Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Here Are The New Taxes You're Going To Pay To Pay For Obamacare...
Business Insider ^ | July 2, 2012 | Henry Blodget

Posted on 07/03/2012 1:50:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Well, Obamacare is now official, which means that a lot more people in the United States will have health insurance.

And it also means a lot more people will be paying more taxes.

(You didn't think Obamacare was free, did you?)

Here are some of the new taxes you're going to have to pay to pay for Obamacare:

A 3.8% surtax on "investment income" when your adjusted gross income is more than $200,000 ($250,000 for joint-filers). What is "investment income?" Dividends, interest, rent, capital gains, annuities, house sales, partnerships, etc. Taxes on dividends will rise from 15% to 18.8%--if Congress extends the Bush tax cuts. If Congress does not extend the Bush tax cuts, taxes on dividends will rise from 15% to a shocking 43.8%. (WSJ) A 0.9% surtax on Medicare taxes for those making $200,000 or more ($250,000 joint). You already pay Medicare tax of 1.45%, and your employer pays another 1.45% for you (unless you're self-employed, in which case you pay the whole 2.9% yourself). Next year, your Medicare bill will be 2.35%. (WSJ)

Flexible Spending Account contributions will be capped at $2,500. Currently, there is no tax-related limit on how much you can set aside pre-tax to pay for medical expenses. Next year, there will be. If you have been socking away, say, $10,000 in your FSA to pay medical bills, you'll have to cut that to $2,500. (ATR.org)

The itemized-deduction hurdle for medical expenses is going up to 10% of adjusted gross income. Right now, any medical expenses over 7.5% of AGI are deductible. Next year, that hurdle will be 10%. (ATR.org)

The penalty on non-medical withdrawals from Healthcare Savings Accounts is now 20% instead of 10%. That's twice the penalty that applies to annuities, IRAs, and other tax-free vehicles. (ATR.org)[Continued]

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; economy; obamacare; obamarecession; obamataxhikes; taxes; unions; zerocare
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-28 next last

1 posted on 07/03/2012 1:50:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

NOTHING will sell if it can be put off at all until this is undone. Only in the most dire circumstances will people pay nearly 44% tax on capital gains.

The economy will dry up like a prune.


2 posted on 07/03/2012 1:56:03 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (You've been screwed by your government.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet


3 posted on 07/03/2012 1:59:49 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sequoyah101

This may be a mute issue, I am watching for an October surprise that is biblical in proportion.


4 posted on 07/03/2012 2:00:17 PM PDT by exnavy (The time is upon us, fish or cut bait, may God guide your heart.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s all here in a fully searchable PDF

http://housedocs.house.gov/energycommerce/ppacacon.pdf


5 posted on 07/03/2012 2:01:38 PM PDT by nascarnation
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

I seriously doubt that the sheeple will really understand the full impact of this monstrosity until the entire medical system starts to disintegrate.


6 posted on 07/03/2012 2:01:38 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Skittle pooping unicorns are more common than progressives with honor & integrity.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: exnavy

This may be a mute issue, I am watching for an October surprise that is biblical in proportion.

It’s “ Obama Vampire Hunter “


7 posted on 07/03/2012 2:04:10 PM PDT by molson209
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Sequoyah101

You mean worse than it is now? That’ll be Great Depression II or more. As it is, you can’t buy a job here and if you could it’d pay minimum wage.


8 posted on 07/03/2012 2:08:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In honor of my late father, GunnerySgt/Commo Chief, USMC 1943-65)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thanks for posting this very informative article on the “REAL COST” of OBMADOESN’TCARE!

This does not highlight the other Real Costs of Doctors who won’t be there anymore, the huge Bureaucracys we will have to deal with, the Death Panels that will rule on the Elderlys’ Economic Viabilty and remember Obama HUSSEIN said this was a step towards their ultimate goal of single payer Healthcare! I’m old enough, this Abortion might not have direct impacts on me, but I fear for my children and theirs and FREEDOM and Our Constitution and America!
May GOD SAVE AMERICA and send this Madman Muslim Terrorist back to KENYA for his retirement years! AMEN!


9 posted on 07/03/2012 2:14:29 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from ALLAH and his Prophet, HUSSEIN OBAMA!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sequoyah101
NOTHING will sell if it can be put off at all until this is undone. Only in the most dire circumstances will people pay nearly 44% tax on capital gains. The economy will dry up like a prune.

Who cares. It’s all about getting something for nothing, about repo-rations. About hiring more idiot Federal workers via affirmative action at the expense of private sector employment. Fewer private sector workers in insurance etc and more Federal Gov’t workers to administer this bloated pig of a social welfare plan.

