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20 Republicans set to uphold controversial UN treaty
Examiner ^ | 7/9/2012 | July 9, 2012

Posted on 07/11/2012 6:24:39 AM PDT by IbJensen

Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are pushing two controversial UN treaties that the U.S. Senate will consider this month.

Upon the advice of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, President Obama has confirmed his intention to sign two controversial U.N. treaties -- the Law of the Sea Treaty (LOST) and the so called "small arms" treaty.

Although many citizens and elected representatives are sounding the alarm about the small arms treaty, such as this entry Sunday at the Daily Paul, some political observers note that the treaty is unlikely to pass the Senate. But a very different scenario is developing for the Law of the Sea.

Twenty Republican senators are set to join with Democrats in upholding LOST. Some who are included in the list of 20 are those who have not yet decided how they will vote on the issue. Thus, the list of 20 includes those who have either declared support for LOST or declined to indicate their views on the subject one way or the other

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The U.S. Constitution grants authority to presidents to enter into treaty agreements with other nations and entities. But due to the fact that a treaty, if approved, becomes the law of the land, the U.S. Senate must approve by an exact two-thirds majority rather than the simple supermajority of 60 votes. This means that 67 votes are needed in the Senate to approve a treaty.

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The 20 Republicans who are apparently set to uphold the treaty, or who have not yet decided, are Enzi, McConnell, Hutchison, Toomey, Johanns, Ayotte, Graham, McCain, Lugar, Kirk, Snowe, Collins, Murkowski, Isakson, Grassley, Portman, Corker, Cochran, Brown, and Alexander.

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The small arms treaty, on the other hand, is facing a much more difficult task in gaining the approval of the Senate.

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KEYWORDS: lost; republicratinsanity; tratorrinos; turncoats
Remember that the 20 Senators in question can have their minds changed if citizens pressure them. What we are looking for is for them to go ON THE RECORD as opposing these two treaties. I heard that this afternoon, Sen. McConnell has stated he will vote NO! This is proof that the pressure is working. Keep it up! 19 to go, my friends. Let's get busy.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2011/06/07/u-n-agreement-should-have-all-gun-owners-up-in-arms/

http://www.redstate.com/checkmate2012/2012/06/12/20-republican-senators-are-still-lost-at-sea-please-sign-the-letter-asap-and-do-your-job/

1 posted on 07/11/2012 6:24:47 AM PDT by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2905006/posts


2 posted on 07/11/2012 6:27:05 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: All

In the photo, Paneta looks as though he’s LOST at sea.

Hillary may have sat on a whoopie cushion, then again she may not have.

Bozo thinks that he head something, but fortunately has lost his olfactory capability.

These people belong in a zoo and certainly not at the highest levels of a failing nation!


3 posted on 07/11/2012 6:27:17 AM PDT by IbJensen (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: IbJensen

Unfortunately, Richard Lugar is one of them. I don’t think he is bothering to answer his calls any more.


4 posted on 07/11/2012 6:28:14 AM PDT by MustKnowHistory
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To: caver

I used the check mechanism and nothing came up. Oh, well this article has a photo of the three stooges.


5 posted on 07/11/2012 6:29:23 AM PDT by IbJensen (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: MustKnowHistory

Lugar is toast so he can show his true colors, which should have been apparent to Hoosier voters for thirty years!


6 posted on 07/11/2012 6:31:07 AM PDT by IbJensen (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: IbJensen

“Portman”

One on romney’s a-list for vp? Why am I not surprised. Mittens will be the death of us all in the end.


7 posted on 07/11/2012 6:36:36 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: IbJensen

http://law.justia.com/constitution/us/article-2/19-constitutional-limitations-on-treaty-power.html


8 posted on 07/11/2012 6:37:51 AM PDT by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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To: IbJensen

Toomey

Why am I not surprised....lol. And FREEPERS find him conservative. ROTFLMAO. I have told people so many times that he is not but will this wake them up? NO!!!


9 posted on 07/11/2012 6:39:11 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: IbJensen

Hey, I just got off the phone with Isackson’s office and they confirmed the Senator is voting AGAINST both treaties.


