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Report: Zimmerman Passed Police Lie Detector Test
Kulture Kritic ^ | June 26, 2012 | Yvette Carnell

Posted on 06/26/2012 6:33:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A day after killing Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman reportedly passed a police lie detector test when asked if he confronted the teen and if he feared for his life “when you shot the guy,” according to documents released today by Florida prosecutors.

Zimmerman “was classified as No Deception Indicated (NDI)” according to the report.

Problem is, even if George Zimmerman is telling the truth, he was still the aggressor of this altercation. By Zimmerman’s own account, he followed Trayvon Martin, against the advice of the 911 dispatcher, and profiled him as one of “these guys” who had committed break-ins in the past.

According to Zimmerman, Trayvon walked past him once and disappeared, then circled his car and disappeared. Even if Zimmerman’s story is 100% truthful, that still left him with two opportunities to extricate himself from the situation, and he chose not to. So it was still a series of bad choices by Zimmerman that led to Trayvon Martin’s death. There’s no getting around that.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: georgezimmerman; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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1 posted on 06/26/2012 6:34:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Please don’t refer to it as a “Lie Detector” test, because it isn’t. This test ONLY indicates physiological responses to stress, which MIGHT be interpreted as resulting from the subject giving deceptive answers to questions, but it is not an absolute indicator of such.


2 posted on 06/26/2012 6:37:48 PM PDT by Edward Teach
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You appear to get your facts wrong. So, if George walked past Travon at any time why was he attacked by Trayvon. No reason to do that, I get walked past by many people on the streets at all times. Trayvon started the incident and George finished it when he feared for his life.


3 posted on 06/26/2012 6:37:56 PM PDT by mfish13 (ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So Zimmerman was pretty confident about his own story, why am I not surprised. And why am I also not surprised that liberals try to use some method as dogmatic as a lie detector to test Zimmerman? I thought they were so scientific to know that a lie detector fails when the person has planned out the lie, it only detects anxiety in someone who has been desperately trying to make crap up. But of course, I have always found it so amazing how leftists have often said one thing, and done another when it comes to science.


4 posted on 06/26/2012 6:38:03 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Edward Teach

The big point of the story is that some people still think that the polygraph can be used as a lie detector. It detects anxiety, but if someone planned out the lie he was going to tell, the person can simply lie and pass, because they know what they are going to say, and have no need to feel nervous.


5 posted on 06/26/2012 6:40:18 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Kulture Kritic is a leading website for socio-political commentary that reflects conscious and liberal viewpoints.

Well, take your pick -- which one is it?

6 posted on 06/26/2012 6:47:17 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lead police detective in Trayvon shooting reassigned to patrol

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2899797/posts

the SPD leak...


7 posted on 06/26/2012 6:50:39 PM PDT by Jaded (Really? Seriously?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
According to Zimmerman, Trayvon walked past him once and disappeared, then circled his car and disappeared. Even if Zimmerman’s story is 100% truthful, that still left him with two opportunities to extricate himself from the situation, and he chose not to. So it was still a series of bad choices by Zimmerman that led to Trayvon Martin’s death.

Three questions: Why should Zimmerman run away?
What is the "situation" Zimmerman should "extricate" himself from?
Why is it a bad choice for Zimmerman to stay?

8 posted on 06/26/2012 6:53:16 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Edward Teach

Please don’t refer to “it” as Styrofoam™ when it is in fact closed-cell extruded polystyrene foam./sarc.


9 posted on 06/26/2012 7:15:38 PM PDT by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"profiled him as one of “these guys” who had committed break-ins in the past"

Bullshit.

When robberies have been committed, and the suspect(s) have been identified as "young black males", how is it "profiling" when you see a stranger in the burglarized neighborhood THAT FITS A DISCRIPTION OF PREVIOUS WRONG-DOERS?

EVERY time a black "yewt" is in an area he is not known in, he can claim "racial profiling" when someone watches him (and, the State-Run-Media, Al Shaptoon, Jesse Jackass, and the whole lot of 'em will SCREAM it's RACIST!)

10 posted on 06/26/2012 7:19:02 PM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“..bad choices by Zimmerman that led to Trayvon Martin’s death.”

Why does no one mention the “bad” choice made by Trayvon to ambush Zimmerman. He could avoided being shot it he had just gone home. He had the last choice to live, and HE chose badly.


11 posted on 06/26/2012 7:22:17 PM PDT by dmet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It was not choices by Zimmerman that caused Martin’s death. It was Martin’s choice to sucker punch Zimmerman that led to his death.

I’m starting to believe this whole trial is being done to MAKE the blacks riot.


12 posted on 06/26/2012 7:23:49 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( To all my kin: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: mfish13

2ndDivisionVet is the poster of the article; he didn’t write it.


