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Scranton, Pa. Mayor Slashes All Public Worker Wages to $7.25 per Hour, City Effectively Bankrupt
MISH'S Global Economic Trend Analysis ^ | 07/10/2012 | MIKE SHEDLOCK

Posted on 07/10/2012 7:28:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Scranton, Pennsylvania's, the state's sixth-most-populous city (population of 76,089 in 2010 census), is down to its last $5,000 and has no way to pay salaries.

The mayor wants an immediate tax hike of 29% and 78% over three years. In every sense of the word, Scranton is bankrupt.

NPR reports Scranton's Public Workers Now Paid Minimum Wage.

The city of Scranton, Pa., sent out paychecks to its employees Friday, like it does every two weeks. But this time the checks were much smaller than usual. Mayor Chris Doherty has reduced everyone's pay — including his own — to the state's minimum wage: $7.25 an hour.

Doherty says his city has run out of money.

Doherty wants to raise taxes to fill a $16.8-million gap. The city council wants to take a different approach and borrow money. City council members did not respond to NPR's requests to discuss the dispute.

After paying workers Friday, the city had only about $5,000 left in the bank. More money flowed into city accounts that day, but it was still not enough to pay the $1 million the city still owes to its nearly 400 employees.

The firefighters' union, along with the police and public works unions, have taken the city to court. Lackawanna County Judge Michael Barrasse issued an injunction, essentially agreeing with the unions that the city was breaking the law, but Doherty says he doesn't have another choice. Despite the injunction, he had the city send out paychecks based on minimum wage.

The unions plan to be back in court first thing Monday morning to ask the judge to hold Doherty in contempt.

There's been no love lost between Doherty and the public employee unions because of this battle; they've already spent the past decade in a legal dispute over pay that went all the way to the state supreme court. Both sides come to this latest battle with plenty of baggage and hard feelings. But with nearly 400 city workers receiving a fraction of the pay they typically get, pressure is building to resolve the issue soon.
Scranton Mayor Slashes City Workers' Pay

Filling in a few more details, IBT reports Scranton Mayor Slashes City Workers' Pay To Minimum Wage
Doherty wants to raise taxes by 29 percent immediately and by as much as 78 percent over the next three years, while the council wants the city to borrow money. The Scranton Times-Tribune reported there's no way for the city to take out a loan because it is unable to show it is capable of paying it back.

"I'm trying to do the best I can with the limited amount of funds that I have," Doherty told NPR. "I want the employees to get paid. Our people work hard -- our police and fire -- I just don't have enough money, and I can't print it in the basement."

Since the political firestorm erupted, Scranton Police Chief Dan Duffy has stepped down from his position, although he claimed his decision has nothing to do with the financial mess the city finds itself in, according to the Times Leader.

The unions see the mayor's pay slash as a bullying technique designed to force the city council to adopt his tax increases.
City Effectively Bankrupt

It should be perfectly obvious to every soul on the planet that Scranton is bankrupt. Tax hikes are not the answer. The solution is filing bankruptcy with the hope of killing public union wages and benefits.

However, inane rules in Pennsylvania prohibit cities from filing bankruptcy without state approval.

On October 12, 2011 I reported Pennsylvania State Capital Files for Bankruptcy

Unfortunately, City of Harrisburg chapter 9 bankruptcy dismissed
The US Bankruptcy Court for the Middle District of Pennsylvania has dismissed the bankruptcy petition filed on behalf of the City of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, finding that the city failed to meet eligibility requirements under the Bankruptcy Code to be a chapter 9 debtor.

The dismissal of Harrisburg’s petition, in November 2011, highlights the US constitutional considerations in municipal bankruptcy cases and the Bankruptcy Code’s strict requirement for a municipality to have express state authorization to become a chapter 9 debtor.
Inept city management, with public union wages and benefits at the heart of it, killed Scranton.

The city is bankrupt. Period. Will the state once again deny the obvious?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Society
KEYWORDS: bankruptcy; minimumwage; pennsylvania; publicworkers; scranton

1 posted on 07/10/2012 7:28:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

About time some public sector workers had to face the music. Private sector workers have been cutting back for years. Wait till they find out they can’t just raise taxes and fix it.


2 posted on 07/10/2012 7:32:42 AM PDT by STYRO (Do not accept unconstitutional government as legitimate government.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I get the feeling that Scranton won’t be alone in taking this action for very long.