10 posted on 07/03/2012 2:23:56 PM PDT by dennisw
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you earn under $9000 you don’t have to pay any penalty. That is declared income of course. So all the illegal aliens and millions of other poor getting paid off the books or doing nothing but sucking off the Gov’t will pay nothing. If they get sick they can head to the emergency room same as they do today
You and me will pay their freight


11 posted on 07/03/2012 2:28:01 PM PDT by dennisw
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
Flexible Spending Account contributions will be capped at $2,500. Currently, there is no tax-related limit on how much you can set aside pre-tax to pay for medical expenses. Next year, there will be. If you have been socking away, say, $10,000 in your FSA to pay medical bills, you'll have to cut that to $2,500. (ATR.org)

Either ATR or BI blew it, from my memory and our participation it is a current max of $5,000.

Still those that max it out for co-pays are gonna get wacked.

Ditto those HSA-MSA subscribers that use the FSA to truly offset their high deductible....

MSA-HSA's go way just like the college insurance plans and all the small plans i.e the McDonald Plans and all new plans have to meet the "conforming" model which is akin to a Cadillac Plan Blue Cross Blue Shield Plan.

Can you say the total destruction of "Contract Law"? Look how many "contracts" destroyed with this? And that is even getting to what happened to "Catholic Contracts"!

12 posted on 07/03/2012 2:49:23 PM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: taildragger

Who is going to tell or when will someone tell the groups which have received waivers from little barry bastard commie that since this bill is a tax bill the white house slug is not authorized under Constitutional executive powers to unilaterally grant to them waivers from taxes? ... The crickets will be arriving in 3, 2, 1,


13 posted on 07/03/2012 2:55:53 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

I had heard that there was a 1% bank tax that is in that bill- any bank transaction including direct deposit, paying bills, cashing a check, writing a check, transferring funds- would be taxed at 1%. Does anyone know if that is true?


14 posted on 07/03/2012 2:58:03 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, I mean more than now. Transactions will all but stop. Who would sell anything if he thought that a nearly 50% tax on capital gains is insane and thought that some how insanity would be stopped? Wouldn’t he just hold and wait? If relief did not come the damage would be done.

People dependent on transactions would not have work. Properties would not be sold. Long term leases maybe? But what about intangible property? What about people wanting to cash out stocks for living expense? I suppose they could hold the amounts down to below the 200 to 250k threshold. It is not certain that these sales would be included in income though. Maybe there is a loophole there?

Business owners would also find it very hard to sell and wouldn’t. Some other transaction might take place though such as long term leases again.

Of course, this is just more of eat the “rich”. The real rich will probably never see a problem though.


15 posted on 07/03/2012 2:58:44 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (You've been screwed by your government.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Taxes on dividends will rise from 15% to 18.8%--if Congress extends the Bush tax cuts. If Congress does not extend the Bush tax cuts, taxes on dividends will rise from 15% to a shocking 43.8%. (WSJ)

We all knew this here...

I portend that the Bush tax changes of 2003 where Divee's got parody with Cap Gains did more for the investor / economy than we will ever know.

That was a Bill Archer from TX idea if my memory is correct...

Dividend stocks is one of the few havens left for Seniors looking for yield. They might sell out of them and the further de-leveraging of all our unrealized capital new worth errodes under this despot...

Again Houses, GM-Bond-Holders, many 401k's in general and now specifically Dividends take a hit.

After all, how dare these Corporations play G-D and share the wealth, Only I, Barack Insane Obama can determine who shares the WEALTH....

16 posted on 07/03/2012 2:59:19 PM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: exnavy
This may be a mute issue, I am watching for an October surprise that is biblical in proportion.

I am hoping that it is the Rapture.

17 posted on 07/03/2012 3:05:09 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Sequoyah101

The economy is already drying a bit in response the the court ruling.

In a few months we can change the public feeling completely and revive the economy overnight by getting rid of Obama.

Support Mitt Romney.


18 posted on 07/03/2012 3:16:36 PM PDT by altura
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Sequoyah101

I am signed up to handle a legal plan in the USA & Canada that includes IRS tax audit coverage. I predict that’ll be a big selling point with both individuals/families and small business owners, which are covered under different plans. Hope my health improves enough to get out there and sell that and my other ventures.


19 posted on 07/03/2012 3:21:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In honor of my late father, GunnerySgt/Commo Chief, USMC 1943-65)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: altura

Yes, it is possible. Recovery is even possible but fundamental changes are necessary if it is to last. I doubt we have the will or enough agreement for it to happen. We are too divided.

Getting rid of the communist will be a good start if that happens


20 posted on 07/03/2012 3:32:49 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (You've been screwed by your government.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-28 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson