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Are Shooters To Blame for Western Wildfires? No. The environmentalists are.
PJ Media ^ | July 5, 2012 | Bob Owens

Posted on 07/05/2012 10:08:21 AM PDT by jazusamo

Shooters have been blamed for starting a number of fires recently in tinder-dry western states, where conflagrations have erupted near shooting ranges. One, Arizona’s Sunflower Fire, has been positively traced to irresponsible members of a bachelor party who fired an incendiary shotgun shell into the underbrush:

The Sunflower Fire — which has burned nearly 18,000 acres of the Tonto National Forest and is not fully contained — began in mid-May after five Arizona men gathered to celebrate the upcoming May 19 nuptials of Bryan Reeder. The group — all in their mid-20s — traveled from Mesa to the Sycamore Creek area for a weekend “campout and bachelor party,” according to court records.

On Saturday, May 12, the quintet awoke and “began to target shoot in an area close to their camp,” a United States Forest Service agent reported in a sworn affidavit. About two hours into the target shooting, Craig Shiflet … loaded an “incendiary shotgun shell” into his Remington 12 gauge and fired the round.

Tyler Pace, another bachelor party attendee, told investigators that after Shiflet fired the round, he “noticed smoke in the brush just behind” where the round landed in vegetation. Pace said the entire group “ran over to where the smoke was and noticed fire, which they unsuccessfully attempted to stomp out.”

Shiflet called 911 to report the blaze, but by then it was too late. He now faces charges for triggering the blaze.

The Salt Lake Tribune claims that 20 wildfires have been triggered by irresponsible shooters in Utah, including the Saratoga Springs Fire and the Dump Fire, but provides no support for the claim. A New York Times report cites the same figure, crediting the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) as its source.

The BLM web site on Utah’s fires does not provide the specificity of the triggers of manmade fires, but records 393 so far this year in the state burning more than 99,000 acres. If these statistics are true, shooters have accounted for just 5% of the fires in the state, making them an odd scapegoat for what appears to be a low-level push by media outlets to restrict shooting on public lands.

What are the facts behind these claims?

Even in dry conditions, the risk of triggering fires by shooting with normal lead or jacketed lead bullets is low. Lead and the soft metals used to “jacket” (encase) bullets are not metals that will spark when they hit earth or brush.

There are, however, fire risks associated with some kinds of ammunition in a specific range of conditions. Steel core ammunition — typically military surplus ammunition from overseas — can spark momentarily against rocks and minerals, and if that rock is in tinder-dry underbrush the possibility for a fire does exist. Likewise, incendiary ammunition — typically military tracer or civilian tracer training rounds — can spark fires in dry brush.

As fellow PJ Media contributor Robert Zubrin notes, however, the mismanagement of wildlife resources has done more to contribute to the conditions to create wildfires than any shooter has:

As I write these lines, vast wildfires are sweeping through my home state of Colorado and other areas of the American West. Last week, two of my employees had to leave work early to rush home to evacuate their families from imminent danger. Hundreds of houses have already been destroyed, and thousands of acres of trees incinerated, and unknown myriads of wild animals burned alive.

This disaster was predictable, and promises to get worse. Over the past decade, from British Columbia to New Mexico, the world’s most rapid deforestation has been underway in the North American West, with an average of nearly six million acres of forest lost per year — roughly double the three million acres per year rate in Brazil. The culprits here, however, have not been humans, but Western Pine Beetles, whose epidemic spread has turned over 60 million acres of formerly evergreen pine forests into dead red tinder, dry ammunition awaiting any spark to flare into catastrophe.

Yet while the global green movement has made a cause célèbre of the Amazon rain forest, they have done nothing to oppose those destroying our woods. Quite the contrary, they have been doing everything in their power to assist the wreckers. Indeed, over the past decade they have launched over a thousand lawsuits to block every attempt by the National Forest Service or others to take necessary counter measures.

“Green” activists have not only contributed to forest fires by creating the conditions for tree-killing beetles to thrive by fighting logging efforts, but also through refusing to let wildfires run their natural course and restricting prescribed burns that are designed to reduce the threat of uncontrolled fires by burning away tinder-dry underbrush.

If the media wants to place blame where blame belongs for western wildfires, the shooters that sparked just 5% of the blazes are the least of their worries. The so-called environmentalists that ultimately contribute to the tinder-dry conditions fueling the fires bear far more responsibility.