It looks like the hens are coming home to roost.


3 posted on 07/10/2012 7:33:33 AM PDT by basil (Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe Scranton Joe Biden can help...


4 posted on 07/10/2012 7:34:09 AM PDT by Col Frank Slade
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To: SeekAndFind

Stockton, California; Scranton, Pennsylvania, are or will be officially bankrupt.

Let the liberals weigh in. Is the solution more and more tax hikes, or is the solution to cut public spending?

I’m critical of liberals on these tax and spend issues, because they don’t seem to grasp reality. They don’t seem to understand that you can’t simply always increase taxes to get money to pay for public spending. The liberals wail about cuts to public spending, and they wail that such cuts are an attack on public employees, an attack on the poor, etc.

With a mindset that one hates public employees and hates the poor, if you would like to see a balanced budget in our public spending, shows how out of touch some liberals are.


5 posted on 07/10/2012 7:34:58 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: SeekAndFind

You don’t borrow to meet payroll. If you do, you’d better have a re-structuring plan ready to reduce costs ready to go. Doesn’t sound like Scranton city council has one.


6 posted on 07/10/2012 7:35:58 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ah, liberalism.

For those to whom even elementary mathmatics is like quantum physics.

Guess those “leaders” never figured out that comzintas have to be equal to or greater than goezouttas in order for things to keep functioning.

Shove it up your smelly Obamas, Scranton.


7 posted on 07/10/2012 7:36:24 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: SeekAndFind
Who is John Galt Meredith Whitney?
8 posted on 07/10/2012 7:37:00 AM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: Dilbert San Diego

RE: Stockton, California; Scranton, Pennsylvania, are or will be officially bankrupt.

Let’s not forget Vallejo, CA and Harrisburg, PA.


9 posted on 07/10/2012 7:38:36 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: basil

The typical plan would be “go to Harrisburg and beg them to send a big bag of money”. But since Corbett became Governor that ain’t flying.

The transit system in Pittsburgh will likely shut down soon for the same reason.


10 posted on 07/10/2012 7:41:41 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

We brought our son to the Univ. of Scranton on the 5th for a tour of the campus - it’s a nice place and he liked it very much and is now on his short list. I wonder if the town will become like Detroit by the time he has to make a decision.


11 posted on 07/10/2012 7:41:48 AM PDT by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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To: SeekAndFind

So what actually happens to a city that is bankrupt? Has this happened before?


12 posted on 07/10/2012 7:42:06 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: BipolarBob
This article was written 9 months ago . Perhaps, it is time to revisit the finances of these cities....


7 U.S. Cities on the Verge of Bankruptcy

The harsh economic climate is changing. The time has come when citizens and companies aren’t the only ones being forced to file for bankruptcy…

Major cities are among the ranks of those in dire straits.

On Wednesday, Pennsylvania's capital city Harrisburg opted for the rarely used Chapter 9 of the U.S. bankruptcy code.

The current struggle is between the state and city of Harrisburg over control of the city, whose population of around 50,000 people had been having difficulties paying for critical services for over the past year. On top of that, the city has incurred as much as $458 million in debt and several lawsuits with creditors.

“The city does not have the ability to pay those money judgments or any significant portion thereof and still provide health and safety services to its citizens and other essential government services,” said Mark Schwartz, an attorney hired by the City Council.

According to Schwartz, bankruptcy gives the city “bargaining power” with its creditors, municipal workers, retirees, and the state.

"Municipal bankruptcies are rare. But if Harrisburg is successful in winning concessions with bondholders, pensioners and other stakeholders, it could lead other financially troubled cities to seek bankruptcy."

As of 1937, only 629 municipal bankruptcies under Chapter 9 of the U.S. Bankruptcy Code have been filed. Most recent of these is Orange County, California, which filed for bankruptcy back in 1994, and Vallejo, California, following in 2008.

Is your city or town next to fall onto the sword and file for Chapter 9?

The 7 U.S. Cities on the Verge of Bankruptcy

Washington, D.C.