10 posted on 07/11/2012 6:39:20 AM PDT by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: IbJensen

It never hurts to get this topic out multiple times.


11 posted on 07/11/2012 6:40:05 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: IbJensen
I heard that this afternoon, Sen. McConnell has stated he will vote NO! This is proof that the pressure is working.

Awwwww, so cute! You actually BELIEVE a politician's promises? Look honey, here's another one! LOL

12 posted on 07/11/2012 6:43:54 AM PDT by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: IbJensen
And there folks is the game.

Cowards all. Yet the majority of the GOP will say “We have to reelect them, the alternative is worse!”

13 posted on 07/11/2012 6:44:32 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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I am contacting Ayotte of NH.


14 posted on 07/11/2012 6:44:56 AM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: IbJensen

People should also tell conservative radio talk show hosts. A might megaphone is pretty helpful too.


15 posted on 07/11/2012 6:46:58 AM PDT by PghBaldy (I eagerly await the next news about the struggles of Elizabeth Sacheen Littlefeather Warren.)
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To: AlmaKing
I am contacting Ayotte of NH.

You screwed up BIG TIME with this one, Governor Palin...this 'mama grizzly' is really a 'soviet bear'...

16 posted on 07/11/2012 6:48:34 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: who knows what evil?

What are your concerns with Ayotte?


17 posted on 07/11/2012 6:51:17 AM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: MustKnowHistory

Same with KayBailey! Seems like a lot of “soon ex-Senators” are amoung the 20. How nice of them to spit on our Big Mac as they go out the door.


18 posted on 07/11/2012 6:53:32 AM PDT by X-spurt (It is truly time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: IbJensen

There’s a good chance Kirk will jot vote at all since he’s recovering from a severe stroke.


19 posted on 07/11/2012 6:58:25 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: IbJensen

The one for sure who won’t yield to pressure is the old Hoosier former favorite, Lugar.


20 posted on 07/11/2012 7:05:41 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Past is prologue: The American people again let us down in this election cycle.)
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To: IbJensen

Don’t forget Palin was and maybe still is for the LOST treaty.

You can google it for yourselves. I just don’t want to take time out to do it anymore.


21 posted on 07/11/2012 7:08:58 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: X-spurt

Like many in TX, KBH believes, as she was taught in high school civics, in the importance of treaties to “keep the peace.” They didn’t tell her one has to read the details of the treaty. For so many, just a treaty itself is sufficient.


22 posted on 07/11/2012 7:09:44 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Past is prologue: The American people again let us down in this election cycle.)
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To: Theodore R.

Just dropped the Cheerleader a note on our displeasure at the report of her considering voting for this crap.

Not sure it’ll matter. Maybe she’s PO’d that Texas is not going to elect her Dewhurst buddie.


23 posted on 07/11/2012 7:19:57 AM PDT by X-spurt (It is truly time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: X-spurt

I’ve contacted both of my senators
Kay baily is a lost cause, and always has been. I wish she left a long time ago.
I can’t believe she sh*t hole she is leaving to her children/grandchildren.


24 posted on 07/11/2012 7:37:58 AM PDT by sunny48
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To: X-spurt

I think KBH will be very bored retired in little Nacogdoches. She is too used to the limelight, but I guess she can adjust ... or run for governor in 2014.


25 posted on 07/11/2012 7:43:11 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Past is prologue: The American people again let us down in this election cycle.)
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To: X-spurt

I wouldn’t count Dewhurst out at all. He has the support of all but one Republican state senator. People in TX have at least mostly heard of him, and that means a lot.


26 posted on 07/11/2012 7:45:15 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Past is prologue: The American people again let us down in this election cycle.)
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To: IbJensen

Why is the media not covering this story? If it wasn’t for FR, I wouldn’t know anything about it.


27 posted on 07/11/2012 7:47:54 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: X-spurt

I’ve emailed her and called. I’m trying to get all my family to do the same...


28 posted on 07/11/2012 7:49:36 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: AlmaKing

Ayottte is a major Juan McPain worshipper and desires to be the Romney VP. She has no money or clout, just ovaries and a red “power” jacket outfit to look the part. Ayotte does what the money masters tell her, just like the other TEA party darling ovary carrying turn coat Nikki Haley...

