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Why Americans Donít Think Obama is a Christian
The Christian Diarist ^ | June 25, 2012 | JP

Posted on 06/25/2012 7:13:22 AM PDT by CHRISTIAN DIARIST

President Obama proclaims himself a Christian. But two-third of Americans either don’t know it or don’t believe it, according to a new Gallup poll.

I count myself among those who don’t believe it. And not just because the president has managed to attend Sunday church services not even a tenth as many times as he has stolen away from the White House to play golf.

The Scripture warns us to beware of those “who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits?”

I believe, as do many evangelical Christians, that Obama is such a ravenous wolf. And the fruits of his presidency bear witness.

On Obama’s watch, more than three and a half million abortions have been performed in this country. Yet, the professed Christian has done absolutely nothing to stop –or even reduce – the ungodly slaughter of the unborn.

That’s because Obama has cast his lot with the nation’s abortionists. “I am pro-choice,” he has declared. He also has stated, “I believe in Roe v. Wade,” the 39-year-old Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion on demand, that denied the humanity of the unborn.

Meanwhile, Obama has so ingratiated himself to the homosexual community that Newsweek magazine admiringly proclaimed him America’s “first gay president.”

He earned that dubious title by repealing the military’s “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy, ordering his Justice Department not to defend in court the federal “Defense of Marriage” law, and, most recently, coming out in favor of same-sex marriage.

What particularly offended about Obama’s endorsement of same-sex marriage is that he dared to suggest that Christ would bless such unholy unions, even though Scripture declares it nothing less than “an abomination” for man to lie with man.

Then there was the Obama administration’s argument before the Supreme Court that church employees can claim workplace discrimination when they are fired because their beliefs or conduct are contrary to tenets of their faith-based employer.

Even Obama’s appointees to the High Court, Justices Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan, agreed that the administration’s position amounted to an attack upon religious freedom. That’s why they joined their fellow justices in a unanimous ruling against Obama’s imps.

Finally, there’s the provision of the Obamacare law that requires churches and faith-based employers to not only provide, but also pay for contraceptive for their workers – no matter whether they were married or single.

The controversy went supernova when the president’s Democrat allies in Congress held a hearing at which Georgetown law student Sandra Fluke, who turned out to be a radical feminist activist, made the case for why religious institutions should not be exempt from the contraceptive mandate.

When Fluke was taken to task by radio host Rush Limbaugh, who wondered why a single woman like Fluke would need birth control unless she was sleeping around, Obama came to her defense.

That’s because she was doing the president’s bidding, furthering his secularist agenda to force religious institutions to be conformed to this morally fallen world, which bombards young women and men with the message that there’s nothing wrong with sexual promiscuity as long as they use “protection.”

Such are the fruits of the Obama presidency. Little wonder that two-thirds of Americans do not identify him as Christian.


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: christian; obama; religiousfreedom; supremecourt
This president has been weighed in the balances and found wanting.
1 posted on 06/25/2012 7:13:33 AM PDT by CHRISTIAN DIARIST
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

I don’t think he is a muslim as many do...I’m more geared to he is 100% atheist.


2 posted on 06/25/2012 7:20:34 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

I find it hard to believe that the president is any sort of devout Christian.

He has said that he was attracted to Christianity as an adult, by such tenets of Christianity as being our brother’s keeper, and our sister’s keeper.

For him to cite a completely mangled and misunderstood interpretation of a Bible story as his inspiration for Christianity, indicates to me that he has very little understanding of the Scriptures, and little understanding of Christian theology.


3 posted on 06/25/2012 7:25:42 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

By their fruits ye shall know them......


4 posted on 06/25/2012 7:26:52 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: trailhkr1

He could very well be an atheist (fits in with his Marxism nicely), but he’s either Moslem or a Moslem apostate, due to his father’s Moslem faith. And he was raised and educated as Moslem by his stepfather, Sotero.


5 posted on 06/25/2012 7:30:49 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
Obama believes in Jesus the way all Muslims do...he believes he was a teacher, perhaps a prophet...but not divine.

If Obama were not a Muslim, Jeremiah Wright would not have needed to present his "church" in a way that made room for Obama's "background" (read: faith) in Islam.

