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Chief Justice Says Following Constitution Not Important
Townhall ^ | July 10, 2012 | reasonmclucus

Posted on 07/10/2012 1:27:09 PM PDT by kathsua

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I agree it's time to vote to determine who serves on the Supreme Court.
1 posted on 07/10/2012 1:27:15 PM PDT by kathsua
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To: kathsua

With term limits.


2 posted on 07/10/2012 1:30:08 PM PDT by wastedyears ("God? I didn't know he was signed onto the system.")
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To: kathsua
Mr. RomneyCARE supports Justice Roberts on this.
3 posted on 07/10/2012 1:31:40 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: kathsua
I agree it's time to vote to determine who serves on the Supreme Court.

The question is whether doing so would make any difference.

After all, look who we have in elected positions today.

4 posted on 07/10/2012 1:33:56 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: kathsua
Chief Justice John Roberts says in his opinion that the Interstate Commerce clause doesn't authorize the mandatory health insurance provision of Obamacare but that following the Constitution isn't important so long as the Chief Justice is in political agreement with what Congress wants a law to do.

WRONG! WRONG! WRONG! But until the congress is willing to exercise it's authority and punish wrong doers like this it will come to nothing!

5 posted on 07/10/2012 1:35:39 PM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: kathsua

I’m curious what morning Roberts woke up to find a horse head in his bed.


6 posted on 07/10/2012 1:35:39 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: kathsua
If Congress calls a charge a "penalty" then the Court can only consider whether or not that penalty is in accord with the Constitution. The Chief Justice cannot change the word penalty to the word "tax" to make the law valid. The Chief Justice cannot say in effect "you little boys and girls in Congress should have called this penalty a tax, so I'll change it to a tax for you."

You're right, he can't.

And he didn't.

In his ruling, Roberts quoted Obamacare itself, at Title 26, § 5000A (g) (1), which reads:

The penalty provided by this section ... shall be assessed and collected in the same manner as an assessable penalty under subchapter B of chapter 68.

Then Roberts did this amazing, totally judicial thing that no one else can possibly do except someone with his vast power at their fingertips - he actually looked up the law that Obamacare quoted. And when he did, he found that subchapter B of chapter 68, specifically at § 6671 (a), says:

The penalties and liabilities provided by this subchapter shall be ... assessed and collected in the same manner as taxes. ...any reference in this title to "tax" imposed by this title shall be deemed also to refer to the penalties and liabilities provided by this subchapter.

Then, after reading these actual laws cited by Obamacare itself, Roberts made this blockbuster observation: "The requirement to pay is found in the Internal Revenue Code and enforced by the IRS, which-as we previously explained-must assess and collect it "in the same manner as taxes."

Let's see, Roberts said the penalty must be assessed and collected "in the same manner as taxes" after reading that Obamacare itself invokes § 6671 (a) - which literally and specifically states the penalty must be assessed and collected "in the same manner as taxes."

Wow, that's a radical ruling.

And what exactly is § 6671 (a)? It a part of the Internal Revenue Code that was there before Obamacare was even created! All Obamacare did was point to it, and say "use that."

So why weren't Americans enraged about how § 6671 (a) equates the treatment of penalties as taxes before Obamacare?

People can disagree with him if they want, but how the hell can anyone say Roberts is "legislating from the bench" when he simply repeats back pre-existing tax law that Obamacare references for itself? Of course, the answer to that question is simple - no one actually looked up the laws before they decided that their country had been "destroyed." Yet they're ready to fight a "revolution" over it!

A revolution for what - to make new laws that they still won't read?

If you want to get angry, get angry about how the other eight Justices didn't point out this simple fact about penalties already being treated as taxes. After all, that's what judges are supposed to do - right? Point out what the law is, rather than what anyone wants it to be? Right? And isn't that exactly what the Chief Justice did here?

Maybe that's why he's Chief Justice - he gets to read the actual laws. Maybe all the other Justices have to listen to the media to find out how they should rule.

