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(Vanity) O'Reilly vs. (Mark) Levin, which is it?
Real Clear Politics Video | 7-3-2012 | me

Posted on 07/03/2012 5:38:24 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot

Two video clips via Real Clear Politics Video, both on CJ Roberts' ObamaCare decision.

First, O'Reilly: Roberts' Ruling Is A "Conservative Decision"

O'Reilly reviews the Supreme Court's ruling on President Obama's health care reform law. Subtitle: Should conservatives despise John Roberts? (Time: 6:10)

Second, Mark Levin: "Roberts Threw The Door Wide Open On The Constitution"

(Time: 6:07) "John Roberts threw the door wide open on the Constitution. Whatever clause he used, it really doesn’t matter to me — it’s all phony, it’s all written in invisible ink what he’s done and what others do to massively increase federal government’s power against you," nationally syndicated radio talk show host Mark Levin said on FOX News' "America Live" this afternoon.

"I don’t normally go after justices unless justices by name come after us. And the fact is that this decision is so outrageous, what he did is so damaging to the court, to the perception of the court and so forth – he has to be called out by name … The more judges and justices want to play politics, the more they are not going to be immune from the political process," Levin said.


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I've tried to see the "Roberts' Super Genius" supporters' viewpoint for days. But still think it is a huge gamble, with so much to lose.

Fellow Freepers, Which is it?

1 posted on 07/03/2012 5:38:28 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot
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To: Sir Napsalot

Not a tough choice. Levin is an intellectual giant, while O’Reilly is not even in Levin’s league.


2 posted on 07/03/2012 5:45:31 PM PDT by gusty
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To: Sir Napsalot

The Great One vs The Leprechaun?

Come on. No contest.

Roberts screwed conservatives and in the process screwed over the entire country.


3 posted on 07/03/2012 5:46:16 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Anyone who thinks Roberts is a super genius is a supreme IDIOT!

Oh, we lost our freedom, but we won something!

One thing republicans ARE NOT made of is smart.


4 posted on 07/03/2012 5:47:15 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Without even looking: Levin.

Any questions?


5 posted on 07/03/2012 5:51:01 PM PDT by NYCslicker
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To: Sir Napsalot

I could only stomach a minute or so of O’really. What a patronizing ass.


6 posted on 07/03/2012 5:52:04 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Sir Napsalot

If you pick BOR you’re an idiot and don’t belong here...


7 posted on 07/03/2012 5:52:10 PM PDT by BreezyDog (PLAN A: A Peaceful Restoration of the Republic.....PLAN B: A Restoration of the Republic)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Mark Levin's dog ‘Pepsi’ has a more intelligent opinion than O’Reilly, and he's been dead more than a year. (No disrespect intended Pepsi)
8 posted on 07/03/2012 5:58:51 PM PDT by bramps (Newt was the one, but Romney will do.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Levin.

Ted Baxter can let his chains rest lightly.


9 posted on 07/03/2012 5:59:03 PM PDT by sauropod (You can elect your very own tyranny - Mark Levin)
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To: Sir Napsalot
You tell me - when has a major federal social program - and this one is a doozy - ever been reversed?

Politicians of the quality we commonly elect do not have the courage. SCOTUS was the firewall.

And this was a slam dunk. I still can't believe it.

10 posted on 07/03/2012 6:00:46 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Sir Napsalot

From this old freepers perspective...our side lost back in the ‘30’s. If you disagree with that then we lost in the ‘60’s and ‘70’s. Either way we lost long ago. Winning (or losing) a battle these days is just rearranging chairs on the Titanic. We live in interesting times when it is good to be old. I feel so bad for the youth of today, like I have failed them. But I tried...yet I was part of the cultural degradation prior to being slapped in the face by Rush in 1991. Human nature is so predictable...which is why history repeats itself.


11 posted on 07/03/2012 6:01:34 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: bramps

I’ve had meatloaf with more intellect than O’Really?. TGO is a Constitutional Scholar; O’Really? is a POS.


12 posted on 07/03/2012 6:06:25 PM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs and most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: Sir Napsalot
O'Reilly: Roberts' Ruling Is A "Conservative Decision"

Is that the guy that's on MSNBC at 8 PM?

13 posted on 07/03/2012 6:08:17 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Sir Napsalot

You must nap a lot if you can’t decide between these two. Wake up and smell the coffee...


14 posted on 07/03/2012 6:09:56 PM PDT by bcsco
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To: gorush

Witnessing the corrupt Republicans and the criminal Democrats bicker over anything, is like watching two drunks argue over a bar bill tab, on the Titanic. The GOP is just merely the lib-dems’ “away jersey”; the flip-side of the same tarnished coin.


15 posted on 07/03/2012 6:10:32 PM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs and most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Levin all the way. O’Reilly is a windbag.
16 posted on 07/03/2012 6:10:51 PM PDT by WellyP (question!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Is Levin a lawyer?