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 City  Population:
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Budget in Fiscal year 2012:
Annual Budget Shortfall:
Deficit per Capita:
2011 Unemployment Rate
Washington, DC
599,657 $322 million
$9.6 billion
3.4% $537 11.1%

 

The District's deficit was cut in half in 2010 due to tax increases, but Mayor Vincent Gray's budget plan calls for $127.2 million in tax and fee increases within income, parking, off-premise alcohol, and franchise taxes – in addition to public transportation fare increases, while cutting economic development, public safety, public education, and social services.

Still, Gray's plan will leave the Washington Metro Area in the red. He says the budget would inflict some pain: “[It’s] a tough budget, I'm not going to represent it as anything else,” he admits. Yet little more than a week after his budget plan was announced, he was arrested for protesting that Congress (which oversees the DC budget and laws) was taking away autonomy granted to the city for the last several years, meaning it will be banned from spending city money on things such as HIV prevention.

Detroit, Michigan

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2011 Unemployment Rate
Detroit, Michigan
713,777
$155 million
$3.11 billion
5% $217 12.9%

 

Recently cited in a Reuters poll as highest potential candidate for municipal bankruptcy, Detroit mayor Dave Bing has tried to work with the Republican-controlled Michigan Legislature – but has struggled. His budget-balancing proposals include a higher tax on Detroit casinos, pension reforms, the suspension of state drive licenses for three unpaid Detroit parking tickets, and continuing to collect income and utility taxes. With the city’s dropping population comes less money generated from taxes, sinking the Motor City in even deeper debt.

Honolulu, Hawaii

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2011 Unemployment Rate
Honolulu, Hawaii
905,034/td> $100 million
$1.93 billion
5.1% $110 5.2%

 

Honolulu Mayor Peter Carlisle was investigated by the local Honolulu Civil Beat which went on to reveal the Mayor had budgeted more than $43 million to fund 1,095 unfilled jobs for 2012. Carlisle’s first budget plan set out to tackle long-term debt; he said he would raise taxes and fees while asking unionized city workers for 5% pay cuts.

New York City, New York

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2011 Unemployment Rate
New York City, NY
8.1 million $4.58 billion
$65.7 billion
7% $565 8.7%

 

Mayor Michael Bloomberg has already begun to address the FY2012 deficit by calling for layoffs in all city agencies, closing 20 fire departments during night hours, and reducing services for seniors, libraries, and cultural centers. Bloomberg dismissed around 6,000 of the city’s 75,000 teachers in June before the state passed its $66 billion budget with note to no more teacher layoffs. The New York City Mayor's office has predicted the city's budget gap could rise to $4.4 billion.

Chicago, Illinois

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Chicago, Illinois
2.7 million $636 million
$8.2 billion
7.7% $2353 10.2%

 

Chicago's former mayor Richard Daley destroyed the Windy City’s finances by using up nearly the entire revenue from a long-term lease of the local parking system and airport. The lease was supposed to last until 2018, but only made it to 2010. Chicago hopes to build a city-owned casino to raise revenue. Meanwhile, newly-elected Mayor Rahm Emanuel's first budget proposal was unveiled and focuses on large cuts. His new plan consolidates police and fire headquarters, reduces library hours, and takes out 2,000 vacant jobs – some of them police – out of the budget. Emanuel’s plans include the layoffs of more than 500 people.

Cincinnati, Ohio

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2011 Unemployment Rate
Cincinnati, Ohio
331,285 $60 million
$1.2 billion
20% $181 8.7%

 

The City of Cincinnati has been keeping much of its fiscal policies quiet, only briefly announcing budget cuts and layoff plans for the past two years. Many believe the city’s limited announcements are in preparation to file for bankruptcy… Mayor Mark Mallory has been holding off discussion of the proposal set forth that the city will not lay off police officers in 2011 or 2012. Mallory is using his “campaign season” as an excuse to avoid addressing his plan to lay off police officers in the next two years while outsource the force to the neighboring city of Hamilton and dismantling the Office of Environmental Quality.

Camden, New Jersey

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2011 Unemployment Rate
Camden, New Jersey
517,234 $28 million
$138 million
20.2% $54 11.1%

 

Newly-elected Mayor of Camden, Dana Redd, came into power and began ruling with a strong fist, but she still has a long way to go to dig the nation's most dangerous city out of deficit… In her 2011 budget proposal, Redd called for departmental budget cuts of 24%, a $4 million reduction in operating costs, a freeze on all non-essential spending, $7.5 million in cost reductions to the Fire Department, and worst of all, a $14 million reduction to the Camden Police Department – which in turn, cut the entire force in half.

