Posted on 07/10/2012 4:32:51 AM PDT by scottfactor
It is understandable that you keep missing my meaning here, because I doubt you have read any of my other columns, and I'm wondering what Jim Robinson has to do with this.
In no way am I saying "vote for this GOP guy because that one messed us over." I don't consider John Roberts to be anything other than a turncoat, and I don't consider Romney to be anything other than a liberal, but I consider Obama to be a deadly poison for our country. First thing--Obama must go, period. Then we can do our best to get rid of the two-headed hydra, Dem-Repub monster.
Now is not the time for a "protest vote," because there are not enough of us who would do it. That's what I meant when I said that after Roberts' awful decision, I decided to again vote for the lesser of two evils--NO, I DON'T LIKE IT, but I will do it.
Romney is a liberal. Obama is deadly for America. Not liking Romney in no way means we would "still rather have Obama..." That's certainly not the case. As I said, this column is to inform people about Mike Leavitt. I do not think people reading this are stupid enough to read it and say, "I guess I have to stay at home or vote for Obama."
“dope”
Oh joy another name caller.... come on - this is FR, the standard is a bit higher - use your words. Libs call folks names.
If you have a good reason for wanting Obama to be in office for four more years just explain yourself.... don’t call me names.
Marlowe -
If the “rebellion” at the convention is successful I will vote for that nominee. If it is not successful I will still vote for the Republican nominee.
This isn’t rocket science.
You are only predicting Romney’s behavior with a Republican congress, but you know what Obama and his policies will bring regardless of the congress.
The fact that Romney isn’t Obama is a good enough reason for me....
Well you’re a bit late.
The time for anti-Romney campaigning was mostly before he actually won the primary.
There’s still some room for anti-Romney campaigning (until) he picks his running mate. So enjoy...
You guys tried to sucker people in with that line for McCain...It didn't work...And now you are trying it again...Guess you guys don't learn...
Conservatives have no power to change the liberal Republican Party...If Romney gets in, we're stuck with a liberal, anti-American globalist, anti-Tea Party, One World Gov't Republican, again...
You guys blew it last time...You all could have lived with a politician that would have been acceptable to a voting majority but no, you tried to force McCain on those that opposed the Democrats and the status quo...
Romney won't win, even if I vote for him...You guys need to get off the dead horse, it ain't goin' nowhere...
Stop trying to make people do math! Do you have ANY idea how complicated that is with two options to pick from? You guys is mean!
Then you are part of the establishment and you are not a part of the rebellion. The Establishment must be taught that there is a large segment of the GOP who will no longer sit by and watch the GOP turn into a lighter version of the socialist democrat party.
You have signaled that you are on board with Romney only because he is not Obama. You are the kind of voter that the GOP-E was counting on when they threw all their cards on the table for Romney. They knew they could count on people like you being squishy and cowering in fear at the threat of another 4 years of Obama, so they conspired together to give us the most liberal former governor in the history of the United States as the standard bearer for the GOP.
Romney basically got about 30-40% of the votes in the GOP Primaries and caucuses, but because nearly all the primaries were "OPEN" primaries, a large portion of the votes that Romney got were cross over votes from democrats (who really didn't even have a primary) and liberal brainwashed independents who couldn't make up their minds about any candidate and were sold on the lies that Romney was the best candidate to take on Obama.
So go cower in the corner. The GOP-E is pleased to know that you are not going to rebel against their concerted joint war on liberty. As for me, I will do something that Romney has never done in his life. I will stand for something. I will take the risk that my rebellion might make my life a little more uncomfortable for a season.
The Rebellion is on. I know we can't count on you. Who can we count on?
“I do not think people reading this are stupid enough to read it and say, “I guess I have to stay at home or vote for Obama.””
Probably not one article but the drumbeat of negativity is what will generally do it.... its the fatigue and general feeling relayed by the comments against the presumptive Republican nominee. The troops needed to energized against Obama now.
“Then you are part of the establishment and you are not a part of the rebellion.”
Oh darn... and I so much wanted to be part of your rebellion. Are you really over 12 ?
Come on Marlowe, join a Tea Party with me... in numbers we can start moving the system in a course that will change the world.... you sound pretty energetic.
