23/2012 4:28:48 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Kartographer
Looter number 6 (not included in the original list) Sheriff Smith with some deputies and a court order accusing you of hoarding in times of national emergency. He's brought some empty government trucks which will be full by the time he leaves whether you allow it or not.
13 posted on 06/23/2012 4:35:32 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: KarlInOhio
They will need to bring lunch. This may take a while. ;)

/johnny

14 posted on 06/23/2012 4:38:26 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer
Now, the streets are over-run with desperate folks. The stores have been looted. Grocers, sporting good stores and gun shops were the first to get hit.

FYI! Over the past two months, two cars parked on my street have had all four wheels and the tires were taken/stolen! My neighbor right beside me two months ago came out in the morning and found that his car was up in the air and sitting on bricks with all four aluminum wheels and the tires GONE!

Then, last week, this happened again to another car just a half block down from my house! Car up in the air and sitting on bricks and wheels and tires GONE!

Then two night ago one of the Houston news channels stated that two different used car lots in Houston were hit and both had all their cars up in rows - -in the air on bricks with all wheels/ tires gone. Total for both lots was thirty-three cars all in a row!

So, be prepared for new types of criminal theft! (and a hint, buying wheel lock nuts my neighbor said he started to buy, won't work because the crooks will probably already gone to auto parts stores and have all the typical brands - I have no clue how to protect my cars!)

15 posted on 06/23/2012 4:39:40 PM PDT by Mr Apple
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To: Kartographer
Now, the streets are over-run with desperate folks. The stores have been looted. Grocers, sporting good stores and gun shops were the first to get hit.

FYI! Over the past two months, two cars parked on my street have had all four wheels and the tires were taken/stolen! My neighbor right beside me two months ago came out in the morning and found that his car was up in the air and sitting on bricks with all four aluminum wheels and the tires GONE!

Then, last week, this happened again to another car just a half block down from my house! Car up in the air and sitting on bricks and wheels and tires GONE!

Then two night ago one of the Houston news channels stated that two different used car lots in Houston were hit and both had all their cars up in rows - -in the air on bricks with all wheels/ tires gone. Total for both lots was thirty-three cars all in a row!

So, be prepared for new types of criminal theft! (and a hint, buying wheel lock nuts my neighbor said he started to buy, won't work because the crooks will probably already gone to auto parts stores and have all the typical brands - I have no clue how to protect my cars!)

16 posted on 06/23/2012 4:39:40 PM PDT by Mr Apple
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To: JRandomFreeper
Hi, Johnny.

There are two kinds of people:
1. Problem Solvers, critical thinkers
2. Unorganized, fuzzy thinkers

1. Fuzzy thinkers give up if a problem arises - they can't do critical thinking. They will call a problem solver. Fuzzy thinkers don't have stored food or stored anything - it's too hard to solve that problem. They can't stay with a project long enough to complete it. Many liberals have these qualities - it's easier to have a glass, or three, of wine and let someone else do the thinking. They think about today, not the future. They will also do the dying.

2. Problem solvers figure they can solve most problems, they just have to find the answer and will go on a quest until they have the answer to fix the problem. They tend to consider the long term - what's out there for the long term and will make plans for the future. Many conservatives have these qualities. They are compassionate and will stack the bodies of the fuzzy thinkers behind things so they won't be seen.

17 posted on 06/23/2012 4:48:12 PM PDT by Marcella (God wouldn't vote for Romney so I won't, either.)
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To: Kartographer

Brenda apparently never saw the Twilight Zone episode about the bomb shelter.


18 posted on 06/23/2012 4:52:56 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Kartographer

I went shopping for produce yesterday (garden still a work in progress) and a woman in front of me in the checkout, with 2 small children (one seemed to be having a tantrum the entire time she was in the store) had WIC vouchers for all her purchases.

On the conveyor belt were a number of small lots of food, each with its own WIC voucher that the checker had to total up, check to make sure the food items precisedly matched the voucher, and so on.

It was an eye opener to me (I rarely shop, for one thing) but around here many, many people use EBT cards and usually not for bulk oatmeal; usually frozen pizzas, candy, chips and soda and the like.