That said, Obama is his own type of Muslim, just as all martyrs believe they can deviate from the teachings and still be forgiven because of their sacrifice as martyrs. BTW, this is why Islamic martyrs hang out at strip clubs and drink heavily and do drugs in the months and days before they commit their acts of terrorism.

Obama's act of terrorism has had a much more damaging effect on America than those martyrs of 9/11. He is bringing the entire country to the brink of the abyss.

6 posted on 06/25/2012 7:34:24 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

All you have to do is listen to Obama.When he speaks he speaks more highly of Islam than he does of Christianity.

He is even able to read the Quran.So what does that tell you?


7 posted on 06/25/2012 7:34:41 AM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

NO TRUE, BIBLE BELIEVING, JESUS LOVING, GOD FEARING Christian believes he is a Christian. I know of NO Christian that I listed above would support abortion and the murder of the unborn in the womb or anything homosexual, marriage, etc. These two reasons tell me he is a liar and a wolf in sheep’s clothing. He is EVERYTHING the Scriptures warn us about. Thus, AMERICA BE WARNED!!!


8 posted on 06/25/2012 7:35:04 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Paul said the world would look like in the last days: See Romans 1: 13-32 for the examples.)
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To: trailhkr1
I have no proof that Obama is a Muslim/Communist/Marxist or whatever, but we do know that in his formative years these are the tings that he was taught, and is very sympathetic to all of those causes............
9 posted on 06/25/2012 7:35:12 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Obama said there is more than one way to God. No Christian can say that.


10 posted on 06/25/2012 7:36:41 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Romney - not Obama - not a Conservative - not a real Christian)
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To: trailhkr1
“I don’t think he is a muslim as many do...I’m more geared to he is 100% atheist.”

Nah. 100% narcissist. He worships himself.

11 posted on 06/25/2012 7:37:13 AM PDT by No Truce With Kings (Ten years on FreeRepublic and counting.)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Its pretty easy actually.

Socialism is the ideology that we must live at the expense of each other. Anyone familiar with Torah will easily see how that structure must directly and openly violate two of the Ten Commandments (theft and coveting).

In the New Testament, the Apostle Paul makes it very clear in Ephesians 5:5 that no covetous person has any inheritance in the Kingdom of God.

This is a rephrasing of his warning to in 1 Corinthians 5:10-11 and 6:10

Ephesians 5:5
(5) For you know this, that no fornicator, or unclean person, or covetous one (who is an idolater), has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
(9) Do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor abusers, nor homosexuals,
(10) nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Many covetous (or sexually immoral, etc.) people may claim to be Christians, but they clearly repudiate the values that Jesus says they must have as a condition of His offered gift of salvation. (John 3:16)


12 posted on 06/25/2012 7:41:16 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: RoosterRedux
Obama believes in Jesus the way all Muslims do...he believes he was a teacher...

And that's in his own words ...

Q: Who was Jesus Christ?
A: A great teacher...

13 posted on 06/25/2012 7:42:42 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Little Ray

He’s either a closet Muslim or a Muslim-sympathizing atheist.


14 posted on 06/25/2012 7:43:55 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: trailhkr1
Why Americans Don’t Think Obama is a Christian

Well, when 0bama spoke with the gushing Georgie Stephanopolous, he said "my muslim faith" before little Georgie stepped in and changed it to "CHRISTIAN" for him, to which he never really acknowledged. But actions speak much louder than words and he has, at every turn, promoted the muzzie philosophy over CHRISTIANITY. Also, check the ONLY school records available for this so-called brilliant guy - his Indonesian school records: young Barry Soetoro is identified as an Indonesian citizen and a muzzie.

15 posted on 06/25/2012 7:46:02 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (An Appeal to Heaven)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
What particularly offended about Obama’s endorsement of same-sex marriage is that he dared to suggest that Christ would bless such unholy unions, ...

That whole Sodom and Gomorrah, fire raining from the sky thing was all just a big misunderstanding, right?

16 posted on 06/25/2012 7:46:02 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

American blacks have a long history of selecting false Christian messiahs. MLK denied the bodily resurrection of Christ, among other heresies.