Bonus list: Practically every major city in California: San Diego, San Jose, San Francisco, Los Angeles

San Diego

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2011 Unemployment Rate
San Diego
3 million $56.7 million
$2.8 billion
2% $19 10.2%

 

Despite cuts within the public and higher education sectors and fire engine cutbacks, San Diego is still in a deep hole. The fire stations had thousands of blackouts as the cuts rotated throughout different stations to save $11.5 million the current fiscal year. Weekly recreation center hours will be reduced to 20 hours, and the equivalent of 77 full-time positions were cut, saving $6.5 million. The city proposed 6% pay cuts for employees and has cut out 120 full-time positions.

San Jose

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2011 Unemployment Rate
San Jose
894,943 $115 million
$2.5 billion
4.6% $128 10%

 

San Jose Mayor Chuck Reed said it best, “Whether or not we declare an emergency, we're in an emergency. We just laid off police officers. Last year, we laid off firefighters. We've closed libraries, community centers. We are in an emergency and we need to take action.” Reed also looks to close the deficit by reducing services and controlling the cost of retirement.

San Francisco

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2011 Unemployment Rate
San Francisco
808,976 $380 million ($480mil for '12-'13, $642mil for '13-'14)
$6.8 billion
5.5% $470 9.7%

 

Mayor Edwin Lee presented his $6.8 billion budget proposal aiming to close the $380 million shortfall caused by growth in employee benefit costs and loss of revenues from state and federal government. The city will cut San Francisco's deficit by forgoing scheduled pay increases for city employees – saving $20.2 million – and enacted a hiring freeze.

Los Angeles

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Deficit through 2012:
Budget in Fiscal year 2012:
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Deficit per Capita:
2011 Unemployment Rate
Los Angeles
9.8 million $457 million
$6.9 billion
6.6% $46 13.3%

 

Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa closed a $336 million shortfall with large cuts to the police and fire departments while also cutting $19 million from Recreation and Parks Department. Also, Los Angeles' homelessness programs reduced funding by 10%, and permanent cuts to city spending have been made while reducing funds for public safety, library operations, and street preservation and maintenance.

*Combining all these four California cities, you get a deficit of $1.01 billion, a budget of $19 billion, and an annual budget shortfall of 5.3%. The unemployment rate of the four cities totals 10.8% or 1.572 million unemployed.

 

In June, Governor of California Jerry Brown signed the most austere fiscal package in decades. The package contains $15 billion dollars in cuts including:

$5 billion in health and human services

$1.3 billion in higher education

$1 billion in corrections

$350 million in the state's court system

$700 million in state employment compensation and governmental efficiencies

$400 million in California Community Colleges

The budget also has a clause for $2.5 billion in triggered cuts, meaning if anticipated revenue doesn't equate, there will be additional mid-year reductions in public education, public safety, higher education, and health and human services.

If it seems like a handful of California cities are in a financial bind… the entire Golden State is actually teetering on the edge of bankruptcy... as are many other of the major cities in the United States.

 

13 posted on 07/10/2012 7:43:10 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

RE: The typical plan would be “go to Harrisburg and beg them to send a big bag of money”

How can Harrisburg help when the city itself is BANKRUPT?

On October 11, 2011, the City of Harrisburg filed a Chapter 9 bankruptcy petition in the United States Bankruptcy Court for the Middle District of Pennsylvania.

Judge Mary France dismissed the petition however, because the City Council majority that filed it over Mayor Linda Thompson’s objection, could not file without the mayor’s approval, and in any event had circumvented state procedures for distressed cities.

Instead, a state appointed receiver was to take charge of the city’s finances.[29] Governor Tom Corbett appointed bond attorney David Unkovic as the city’s receiver, but Unkovic resigned after only four months.

Later in an op-ed piece Unkovic blamed corrupt influence and disdain for legal restraints on debt for creating an intractable financial problem.

As creditors began to file lawsuits seeking to seize and sell off city assets, a new receiver, William Lynch, was appointed.

As of July 2012, the City Council remained at odds with the new receiver’s plans for tax increases and determined to seek the protection of the bankruptcy process, while the Mayor continues to oppose bankruptcy.

TO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT, THE STATE OF PA (Much less its capital ) HAS NO MONEY TO RESCUE ITS BANKRUPT CITIES.