TOPICS: Government; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: environmentalists; greens; wildfires

1 posted on 07/05/2012 10:08:31 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo
'Unleash Hell': New Al Qaeda magazine describes in detail how to start huge forest fires across the U.S..with instructions on how to make 'ember bombs'
2 posted on 07/05/2012 10:10:33 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Been wondering when they’d go there.
So easy I hesitate to enunciate scenarios.

3 posted on 07/05/2012 10:16:03 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals:
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Yep, and thanks to the enviro-nazis the terrorists have millions of acres of dead trees to set those fires in.

4 posted on 07/05/2012 10:16:03 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: All
Robert Zubrin's article linked in this article is a very good piece:

Incinerating America’s West (Great rebuttal to enviro-nazis)

5 posted on 07/05/2012 10:21:10 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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6 posted on 07/05/2012 10:25:36 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

I’ve fired somewhere around half a million rounds in my lefetime, mostly outside in dry grasslands etc. Never came near to starting a fire..

I’ve seen MILLIONS of small rounds fired in areas where dry grass and brush was just waiting to go up. The only time I’ve seen small arms cause a fire is when a thousands of tracer projectiles were going downrange... and maybe 1 out of 10,000 might have caused a fire.

IMHO this is just another attempt by 0bama and the UN to take away our guns. Fast and Furious failed to achieve that goal, so they are trying this.

And it may work. Most of the liberal fools don’t REALLY give a damn if some folks from south of the border and a few US Border Patrol officers get killed, but they will weep and wail if one tree burns in their state.

7 posted on 07/05/2012 10:36:01 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: LegendHasIt; george76; Flycatcher; girlangler

Agreed. I’ve seen tracer rounds start fires on military ranges but like you say, there were hundreds if not thousands being fired.

These shotgun hazing rounds are a definite fire hazard and should not be legal and probably aren’t in most areas.

8 posted on 07/05/2012 10:40:56 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: LegendHasIt

OK, I have seen some of those silly specialty shotgun shells that spew flame. Anyone firing one of those casually should be arrested for stupidity. But it isn’t the ‘target shooting’ that caused the fire.

Someone that dumb is just as likely to be a pyromaniac anyway, and if he didn’t have the dragons breath shell, would probably make do with lighter fluid.

Guns don’t cause fires. Stupid people do.

9 posted on 07/05/2012 10:43:20 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: jazusamo

That is a fact! Agenda 21 is heavy on ‘corridors’ and ‘restricted zones’.

10 posted on 07/05/2012 10:48:02 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: LegendHasIt

So true, anyone firing those around anything combustible is an idiot or an arsonist, probably both.

11 posted on 07/05/2012 10:50:03 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

I just came back from AZ and in the National Forests the Stage 2 fire restrictions made it so my son could not legally fire his BB gun

Discharging a firearm, air rifle, or gas gun; except while engaged in a lawful hunt pursuant to state, federal, or tribal laws and regulations; 36 C.F.R § 261.58(m).

I can sort of see the stretch to banning a gun (strongly disagree) but banning an air rifle for fire danger is DAFT.

12 posted on 07/05/2012 11:32:36 AM PDT by lowflyn (Im nobody, just ask a liberal)
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To: lowflyn
You're right, it's crazy in my view. There are many that have wanted to ban shooting on USFS and BLM lands for some time and it looks like they're getting their foot in the door.
13 posted on 07/05/2012 11:47:37 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

I started a forest fire on a military firing range once; well I say “I” but it was actually my platoon. We were cross training with the anti-tank platoon, firing 106mm recoiless rifles at hulks hundreds of meters away, when we noticed smoke rising over the hill beyond our targets. We ceased fire and drove down range to find that at least one round had gone over and started a brush fire. 8-( We reported it, closed the ranges, and fought it for hours, along with the base fire department. When we were pulled out to return to our home armory (we were Army NG), it was still going strong. Burned up about 40 acres, I heard later.

14 posted on 07/05/2012 12:26:06 PM PDT by VietVet (I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to apologize for any of)
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To: jazusamo

The environmentalists are causing small fires to explode into massive fires thru blocking fuel reduction - logging - , closing dirt roads that fire fighters need for access, not ordering enough air tankers, and...

No matter the source of the spark : lighting or whatever

15 posted on 07/05/2012 6:44:12 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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