17 posted on 06/25/2012 7:49:04 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: RetiredArmy; puppypusher

Agree with both of you on that thread and the one before.


18 posted on 06/25/2012 7:54:13 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Also, check the ONLY school records available for this so-called brilliant guy - his Indonesian school records: young Barry Soetoro is identified as an Indonesian citizen and a muzzie.

That was then..I still think he is a atheist..with sympathy to muslims...not so much for their religion but they are 2nd and 3rd worlders countries mostly held down by a boot to the neck from "evil America"

19 posted on 06/25/2012 7:55:24 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

I’ve always known BO was a fraud..The first time heart him speak and watched his cocky attitude I knew..I had and have had an awful seeking feeling in my chest when I see this fraud...After watching him tare down this country and make his own laws I knew this is close to the end...


20 posted on 06/25/2012 7:55:24 AM PDT by PLD
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

I’ve always known BO was a fraud..The first time heart him speak and watched his cocky attitude I knew..I had and have had an awful sinking feeling in my chest when I see this fraud...After watching him tare down this country and make his own laws I knew this is close to the end...


21 posted on 06/25/2012 7:56:11 AM PDT by PLD
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To: bmwcyle

And there are many, operating as Christians, who endorse the “multiple ways” lie.

And when you try to correct such folks, they will attack. It’s a real eye-opener.


22 posted on 06/25/2012 7:57:16 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

I agree with THIS analysis of Obama’s beliefs:

“He’s a Marxist agnostic with a soft spot for Islam, which he sees as a victim of American imperialism. His professed Christianity is mostly a political ruse. He had to do it in order to show solidarity with “the community” in Chicago.”

Post # 27 on this thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2898569/posts

I also don’t find the authentic FRUITS as listed in the Scriptures.
“22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. 24 Now those who [k]belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.

25 If we live by the Spirit, let us also [l]walk by the Spirit. 26 Let us not become boastful, challenging one another, envying one another.” Galatians 5: 22....


23 posted on 06/25/2012 7:59:17 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: F15Eagle

I like to ask, “How many times does the word Coexist appear in the Bible?” They try to refer to like words and I say no, just the word Coexist. They are suprised when I tell them ZERO times.


24 posted on 06/25/2012 8:06:25 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Romney - not Obama - not a Conservative - not a real Christian)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
What if he is a Jew?
25 posted on 06/25/2012 8:08:35 AM PDT by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: DuncanWaring

Is that a quote? Can you provide a link?


26 posted on 06/25/2012 8:14:40 AM PDT by edwinland
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To: SumProVita
He’s a Marxist agnostic with a soft spot for Islam

If Obama is not a Muslim, how do you reconcile that fact with this...

[Edward] Klein also said [Jeremiah] Wright told him he “made it comfortable” for Obama to accept Christianity without having to renounce his “Islamic background,” which Klein said he has on tape.

Source

If Obama weren't a Muslim, he would have nothing to renounce.
27 posted on 06/25/2012 8:23:23 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

HELL! The ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT IN CHIEF isn’t even a U.S. Citizen!


28 posted on 06/25/2012 8:28:59 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I think he has said he became a Christian when Jeremiah Wright told him that Jesus was a black community organizer.


29 posted on 06/25/2012 8:34:12 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

My understanding is that if your father is a Muslim, you are a Muslim. Case closed.


30 posted on 06/25/2012 8:40:24 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: edwinland
It is a paraphrased quote from the Cathleen Falsani (Chic Trib) interview with Obama.

LINK

31 posted on 06/25/2012 8:42:43 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: trailhkr1

He is Moslem and Communist. There is no contradiction in that combination until the Moslems or the Communists or the Moslems and Communists actually assume real power. Then the stronger of the two influences will destroy the other and its adherents. It is similar to the NAZI/Communist relationship of the last century. Both were totalitarian creeds that differed from each other on effectively minor points but could not live together in the same world once they had come to points of pre-eminence.


32 posted on 06/25/2012 8:45:02 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson)
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To: RoosterRedux

What I stated was done so as an opinion....not a fact.
You have a slightly different opinion.