14 posted on 07/10/2012 7:46:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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Leftists don’t understand that all of the activist judges in the world cannot suspend economic reality—when the money is gone, it is GONE.


15 posted on 07/10/2012 7:46:34 AM PDT by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: SeekAndFind; Kartographer

this is how collapse starts.

Prepper ping?


16 posted on 07/10/2012 7:47:59 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningfull to say)
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To: SeekAndFind
Lefties don't understand the concept of "we are out of money."

They don't understand the concept of money, period.

17 posted on 07/10/2012 7:47:59 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Like most other northern cities they probably have more former fire, police, public employees on retirement/disability pay living high on the hog down in Florida than actively working in the city. That will bankrupt any city —


18 posted on 07/10/2012 7:48:24 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: SeekAndFind

Just doing a little quick math (e.g., for D.C.) -

$9.6 billion divided by 600k people is approx. $16,000 per capita.

Minimum wage ($7.25 times 40 hrs. times 52 weeks) grosses you $15,080.

Sounds like government is a better deal than working for a living. And you get 52 weeks’ vacation instead of one or two.


19 posted on 07/10/2012 7:52:36 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: SeekAndFind

Will Scranton be listed on Ebay soon?


20 posted on 07/10/2012 8:03:58 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Don't forget Detroit which is basically in State Receivership.

I predict that dozens of cities will be filing bankruptcy in the next several months and hundreds if Obama gets reelected. Without a major change in the direction of the country, there will be no economic recovery. Without a huge economic turn around starting with an Obama defeat, very few cities will be able to meet their obligations and union contracts.

21 posted on 07/10/2012 8:18:53 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I know several liberals. They don’t seem to grasp reality. They are always convinced there IS more money, that entities are “rich as trolls”, and they don’t believe the money is gone.

If it really is, they think raising taxes is the answer. They never seem to get if you raise taxes, people find a way to stop producing or pass it on. If you do convince them that’s what happens, they get mad and their efforts are towards making sure those evil rich don’t “get away”.

How dare they not pay their “fair share”!

It’s sort of breathtaking, unbelievable, and terribly sad to see, but that’s the way libs think.


22 posted on 07/10/2012 8:19:50 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Will Scranton be listed on Ebay soon?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Or maybe it will show up on "Pawn Stars".

"You never know what's going to come through that door."

"$40 billion ?!? How but 500 bucks, cash? Hundred dollar bills."

23 posted on 07/10/2012 8:24:14 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2
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To: Eccl 10:2

"In Philadelphia, it's worth 50 bucks."

24 posted on 07/10/2012 8:26:45 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: capydick

I know what you mean, my daughter is going to start next month at nearby Wilkes Univ. (Wikes-Barre PA). We live in Carbon County, a short drive for us but I share your concerns.

But look on the plus side, Scranton is the birth-place of “hardscrabble Joe” Biden and home of Sen. Bob Casey. Of course the big problem is that the city is so mis-managed that they really don’t want to get involved. It’s going to be fun to watch.


25 posted on 07/10/2012 8:42:24 AM PDT by fatboy (This protestant will have no part in the ecumenical movement)
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To: STYRO

Franklin Delano Roosevelt(The GOD of The Left)was TOTALLY against the unionization of the public sector.He knew it wouldn’t work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


26 posted on 07/10/2012 8:48:19 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: I still care

As I read there are 20,000 property owners in Scranton and the average earning is $38,000

So the endless well of taxes that liberals and their judges seem to regard as at their disposal when they need more money- may be running dry


27 posted on 07/10/2012 8:55:40 AM PDT by silverleaf (Every human spent about half an hour as a single cell)
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To: I still care

As I read there are 20,000 property owners in Scranton and the average earning is $38,000

So the endless well of taxes that liberals and their judges seem to regard as at their disposal when they need more money- may be running dry


28 posted on 07/10/2012 8:55:59 AM PDT by silverleaf (Every human spent about half an hour as a single cell)
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To: STYRO

Obama tells us that the private sector is doing fine. Those government workers can just go find better jobs in the private sector.


29 posted on 07/10/2012 9:03:38 AM PDT by No Socialist
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To: SeekAndFind

while the council wants the city to borrow money. The Scranton Times-Tribune reported there’s no way for the city to take out a loan because it is unable to show it is capable of paying it back.