How Chief Justice Roberts Saved America

7 posted on 07/10/2012 1:36:11 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: kathsua

Our law schools are churning out feces by the ton. Conservative lawyers and judges are getting very scarce. It is what it is. Twilight’s last gleaming.


8 posted on 07/10/2012 1:36:50 PM PDT by Dogbert41 ("...The people of Jerusalem are strong, because the Lord Almighty is their God" Zech. 12:5)
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I agree it's time to vote to determine who serves on the Supreme Court.

We are not a Democracy.

9 posted on 07/10/2012 1:43:34 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: kathsua

It’s obviously time to adjust the Chief Justice’s meds!!


10 posted on 07/10/2012 1:46:13 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: kathsua

Townhall mag/website itself is not concerned with the Constitution being followed either, so who are they to act offended. They actively censor the eligibility issue and are as responsible for Obama as anyone since they are complicit in the fraud.


11 posted on 07/10/2012 1:46:53 PM PDT by kreitzer
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To: Talisker
People can disagree with him if they want, but how the hell can anyone say Roberts is "legislating from the bench"...

Because that is EXACTLY what the majority did in this case despite your very hair splitting protestations to the contrary! As the referenced article says "If a majority of the Justices believe the individual mandate isn't authorized by the commerce clause upon which the law is based, then any requirement for insurance purchases is unconstitutional. It doesn't matter if Congress could have made the requirement under another provision of the Constitution. If Congress calls a charge a "penalty" then the Court can only consider whether or not that penalty is in accord with the Constitution. The Chief Justice cannot change the word penalty to the word "tax" to make the law valid."

12 posted on 07/10/2012 1:49:43 PM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: Diogenesis

Romney is likely a Roberts Republican.


13 posted on 07/10/2012 1:52:33 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: kathsua

OK. Roberts has gone off his nut. This guy needs to be put back in the private sector. The problem is that Obama would choose his replacement. The fact about that would be that he would probably choose Roberts.


14 posted on 07/10/2012 2:00:17 PM PDT by History Repeats (Drink plenty of TEA, but avoid the Koolaid.)
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I agree it’s time to vote to determine who serves on the Supreme Court.

John Roberts would have been voted in. He was loved as the pick by GW especially from FREEPERS. I had some doubt and mentioned them and of course called a troll, but people thought he was a great pick at the time. I have no doubt that he would have been voted in by Republicans for sure.


15 posted on 07/10/2012 2:04:51 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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16 posted on 07/10/2012 2:11:17 PM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Gun free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: Talisker
"The question here is whether Congress would have wanted the rest of the Act to stand, had it known that States would have a genuine choice whether to participate in the new Medicaid expansion. Unless it is “evident” that the answer is no, we must leave the rest of the Act intact. Champlin Refining Co. v. Corporation Comm’n of Okla., 286 U. S. 210, 234 (1932). We are confident that Congress would have wanted to preserve the rest of the Act."

Congress knowingly left a severability provision out of the Act. Roberts should know better unless he was in collusion with Zer0, Pelosi and Reid.

17 posted on 07/10/2012 2:30:02 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Talisker

You shouldn’t worry however since apparently there isn’t anyone currently in congress with the stomach to take on the out of control judiciary.


18 posted on 07/10/2012 2:33:59 PM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: kathsua

19 posted on 07/10/2012 2:59:03 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Talisker
"...another respect. What is absolutely clear, affirmed by the text of the 1789 Constitution, by the Tenth Amendment ratified in 1791, and by innumerable cases of ours in the 220 years since, is that there are structural limits upon federal power—upon what it can prescribe with respect to private conduct, and upon what it can impose upon the sovereign States. Whatever may be the conceptual limits upon the Commerce Clause and upon the power to tax and spend, they cannot be such as will enable the Federal Government to regulate all private conduct and to compel the States to function as administrators of federal programs.

That clear principle carries the day here."

Roberts goes against the Constitution and the will of the People.

20 posted on 07/10/2012 3:03:29 PM PDT by Paladin2
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