17 posted on 07/03/2012 6:12:26 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08.)
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To: Sir Napsalot
with apologies to Ted Knight

Find O'Reilly

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18 posted on 07/03/2012 6:14:45 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: Sir Napsalot

O’Reilly wouldn’t make a pimple on Levin’s butt.

Levin is right. Roberts just sold us down the River.


19 posted on 07/03/2012 6:15:18 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: gorush
Well, I don't truly buy that you (or your generation) did bad and failed today's youth.

It is a collective thing, as we have enjoyed such a long (relatively) peaceful and prosperous time that it seems it is the norm. But throughout history, we know that is rather the exception.

The current debate about why the West has lost, Steyn’s low birth rate being one popular theory. I think it is simply that we grew into complacency and hubris, undeserved too.

20 posted on 07/03/2012 6:18:43 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: NYCslicker

Second


21 posted on 07/03/2012 6:20:34 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Moronic question.


22 posted on 07/03/2012 6:25:18 PM PDT by Chunga (Ron Paul is a fruitcakey jackass.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Levin knows his Constitution forward and backwards!

oReilly couldn’t find his a$$ with both hands!


23 posted on 07/03/2012 6:25:30 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (I hate pragmatists!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Did O’Reilly even graduate from Junior High? He is an intellectual flea next to Levin’s broad grasp of the Constitution, its philosophical underpinnings, the Founders, and legal precedent. I have listened to him for days and he is dead-on.


24 posted on 07/03/2012 6:25:51 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Sir Napsalot

I trust that with hours of debate mixed with copious amounts of alcohol, we would find ourselves in total agreement.


25 posted on 07/03/2012 6:30:27 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Levin. Who is this O’Really guy? Surprised his figure hasn’t gotten burned from sticking it up to see which way the wind is blowing.


26 posted on 07/03/2012 6:32:38 PM PDT by madison10
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To: NoLibZone
Is Mark Levin a lawyer?

From his Wiki...

Mark Reed Levin (born September 21, 1957) is a lawyer, author and the host of American syndicated radio show The Mark Levin Show. Levin served in the administration of President Ronald Reagan and was a chief of staff for Attorney General Edwin Meese.

27 posted on 07/03/2012 6:36:48 PM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Levin > Ted Baxter

Roberts = Souter (unless votes hurt the skull & bones types)

28 posted on 07/03/2012 6:39:35 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (I prefer liberty with danger to peace with slavery, IXNAY THE TSA!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Ted “BOR” Baxter can’t even spell conservative!!


29 posted on 07/03/2012 6:39:45 PM PDT by Forrestfire (("To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society." Theodore Roosevelt))
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To: Sir Napsalot

Levin.


30 posted on 07/03/2012 6:40:46 PM PDT by Rocko
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To: Sir Napsalot

“Not a tough choice. Levin is an intellectual giant, while O’Reilly is not even in Levin’s league.”

I agree 100%!


31 posted on 07/03/2012 6:42:54 PM PDT by texhenry
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To: Sir Napsalot
SEE: Krauthammer "Bitch-Slap" (he who claims to be looking our for us though he ALWAYS finds a way to defend/excuse Dear Leader and his Admin) the Bloviator in Least.

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/oreilly/index.html#/v/1717423448001/krauthammer-justice-roberts-was-intimidated-by-the-left/?playlist_id=86923

O'Reilly: "Here is why I think he (Roberts) did this"

Charles (paraphrasing) "If that's the case he should resign and we should disband the SCOTUS."

Game, set, Match!

32 posted on 07/03/2012 6:43:41 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet
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To: Sir Napsalot

Ted Baxter (Oriley) couldn’t be more of a wishful thinking moron. Mark Levin participated in the case and is a billion times more knowledgeable than Ted.


33 posted on 07/03/2012 6:47:43 PM PDT by Breto (The Establishment party is killing our country)
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To: chris37
No contest between Levin and Oreilly. BOR, in his own words, is a simple man. More like simpleton. Which is why Rush calls him Ted Baxter. OTOH, Levin is a true Constitutional scholar. Next case, please.
34 posted on 07/03/2012 6:55:40 PM PDT by CT
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To: Jane Long

Ok Thank you!


35 posted on 07/03/2012 6:56:32 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

O’Reilly vs Levin? Are you serious?


36 posted on 07/03/2012 6:56:58 PM PDT by peggybac
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To: Sir Napsalot

if “Roberts’ super genius”, then I guess Obama/Pelosi/Reid are “super genius” as well, by passing obamacare and making sure conservative turn out to vote against them. I guess Obama/Pelosi/Reid are conservative heroes as well.

For this to be true, it rely on action by other Conservatives to win the election. If the election is lost, will you still call robert a super genius?


37 posted on 07/03/2012 6:59:49 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: CT
I watch BOR for the pure comedy of his arrogance and imbecile opinions. For instance, oil prices, which he doesn't know crap about.

Everything is about HIM. He is lucky to put things into a center-right perspective. But mostly he is just an idiot.

Best BOR shows are when Laura Ingraham hosts!