Council apparently cannot connect the dots. Maybe the council would lend their retirement money to the city?


30 posted on 07/10/2012 9:08:36 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.))
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To: SeekAndFind
There is a takeover/attempt of takeover of Detroit's finances by the Michigan state gov. While I can see why a lot of the locals are not happy about it, I think this article gives credence why this might have to happen from time to time.
31 posted on 07/10/2012 9:09:17 AM PDT by nerdwithagun (I'd rather go gun to gun then knife to knife.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Democrats know how to fix this. The problem for them is that if they cut government workers, then they can’t be sure that those new private sector workers will give money to the Democrats.


32 posted on 07/10/2012 9:11:30 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SeekAndFind

I hear Dunder-Mifflin is hiring...


33 posted on 07/10/2012 9:25:27 AM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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34 posted on 07/10/2012 9:37:53 AM PDT by randita
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To: SeekAndFind
Sending out paychecks ever two weeks costs a lot. Paying once a month would cut out half the staff, cut postage and handling and supplies, and would leave the city's money in the bank to earn interest. Sure, it may not be much in the larger scheme of things but paying every two weeks is one of the wastes that should have been stopped long ago.
35 posted on 07/10/2012 9:41:10 AM PDT by bgill
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To: SeekAndFind

Wanna bet those cities also have a large illegal population and/or welfare population.


36 posted on 07/10/2012 9:47:23 AM PDT by bgill
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To: SeekAndFind

Atlas-——errr Biden Shrugged.
Other peoples money just isn’t supposed to run out but be tapped into infinity.


37 posted on 07/10/2012 9:47:44 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: SeekAndFind
Hmmmmm?

OH! OH! Let me guess! Mayor Doherty is a Democrat.

Otherwise the article would have referred to him as Republican Mayor Doherty or at least had the (R) after his name each time he was mentioned in the article.

Am I right?

Yes! Yes! I'm right!

Well, that was easy.

38 posted on 07/10/2012 9:55:04 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well they should follow the lead of Kookifornia-—build a massive high speed rail from Pittsburgh to Philly and include Scranton on the line.
Yeh, that’s the ticket.


39 posted on 07/10/2012 9:56:37 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: SeekAndFind

Where did you get all this great information? Please cite a source or sources, or did you piece it together yourself from various sources? Quite frankly, I’m surprised St. Louis or Kansas City, MO aren’t listed. Thanks for posting...


40 posted on 07/10/2012 10:09:49 AM PDT by OriginalChristian (The end of America, as founded, began when the first Career Politician was elected...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Cloward & Piven strategy at work once again.

Demand so much from government and the taxpayers it will collapse the system.

If the state does not allow them to go bankrupt and shed all those criminally negligent negotiated benefits and pensions then the city just has to shut down. PA will have to provide basic services of police & fire.

People, you cannot have both parties on the same side of the negotiation table without eventually going bankrupt. Communist unions, negotiating with communists in the democrat party are not negotiating in good faith for the public at large.

You don’t have to be an economics major to understand these union/democrat negotiations are nothing but political bribe sessions with the public footing the bill for the bribe.


41 posted on 07/10/2012 10:13:45 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: No Socialist

The private sector could find plenty of people to do those jobs for $7.25 per hour. Probably turn a profit on it as well.


42 posted on 07/10/2012 11:14:19 AM PDT by STYRO (Do not accept unconstitutional government as legitimate government.)
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To: OriginalChristian

RE: Where did you get all this great information? Please cite a source or sources

I believe I gave the link in the original post. But here it is:

http://www.wealthwire.com/news/economy/2045


43 posted on 07/10/2012 12:16:12 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Particularly Union lefties. All they know is that the big evil boss is keeping it all from them so to get back they will waste as much time as possible.


44 posted on 07/10/2012 8:41:35 PM PDT by matt04
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“Stockton, California; Scranton, Pennsylvania, are or will be officially bankrupt.”

You can add Mammoth Lakes and San Bernardino, CA to the growing list. I just imagine that the RATS are crapping little green apples knowing that they can’t continue to pay their “union goons” and that some of them are going to end up on the unemployment rolls before the election in November. They will have more pissed off out of work union voters and higher unemployment numbers. Not good for them!


45 posted on 07/11/2012 10:36:12 AM PDT by vette6387
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