13 posted on 06/26/2012 7:28:00 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Morpheus2009

So let’s see how “Dee Dee” does on a polygraph test. Or the witnesses who changed their story after it became politicized... Or Trayvon’s parents... They should all pass with flying colors...

For that matter, I’d like to see just how good a liar Angela Corey is...


14 posted on 06/26/2012 7:48:21 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This woman is a moron. George Zimmerman’s being there makes him the “aggressor”. Zimmerman’s crime is that he shot a black kid in self defense. I’m sorry Martin is dead, but a false and malicious prosecution directed at Zimmerman won’t bring him back.


15 posted on 06/26/2012 8:13:44 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The first priority is get Obama out of the White House.)
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To: Still Thinking

Based on this, I would say they’re liberal and unconscious.


16 posted on 06/26/2012 8:15:40 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The first priority is get Obama out of the White House.)
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To: Edward Teach
Please don’t refer to it as a “Lie Detector” test

Sorry but they are widely known as lie detector tests and that is what they will be called -- and GZ took two of them that night -- the polygraph and the VSA. lie detector tests -- and passed them both.

17 posted on 06/26/2012 8:16:41 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Those things are said to be something like 98% accurate and I don’t easily picture Zimmerman as one of the two percent who might fool one of them.


18 posted on 06/26/2012 8:26:39 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gee, I thought that Zimmerman at the time was patrolling his neighborhood to protect it from hoodlums. Wouldn’t “trying to extricate himself from the situation” be against the job he volunteered to do?


19 posted on 06/26/2012 8:36:22 PM PDT by winner3000 (ss)
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To: Uncle Chip

Sorry but why perpetuate ignorance, just because it happens to be a popular misconception?


20 posted on 06/26/2012 8:42:26 PM PDT by Edward Teach
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To: Edward Teach

What else would call them so that people would know what you are referring to???


21 posted on 06/26/2012 8:45:38 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Well for starters, I wouldn’t call them by a name that gave a false impression about their nature.


22 posted on 06/26/2012 9:04:39 PM PDT by Edward Teach
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To: Edward Teach

How about if I call it:

Physiological Response to Stress which Might be Interpreted as Resulting from the Subject Giving Deceptive Answers to Questions, but not an Absolute Indicator of such Test.

Is that better than Lie Detector Test???


23 posted on 06/26/2012 9:24:12 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: BerryDingle
Three questions: Why should Zimmerman run away?

Because a US citizen obviously has no right to walk on the same public land that someone else presumes to be "his personal war zone." I can't think of any other reason.

What is the "situation" Zimmerman should "extricate" himself from?

The writer is obviously raysist. Nobody else would suggest that one Hispanic man and one Black man within 100 feet of each other would be known as a "situation" (such as an alarming development that calls for special actions.)

Why is it a bad choice for Zimmerman to stay?

Every non-black citizen of these United States should fear black citizens and run away as fast as possible. Again, I have no other explanation for this racist opinion of the writer.

A sane journalist would simply say that both men were in public space, and as long as they don't threaten each other in an obvious way they are free to do whatever they want, walk wherever they may, talk to people, and so on. There were no laws broken until TM hit GZ; TM was the aggressor.

24 posted on 06/26/2012 9:32:35 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This seems to be the latest effort to recover something from the original narrative that had GZ as the aggressor, and TM as an innocent victim. Now, TM was somehow provoked beyond all forebearance by GZ calling the cops. It’s thin gruel after the original story, but it does have traction with a small subset of people who desperately want to beleive the essence, if not the facts, of the “America is an Evil Racist den of nasty white Hispanics” story line.


25 posted on 06/26/2012 9:44:00 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You can never do more, you should never wish to do less.)
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To: butterdezillion
For that matter, I’d like to see just how good a liar Angela Corey is...

Well, she went to school to become a liar, er, lawyer!

26 posted on 06/26/2012 10:43:06 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Uncle Chip

Frankly I don’t care what you call it, so long as you don’t call it by a name that gives a false impression about its nature or its function.

You are aware that many courts have ruled that polygraph “evidence” is inadmissible?


27 posted on 06/27/2012 9:02:31 AM PDT by Edward Teach
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To: Edward Teach
You are aware that many courts have ruled that polygraph “evidence” is inadmissible?

I realize that, and it is inadmissible in the Florida courts as well.

However in the court of public opinion, and in the court of police investigators on the night of a crime, the fact that a suspect took one and passed it lends a degree of credibility to his statements that would not have been there otherwise.

28 posted on 06/27/2012 9:40:46 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

29 posted on 07/02/2012 4:23:19 PM PDT by RightFighter (It was all for nothing.)
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