As to the possibility that he is Muslim:

1. I’d have to hear the tape...and more.
2. His overall demeanor seems much more anti-God to me.
3. Please also consider his support for the homosexual (gay) lifestyle.


33 posted on 06/25/2012 8:46:10 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: RetiredArmy
NO TRUE, BIBLE BELIEVING, JESUS LOVING, GOD FEARING Christian believes he is a Christian. I know of NO Christian that I listed above would support abortion and the murder of the unborn in the womb or anything homosexual, marriage, etc. These two reasons tell me he is a liar and a wolf in sheep’s clothing. He is EVERYTHING the Scriptures warn us about. Thus, AMERICA BE WARNED!!!

Your post cuts right to the truth...well done! Zero supports abortion and gay marriage...he is NOT a follower of the one and true Jesus Christ!

34 posted on 06/25/2012 8:49:47 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: edwinland

Don’t have a link, heard the audio clip, in his own words and voice, about three years ago.

The Won’s actual answer to “Who was Jesus Christ?”, in more detail, was “A great teacher...”, then blah-blah-blah for a while, then, at the end, as an afterthought, “...the Son of God”.

An actual Christian would have said “Son of God” first.


35 posted on 06/25/2012 8:53:46 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: SumProVita
Well, of course...it is just an opinion and I might be dead wrong.

As to Obama's being anti-God...he is certainly against the God of Israel and Christians. That is one of the basic tenets of Black Liberation Theology.

And as to homosexuality, consider this....

In Pakistan, sex between men is strictly forbidden by law and religion. But even in the most conservative regions, it's also embedded in the society. Source

Homosexuality has a massive role in Pashtun society and in many other islamic cultures. Probably because there is little or no access to women.

36 posted on 06/25/2012 9:01:22 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: DuncanWaring

See post 31 above.


37 posted on 06/25/2012 9:03:49 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

In Pakistan, sex between men is strictly forbidden by law and religion. But even in the most conservative regions, it’s also embedded in the society.

____________________

Yep...along with a number of other sins. Old Screwtape uses the flesh to tempt people worldwide. ...and he’s having a field day with it in our time.


38 posted on 06/25/2012 9:07:37 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: who knows what evil?; RetiredArmy
.... NO Christian that I listed above would support abortion and the murder of the unborn in the womb or anything homosexual, marriage, etc.

There are a lot of folks warming Christian church pews who do support abortion (pro-choice doesn't sound as bad as abortion or murder) and homosexuality/gay marriage. Unfortunately, they claim to be Christian and will tell you they are if asked ..... a lot of folks are in for a shock when they stand face-to-face with God when the time comes. I have never understood how any true Christian ... following in Christ's footsteps and obeying his Word, could ever vote for someone like Obama or any other prog/liberal for that matter.

39 posted on 06/25/2012 10:24:20 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: MissMagnolia

People do not seem to understand that the opposite of life is NOT choice; it is DEATH. You support abortion; you are NOT Christian.


40 posted on 06/25/2012 10:35:03 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

His god is the Father of Lies. His faith is socialism. His hope is destruction.


41 posted on 06/25/2012 11:46:52 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: MissMagnolia; who knows what evil?; F15Eagle
Amen folks. Amen. I know exactly what you are talking about. I have a cousin. He tells me he is a born again Christian, loves God, loves Jesus Christ, loves the Scriptures, says good prayers, tell people how much he loves the Lord, yet he is a battle hard dimocrat!!! I asked him HOW he supports a party that supports abortion and homosexuality and tells me he is a born again Christian. He says he does not support that part of the party. I asked then what are you supporting, illegals, obama ignoring laws that he doesn't like, hand outs to those who sit on their butts and could actually work if they tried. He just looks at me like I am crazy. I told him he is beating up the wrong tree wasting his efforts for a party with a president, VP, congress critters who support to a T each of those actions above that GOD says in the Scriptures IS WRONG!!!!!!!! He is still a dimo dummy. Go figure.
42 posted on 06/25/2012 6:25:43 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Paul said the world would look like in the last days: See Romans 1: 13-32 for the examples.)
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To: RetiredArmy

“I never knew you, depart from Me” should scare him to death...


43 posted on 06/26/2012 3:31:42 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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