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To: JDW11235
I am not not taking any sides here but you have to remember that after the great depression a cheap and steady supply of food was VERY IMPORTANT.

What began with good ideas had mission creep. At one time we would carry over half to a full year of production through commodity loans, it was called the reserve program. Now if we don't use up the last bushel of it on the day the new crop comes in it is a disaster. The GOAL is to carry over no new crop. Do you see the disaster coming?

We haven’t had a good drought in Iowa for several years, LUCK or MGT? When my parents farmed, it was more years of bad crop than good.

21 posted on 06/26/2012 2:53:06 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.))
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To: PeterPrinciple

You bring up some very good points. Unfortunately no matter how well intentioned, subsidies take money from one person and give it to another, and there’s no basis for them in the Constitution. The Depression was a giant debacle and people look at it far differently, depending on whether they were the moochers or the moochees.

Both my parents come from farming stock, and different sides of the country. Dad was around for the depression, mom a little after, but her mother and grandmother often spoke of the depression. Ergo, I have no first hand experience, but both sides of my family hated the policies instituted during the Depression (Dad is conservative, mom’s mom is an old school Democrat, more conservative than most Republicans, but somewhat liberal).
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RE: “We haven’t had a good drought in Iowa for several years, LUCK or MGT? When my parents farmed, it was more years of bad crop than good.”

It may be neither, directly. “Geoengineering” as they call it, is widely practiced. Here in the local paper this spring, there was a report of how much our agricultural county, and the next county over, budget for cloud seeding (altering weather to make rain, if you didn’t know), as well as how much the state kicks in. In all the amount we paid was IIRC around 300k each year (75k from each county, and the other 150k from the state). Ironically last year this area was considered a FEMA flood zone, and a few people’s homes were damaged. The paper also mentioned that the clouds are seeded each and every year, regardless of precipitation, I guess just in case. Makes me wonder why the clouds had to be seeded (at our expense) last year in the first place.


24 posted on 06/26/2012 3:21:39 PM PDT by JDW11235 (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/ AND "The fat, spoiled, complacent kid is going on a diet." -Unkus)
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