I thought to myself: If [when...] the WIC vouchers disappear and the EBT cards don’t work, there are going to be many hungry and desperate people in my valley. Who could have prepared but did not and will not. I saw the two children - now well fed, but maybe very hungry in a while. What will Mommy do? Is there a Daddy around? It sort of brought home the reality.


19 posted on 06/23/2012 4:55:42 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Marcella
it's easier to have a glass, or three, of wine and let someone else do the thinking.

Oops. Last night was a good example.... ;)

I come from a long line of people that made it. Through times tough and easy.

I've got the skillsets and genetics to manage.

Life is already hard here. I've got problems. Solve them or die.

Not only will I solve them, I'm going to enjoy it, and sometimes, on a Friday night, I'll go out hoorahing with the nurse across the street until 2am.

And regret some of it the next day... hydration is important. Probably should have had an IV.

/johnny

20 posted on 06/23/2012 4:58:54 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer

I learned how to take care of myself forty years ago, starting when Boy Scouts were still focused on such things.

The thing that I am afraid is all of he folks who are good at heart, but simply clueless.

I WILL get a chuckle out of a lot of the white collar idiots in my town who will have to take orders from the local mechanic and carpenter. They are just not wired for that.


21 posted on 06/23/2012 5:09:48 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just hate our government. All of them. Republican and Democrat.)
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looter number 7:

Hector and Jose heard there were easy pickings north of the border. They band together with their fellow drug-smugglin homies for some “lootin buffet” time...


22 posted on 06/23/2012 5:12:25 PM PDT by ak267
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To: Mr Apple

We were robbed recently. They kicked in the front door and took what they wanted. Dropped our brand new HDTV in the driveway, probably after the alarm kicked on. Fortunately my wife wasn’t home alone, which she normally is at that time.

There’s not a whole lot you can do to prevent theft if you aren’t home. All you can do it make your house harder than the neighbors. I fully expect it to get worse.


23 posted on 06/23/2012 5:15:55 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: All
COPY & PASTE FROM MY POST ON THE SAME SUBJECT ON SUNDAY, JUNE 12, 2011 FOLLOWS. FIGURED IT WAS WORTH REPEATING.

Buy ammo. And, do it correctly.....I have a few friends who still don't get it, ie: when I ask, "how much ammo do you have on hand?" I get a few answers of : Got plenty, plus 14 guns in the closet. Have 3 or 4 boxes of 12 ga, a couple for my kids .410, couple of boxes each for my 6 rifles, and a bunch of partial boxes for all my hand guns. I tell them that's fine if they can stay in the house and shoot out the windows, B-U-T if they need to run outside and shoot from behind the car or garage, they may find themselves in the do-do. One can only carry a couple of long guns (of different calibers) and a couple of handguns while on the run, along with their ammo. You shoot up those 3 - 20 round boxes of .30/06, 4 boxes of 7mm, 3 boxes of .45 ACP and you no longer have 3 guns....just 3 clubs.

Designate one shotgun, one rifle and one handgun as your primary "social unrest" home defense weapons and load up on the ammo for them. Having 20 guns doesn't do you any good if all you have is a few rounds for each. Kinda hard to watch out the FRONT living room window where the armed looters are moving around and dig through the BACK bedroom closet for more ammo. ("I KNOW I have at least a half box of .270 somewhere from last deer season......where the hell is it ???").

If you can't afford lots of expensive high caliber ammo, get a few bricks of .22 ammo. 300 rounds flying out that window from your .22 rifle and pistol may not drop a 250 lb man, but a wound in the arm with a .22 will slow him down, take him off the attack and put HIM on defense. Plus, with a bucket of .22 ammo, your wife and kid can easily load one gun while you shot the other.

Don't forget magazines / clips. It's great that you have 1 EXTRA mag that came with your favorite deer rifle, B-U-T a total of 2 mags with only 5 rounds each isn't going to last long until you hear "click" and stop shooting to reload them. If you can't get oversize mags, get a sack full of the "regular" ones.

AND, as noted by another FREEPER after my post; Ensure you have slings on your long guns, so you will have at least one hand free when on the move. If you don't want to "mess up the looks" of your beautiful 375 H & H Magnum with swivels and sling, at least have some precut lengths of small size rope or strapping handy to use for an 'emergency' sling. You can always tie it around the stock and forearm (or barrel) and throw it over your shoulder. It doesn't have to be 'pretty', just a temporary jerry-rig that could save your life.

