The U K’s “Death Panels” are killing old and sick there, Obamacare won’t be any different here

coachisright.com ^ | July 2, 2012 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

[jmaroneps37]

Obamacare-like “Death Panels” are already emptying out hospital beds in the United Kingdom.

According to one report last year the UK’s National Health Service (NHS) euthanized 130,000, mostly expendable seniors. Its benignly named “Care Pathways”, kills almost 360 people every day.

Now it’s Obamcare’s turn to euthanize undesirables. The Supreme Court gave Barack Obama the right to start his own extermination program. Anybody who needs “a little bit too much care” will get put on Obama’s list.

If you were born before January 1, 1953 he has put a target on your back. You had better not get sick and you had better pray someone derails Obamcare’s euthanasia train before a “Death Panel” gavel comes down on your life. When Obama’s verdict is death for you there can be no appeal – that’s in the bill.

This system needs your death to appear to work. That is the reality of the Supreme Court’s ruling – make believe that’s not a clear and present danger …fooling yourself – it’s that simple and that serious.

Government programs NEVER cost near what the liars in Washington tell us... observation tells us Obamacare …Ponzi scheme. Under Obamacare, you will become a number and government bureaucrats will kill off “numbers” to make their program seem to work. They will ration care and kill off the old (60 plus) the mentally and the physically challenged.

Democrats claim “Death Panels” not in Obamacare’s 2000 pages, but why should it? They don’t want us to recognize what they are really up to; liberals never do. Saying Obamacare has no “Death Panels” because those two words aren’t in the bill is a cynical lie.

The Nazis never sent Jews to “Extermination camps” or gas chambers; they sent them to "Work camps and showers.".....

[jmaroneps37]

Aspeople begin to understand that this is real, the demands to dump Obamacare will grow.

[Westbrook]

> Aspeople begin to understand that this is real, the demands
> to dump Obamacare will grow.

Really?

Or will they just roll over like they do in England and the Netherlands?

[txrefugee]

Hopefully, there will be fewer ignorant old voters when this kicks in, but the Death Panels will probably require your last voter registration card to avoid that
possibility.

[Puppage]

Just wait until they find out here, that they'll have to wait 9 months for an appointment to have that lump checked out.

Lets see how much kum ba yah they have left after that.

[jmaroneps37]

Well let’s see now, a SurveyUSA poll found a whopping 6% that’s SIX PERCENT of seniors in Florada think Obamacare will make health care cheaper so hey maybe you’re on to something.

[formosa]

IMHO these death panels and killing off the unborn, the sick, and the old is the west’s attempt to implement agenda 21 population control.

It’s always been my contention that it is never about the money. It is about control of people and resources. None of this is ever actually done to benefit anyone. The proof of that lies in the fact that it makes the lives of individuals more unbearable.

[QT3.14]

Of course you all know illegal aliens are exempt...yes?

Gringos get to pay their ∅Care™ while we may get our treatment delayed or denied.

How Orwellian is that comrades!

[Westbrook]

> Well let’s see now, a SurveyUSA poll found a whopping 6%
> that’s SIX PERCENT of seniors in Florada think Obamacare
> will make health care cheaper so hey maybe you’re on to
> something.

But will they be able to beat the urge to vote straight democrat?

If this poll were accurate, you would expect seniors to vote 94% against 0bamarx.

However, I’ll venture that the majority of seniors will vote democRAT. Almost all my mother’s friends in vote demonRAT across the board.

[The Great RJ]

The first place we will see death panels under Obamacare is neonatal intensive care units (NICU). Instead of all out efforts to save high risk newborns a decision to admit the newborn into the NICU will have to be based on government “guidelines” that will determine whether the newborn is “worthy” of treatment. However abortions will be offered without question for free or at little cost.

[CPO retired]

Bingo! It’s about population control. Control of the numbers of humans sucking up O2, and control of their lives, and minds.

Mind control is already accomplished via PC speech. It’s being done in the courts and it’s been done semantically. Use some positive sounding euphemism in place of “Death Panel”. Call infanticide something else, like “choice” etc..

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[JPG]

Sarah Palin put out the word on the coming death panels and was excoriated by the rats and called a liar and worse. Sarah spoke the truth.

[LADY J]

"Well let’s see now, a SurveyUSA poll found a whopping 6% that’s SIX PERCENT of seniors in Florada think Obamacare will make health care cheaper so hey maybe you’re on to something."

Which shows that 94% are NOT stupid!!!

[bgill]

Just because you don’t meet the killing age, doesn’t mean “they” can’t write you off as mental or having some physical disability especially if that physical ailment is what brought you to the hospital. Not giving you the proper meds in a timely manner would also put you on the fast track to the death panels list.

[SVTCobra03]

I was born before January 1st, 1953 and this old former Marine will not go silently into that dark night. Did you ever see the movie “Rage” with George C. Scott? Just sayin.

[ImpBill]

[Skooz]

BFL

[nascarnation]

For liberals, it’s a double win.
Eugenics AND fixes Social Security/Medicare.

[Max in Utah]

Did you ever see the movie “Rage” with George C. Scott?

Did you ever see the movie "Falling Down" with Michael Douglas? I think there'll be a lot of that happening.

[GOPJ]

UK’s National Health Service (NHS) euthanized 130,000, mostly expendable seniors...

Jokes on the one's who quit smoking, lost weight and 'lived healthy. All that so they could live longer - and the State could murder them. Hey Liberals, eat that granola...

[narses]

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[Nowhere Man]

Did you ever see the movie "Falling Down" with Michael Douglas? I think there'll be a lot of that happening.

I loved that movie. Here's something I wrote a while back, I'm expanding on it as a short story, who knows how far I'll take it.

I've posted this many times before but what if somebody is denied healthcare under Bammycare? People naturally have spouses, children, siblings, friends, parents, grandparents, etc. depending on the age of the one denied. I would hate to be a member of a death panel making such a decision to deny. I'd stay out of dark allies, look under my car before starting it, keep my eyes out for shadows, and jump at every noise I hear at night. Is that noise I hear at 2:30 AM the neighbor's cat or is it Grandpa Jones' grandson, which I denied care to his granddad, with a posse of his friends armed with baseball bats and a shotgun? How about blocking the road in front of me, an old lady in a 1967 Caddy. Did she break down or is she the wife of the man who I denied a hip replacement to, waiting for me where as I step out of my car to help, the last thing I hear is a .45 going off just before St. Peter appears. It's 10 PM, my kid is late in coming home and the phone rings. How about this, what if I denied care to a Tony Soprano?

I know under the insurance companies, there are cases of denial but in a lot of cases, you can get the doctor and hospital to get them to reverse their decision or just go ahead and let the family pay for it and/or go on a charity case. Not so with the government, if you are denied, there is very little redress at all. Ayn Rand put in in a long monologue where it boils down to this, "the more laws you create, the more criminals you make" and when you eliminate the process and route where one can make a challenge to make things right legally, that leaves only one other way, revenge and/or at least forced coercion via illegal means. This is a pandora's box to be sure, people will do anything for their loved ones and for survival.

I remember Quark's quote from DS9 (Star Trek) about us humans, "Let me tell you something about humans, nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people will become as nasty and as violent as the most blood-thirsty Klingon."

I don't feel comfortable in visioning this scenario, but if we keep going on the present track, it will happen.