The Republican party has move to left - but last I saw it still takes a majority to make a dent in the system. So if we push to the right (instead of taking our toys and going home) we can move the establishment - we are the right side of the establishment.
I’m sorry, Mike, but I only know how to tell it like it is, as best I can. I am a realist, and am no cheerleader for something I don’t believe.
This column is a piece of information, and while I don’t like Romney one bit (as is apparent in this piece), I will likely vote for him anyway, if he’s the nominee.
Conservatives, even tea party conservatives are lining up to vote for a baby murdering, homosexualist, gun-grabbing, liberal judge appointing, commie health care pushing, big government leftist Republican then crying about the Republican appointed Chief Justice trashing our constitution? But, by God, they say we have to vote for the Republican liberal judge appointing, baby killing, big government socialist statist to keep the Democrat liberal judge appointing, baby killing, big government socialist statist out of office.
Something seriously wrong with this picture. The GOP-e has a lot of people totally bamboozled. They set out to destroy the tea party which was a major threat to their statist agenda, and, by golly, looks like they are succeeding. As a poster told me yesterday, enjoy your stay in the gulags.
May your Republican chains rest lightly.
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If only the "elite" would actually let We the People choose a conservative to run for President, but they will not.
I can't stand the thought of "having" to vote for Romney or split the ticket by voting third party, but what can we do?
What is the answer when we are getting the shaft in our election process? I can't believe that Romney is legitimately getting the majority of "our side's" votes. I believe the fix is in and has been for quite a while now. Chains, indeed.
Think outside the box. Think outside the Republican Party. If you detest Romney as much as you say you do, surely you've thought of this. Vote conservatives everywhere but do not let the "R" be your be-all and end-all. That kind of thinking is what helped get us into this mess.
Sooner or later this fight is going to have to happen. Some of us have determined that the fight should start sooner rather than later.
There are some here for whom conservatism does not end at the ballot box. It doesn't mean you support Obama, as ABOs claim. It does mean, however, that you don't think a statist, regardless of his party, is the right choice to lead the free world.
I hear ya....
But I see first hand the regulations that this administration is piling on us, and it really hurts.
This administration has got to go and the only that is going happen is if the head gets lopped off.... (meaning Obama is voted out).
We need folks on the same page here... when the rubber meets the road.
The "R" has not been my end-all be-all, and I would vote for a true conservative any day. They are a rare breed--true conservatives that will actually run for higher office.
A true conservative third party has long been my wish, but how do we get it past the blockade of the Monster Dem/Repub/Media Washington Machine?
You must teach them that if they foist "a baby murdering, homosexualist, gun-grabbing, liberal judge appointing, commie health care pushing, big government leftist Republican" upon us, that we will take a stand and let him fail.
When the Republican elite push us into a corner when the only choice is between a "a baby murdering, homosexualist, gun-grabbing, liberal judge appointing, commie health care pushing, big government leftist REPUBLICAN" and a "a baby murdering, homosexualist, gun-grabbing, liberal judge appointing, commie health care pushing, big government leftist DEMOCRAT" the GOP-E must be taught that they cannot count on us Conservatives to pull the lever for the "R". Until they know we are as serious as a heart attack on this issue, they will continue down the road they are on now.
Are you going to follow them down that road or are you going to take a stand today?
There is still time to send a message before the convention. We can call upon the Republican Party and the Tea Party and all other concerned conservatives to demand that Romney withdraw his name from the nomination.
That's a good place to start, don't you think? Isn't that better than giving Romney our unconditional support merely because he isn't Obama?
The war is on. Which side are you on?
If a hundred million of us would do this... wow! Then, we might get somewhere.
Well, please allow me put it to you this way: your post on scottfactor, and your posting on this website, are an excellent start.
Tea Partiers and conservatives are by nature intelligent people. We think for ourselves and we don’t use traditional methods of communication unless it suits us. The Tea Party is a grass roots movement and I have no reason to believe that through hard work, we can’t form the basis for a political party that would draw both conservative Republicans and conservative Democrats (yes, I believe they still exist) who are disenchanted that their party left them as ours left us).
The people will speak. But Romney simply perpetuates GOP-E control of the party machine. So, we have to go outside the box.
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