24 posted on 06/23/2012 5:20:31 PM PDT by jmax (Be warned....I'm armed. Round is chambered, full magazine is inserted, safety is off.)
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To: jmax
The only time I ever approved of my brother's answer to "How much ammo do you have?" was when he said "Who knows?"

If you know, you don't have enough. Only time you can have too much is when the house is on fire. ;)

/johnny

25 posted on 06/23/2012 5:25:48 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer

And btw, both of these neighbors have three vehicles and they only have two car garages. Same with me. The criminals have really thought up a very good way to steal now, and I hope this doesn’t go nation wide - for all of our benefit. :(


26 posted on 06/23/2012 5:37:29 PM PDT by Mr Apple
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To: Kartographer
"Five Types Of Looters You Must Prepare For..."

The worst type is the "Atlas Shrugged" variety...

27 posted on 06/23/2012 5:39:28 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Kartographer

There is another, and potent, adversary: The HOA President; the idiot that thinks he has some kind of power to call votes and demand people obey. I fully expect these little Napoleons to try to organize a “community bank of food, provisions, and other essential items”, and go house to house demanding provisions and conducting searches of private residences. Expect they will even try to involved local governments such as towns or counties. I have already read articles online expressing such desires and legalities. Best be prepared to kill your neighbor as he tries to take your life sustaining provisions through organized mobs called “community associations”.


28 posted on 06/23/2012 5:44:57 PM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
The only time I ever approved of my brother's answer to "How much ammo do you have?" was when he said "Who knows?"

My brother-in-law and I had a similar conversation:

BIL: Do you have a lot of ammo?

Me: I have enough.

BIL: How much is "enough"?

Me: A lot. :)

29 posted on 06/23/2012 5:45:19 PM PDT by TonyInOhio (What did the President know and when did he know it?)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS; Kartographer
The article seems to presuppose absolute anarchy.

It's happened before, AP.

2005 - Katrina;
1992 - Los Angeles;
1977 - New York City

Maybe only a few days (in katrina's case, weeks), but the conditions of anarchy have happened before. Civilization is only a veneer over the savages.

30 posted on 06/23/2012 5:47:16 PM PDT by Old Sarge (Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc... not just pretty words...)
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To: driftdiver

I live in a fairly rural area and there were breakins by two 20 somethings. They thought this area was easy prey as people left for work. They were right.


31 posted on 06/23/2012 5:47:47 PM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: KarlInOhio

Oh, Karl, you just hit on something people really don’t want to think about yet. But I agree with you.


32 posted on 06/23/2012 5:48:24 PM PDT by Old Sarge (Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc... not just pretty words...)
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To: humblegunner

There are only two types of looters...the dead ones who tried to get in and the live ones who are figuring the chances you are out of ammo.


33 posted on 06/23/2012 5:48:24 PM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Kartographer

All I can think when I see threads like is was the scene from the movie “Tremors”

The survivalist builds an underground bunker with enough MREs to feed a city but the creatures evolved and attack from the air, in the end the whole place explodes and he loses everything.

Looters will evolve.


34 posted on 06/23/2012 5:49:39 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (Islamoprogressivenists need not reply.)
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To: Kartographer
Having lived through the Detroit riots and looting of 1967 let me share this: my father and uncle were on the roof with M1 Garands. My brothers were in the first floor windows with Remington 870’s. Last line of defense was my grandmother, mother and sister all with .357’s.

When the looters started down our street a volley of 30.06 greeted them an they scattered.

35 posted on 06/23/2012 5:55:47 PM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President.)
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To: Kartographer

She forgot military/government looters. They will take your stuff under the guise of it being legal.


36 posted on 06/23/2012 5:57:39 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Old Sarge
I was smack dab in the middle of the Los Angeles riots of 1992. One simply stayed out of black areas. Shopping went on as before-again away from the black areas. The Koreans shot a few of our little black brothers who attempted to shop in Korean stores without paying for the merchandise. We worked at home for a few days. Once again I think people confuse localized disasters with a collapse of the entire system(nation). Total collapse is not too likely as the coming Social War will be between armies of people struggling for power.