38 posted on 07/03/2012 7:02:27 PM PDT by CT
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To: Sir Napsalot

Levin.


39 posted on 07/03/2012 7:11:05 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: CT

Gotta admit, I watched the O’Reilly link video for about 4 min, but just couldn’t finish it.

Thought I’d better give it a try (open-mindednes and whowtnot), well, did my best.


40 posted on 07/03/2012 7:14:08 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: NoLibZone; holdonnow
Is Levin a lawyer?

Seriously? Go here...browse around and see what Mark does day after day, month after month, year after year, trying to stem the tide of madness and anti-liberty legislation that goes on ALL THE TIME in our once great nation.

http://landmarklegal.org/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabid=7

41 posted on 07/03/2012 7:29:02 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet
WTH? He was writing crap like this just yesterday...

Charles Krauthammer Comments In Detail On ObamaCare Ruling. ” Brilliant Tactical Maneuver By Roberts"

Mon, 07.02.12 6:19pm EST

BY: Charles Krauthammer

To all my friends, particularly those conservatives who are despondent over the searing betrayal by Chief Justice John Roberts and the pending demise of our beloved country, I offer this perspective to convey some profound hope and evidence of the Almighty’s hand in the affairs of men in relation to the Supreme Court’s decision on Obamacare.

I initially thought we had cause for despondency when I only heard the results of the decision and not the reason or the make-up of the sides. I have now read a large portion of the decision and I believe that it was precisely the result that Scalia, Alito, Thomas, Roberts and even Kennedy wanted and not a defeat for conservatism or the rule of law. I believe the conservatives on the court have run circles around the liberals and demonstrated that the libs are patently unqualified to be on the Supreme Court.

Let me explain.

-snip-

http://wallandbroad.net/2012/07/charles-krauthammer-comments-in-detail-on-obamacare-ruling-brilliant-tactical-maneuver-by-roberts/

42 posted on 07/03/2012 7:31:01 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet
Looks like the O'Reilly interview was July 2, which would be the same day as that piece of garbage he wrote (see post #42).

WTH???

43 posted on 07/03/2012 7:42:37 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H

Well if he wrote that on Monday he certainly had several days to think about it

BUT he also said the SM would be forced to cover Fast and Furious —still waiting


44 posted on 07/03/2012 7:43:24 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: Ken H; Conservative Vermont Vet

Right, that was what I read yesterday by Dr. K.

Roberts’ throwing ‘the problem’ back to the voting public, instead of ‘doing his job’. Hence in my #1 comment - “a huge gamble, with so much to lose ....”


45 posted on 07/03/2012 7:44:47 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Levin is the author of “Men in Black” (concerning the Supreme Court).

O’Reilly is the guy who makes obscene phone calls to women other than his wife, allegedly.
(better than being a HOMOPOTUS, though.)


46 posted on 07/03/2012 7:48:36 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Ken H

Doesn’t make sense

Roberts should have called it unconstitutional and be done with it

Why care what the liberals would say or do

The election would hinge on the economy

Let the libs turn out

As long as the GOP has the house ain’t no new Obamacare getting through

If Roberts was trying to outwit the left like Kraut says he really screwed up

And we will pay dearly for his ego trip


47 posted on 07/03/2012 7:48:49 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: gorush
You are probably right. The damage was done 80 years ago, and now the bill has come due. As Maggie Thatcher said, Socialism only works until you run out of other people's money. We are close to the point of running out of other people's money. The eighty year gravy train is about to derail.
48 posted on 07/03/2012 7:50:35 PM PDT by gusty
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To: uncbob

It makes perfect sense when human nature is entered into the equation. Roberts has the mentality of a high schooler. He wants the in crowd to think he is cool too. His decision was based purely on trying to gain the acceptance of the media’s pundits, the liberal ones. Being accepted by the EJ Dionne’s of the world means more to him than his country and constitution.


49 posted on 07/03/2012 7:55:24 PM PDT by gusty
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To: Sir Napsalot
Krauthammer seems to base much of his argument on a false premise. He writes...

He [Roberts]first emphatically states that Obamacare is unconstitutional under the Commerce Clause saying you cannot make people buy stuff. Then he emphatically states that it is unconstitutional under the “necessary and proper” clause which only applies to “enumerated powers” in the US Constitution. Justices Ginsberg, Breyer, Sotomayor and Kagan all went along with these statements.

____________________________________________________________

No they did not! Ginsburg flat out said otherwise in the first paragraph of her opinion, and was joined by Kagan et al...

I agree with The Chief Justice that the Anti-Injunction Act does not bar the Court’s consideration of this case, and that the minimum coverage provision is a proper exercise of Congress’ taxing power. I therefore join Parts I, II, and III–C of The Chief Justice’s opinion. Unlike The Chief Justice, however, I would hold, alternatively, that the Commerce Clause authorizes Congress to enact the minimum coverage provision.

50 posted on 07/03/2012 8:04:28 PM PDT by Ken H
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