However, once again it is a good idea to stock up. No argument there!

37 posted on 06/23/2012 6:16:29 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Mr Apple

This happened just around the corner from us also, several months ago. The small truck was in the driveway, in a corner house, on a fairly busy residential street. I was shocked. We have clubs and alarms (AZ is one of the highest for stolen vehicles), but I had never thought someone would take all the tires. And, like you said, how do you prepare.


38 posted on 06/23/2012 6:22:58 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Secret Agent Man

I have no fear of any brand of domestic looter be they black, brown or yellow.

Its the Federal grasshoppers swooping in to take away from the ants.

Either the people will give up their foodstock to the Feds or they will either fight fully armed Federal agents or say the heck with it all and booby trap the whole kit and kaboodle.

Personally I feel the grasshoppers are the real enemies.


39 posted on 06/23/2012 6:24:40 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (Islamoprogressivenists need not reply.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

You mentioned:

“I wash born here, an I wash raished here, and dad gum it, I am gonna die here, an no sidewindin’ bushwackin’, hornswagglin’ cracker croaker is gonna rouin me bishen cutter”

Well, not exactly. I was away for 25 years. (first in my family to move away from this county since 1889) Traveled the Midwest & Western US. Moved back here in 1995. Do not expect to move away again.

“Texas is not where you were born but a State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.”


40 posted on 06/23/2012 6:25:41 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil

“Have thought about putting in a few chickens but my wife says they are too confining if we want to go somewhere. Probably right.”

You could perhaps find someone in your area that would be willing to handle the chickens in your absence in return for eggs or meat. After a crisis eggs will be worth their weight in gold... nice to have some birds around.


41 posted on 06/23/2012 6:31:32 PM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: CodeToad

Fortunately, I have never been dumb enough to buy into a HOA area, but if someone tried to take my food, they will die! I’ll be damned if I let them starve me. They got to go and if I go down in the process, its better than slowly starving.


42 posted on 06/23/2012 6:33:05 PM PDT by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: Old Sarge

I am still amazed that people have to have this explained to them. It has happened many times here in the US and will again.


43 posted on 06/23/2012 6:34:46 PM PDT by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: CodeToad

I could see them trying but not successfully. I agree that the local city officials or just a group of govt employees may try something as well.


44 posted on 06/23/2012 6:36:31 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: humblegunner

humble,

Kartographer is a NM homie and very knowledgeable about this stuff.

Just sayin’ my FRiend.


45 posted on 06/23/2012 6:36:47 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Mr Apple

You might try connecting a fence charger to the cars.A nice surprise at 2AM for some dirtbags.


46 posted on 06/23/2012 6:36:51 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Borax Queen

Well, for one, don’t have super expensive rims on your vehicle. I can’t count the number of idiots here in Memphis who spend $3000 or more of rims bling and then had it stolen shortly after.

Dull functional rims are not in much demand and are not stolen frequently.


47 posted on 06/23/2012 6:39:35 PM PDT by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: driftdiver
I would suggest getting some good dogs,personally I prefer German Shepherds.The only way past the dogs would be to shoot them.
48 posted on 06/23/2012 6:43:05 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Texas Fossil

Good way to live. I’m working hard at doing the same in the middle of nowhere on the Rockies.

I don’t think you’ll have anything to worry about. ...was right in the middle of hurricane Celia and lived there afterward, too. Looting was minimal and violence, non-existent as far as I remember. Neighbors were helpful (all kinds of neighbors). Your part of the country is not like New Orleans or California.

Wouldn’t want to be in the cities way to the north of you, though.


49 posted on 06/23/2012 6:43:12 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

I’d submit to you that local breakdowns that we’ve seen, are microcosms, undercards for the main event. They are VERY instructive of what will happen when the Grand Collapse hits.

As my late father, FReeper Skyraider was fond of saying, “plan for the worst, hope for the best, and expect something in between”.

I’m looking at four potential scenarios here in FLA:
1. Hurricane Season;
2. The RNC Convention in Tampa;
3. The Zimmerman Trial;
4. Election Day (if it comes).


50 posted on 06/23/2012 6:44:38 PM PDT by Old Sarge (Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc... not just pretty words...)
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