Watch Juan McPain, that is exacatly what red power coat loser Ayotte will do too.


29 posted on 07/11/2012 7:58:28 AM PDT by Article10 (Roger That)
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To: AlmaKing

Well, here’s one...


30 posted on 07/11/2012 8:02:26 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: IbJensen

Damn republican traitors. Name and shame these bastards. Let them know we won’t let them rest if they vote for this pos!


31 posted on 07/11/2012 8:08:15 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: IbJensen
The U.S. Constitution grants authority to presidents to enter into treaty agreements with other nations and entities. But due to the fact that a treaty, if approved, becomes the law of the land, the U.S. Senate must approve by an exact two-thirds majority rather than the simple supermajority of 60 votes. This means that 67 votes are needed in the Senate to approve a treaty

Actually, according to Article II, Section 2:

"He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two-thirds of the Senators present concur;"

With a Quorum of 51, just 34 "yes" votes are needed--not 67. That makes a huge difference, and it easy enough for Harry Reid to accomplish--as long as he doesn't have enough opposition standing against it (middle of the night or holiday recess anyone?) I surely hope the Repubs are watching him like a hawk!

32 posted on 07/11/2012 8:10:49 AM PDT by Shelayne (Even so, come quickly, Lord Jesus!)
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To: IbJensen

Well, for the most part, these 20 are the usual suspects. But note Portman on there, whom the Repub establishment and many Dems (which is a red flag) are trying to spoon-feed us as a Romney running mate. He and Pawlenty are the two worst ones I can think of in terms of winning possibility.


33 posted on 07/11/2012 8:15:57 AM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!!)
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To: IbJensen
Graham, McCain, Lugar, Kirk, Snowe, Collins, Murkowski

Gosh! What a surprise!

Donkephants all!

34 posted on 07/11/2012 8:35:10 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: IbJensen

why are stories like this past off to Bloggers?


35 posted on 07/11/2012 8:55:50 AM PDT by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: who knows what evil?

“You screwed up BIG TIME with this one, Governor Palin...this ‘mama grizzly’ is really a ‘soviet bear’...”

yes, I’m curious what you mean as well. She’s another one that’s getting talked up right now as possible VP pick.


36 posted on 07/11/2012 9:27:16 AM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!!)
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To: freeangel
“Portman”

One on romney’s a-list for vp? Why am I not surprised. Mittens will be the death of us all in the end.

The establishment wants both of these treaties pretty bad. LOST has been hanging over the world like a spectre of death and destruction for decades now. The PTB understand that if they just wait long enough, their socialist goals will be implemented regardless of how the people of this country feel about it. I expect it to pass during the lame duck session, Romney may make noises against it, but in the end, he'll do nothing to stop it. Lost is a major agenda item of the globalists in the demopublican party. It's going to happen eventually.

The small arms treaty will most likely be voted down as a 'bone' to those who would otherwise take more heat for their LOST vote.

Remember folks, vote for Romney, because he and the party he represents want to destroy your liberty a little slower than the other guy!

37 posted on 07/11/2012 10:18:30 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: IbJensen

OMG, NO!


38 posted on 07/11/2012 10:56:48 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: llandres

I Think he is refering to Ayotte. Palin screwed NH conservatives and conservatives in general by supporting Ayotte in the primary versus Ovide Lamontange in the Senate Race 2010. Ovide has zero RINO tendancies....Ayotte is a RINO. Big difference. Palin definately chose the wrong candidate, in fact Ayotte barely won the primary due mostly to.....Palins endorsement. So for us NH Conservatives...Palin screwed us by enabling the Ayotte/McPain/John Sununu wing of the NH RINO party... Yes the Palin candidate won (ayotte), but.... a RINO, ala Nikki Haley... Had Ovide Lamontange won instead of Ayotte, this vote by a NH Senator Lamanange would not be an issue but NH Senator Ayotte is a RINO vote....two women supported by Palin that are confirmed RINO’s hmmmmmmmm Palin worshipers flame on...facts are interesting and stuborn things.


39 posted on 07/11/2012 11:20:28 AM PDT by Article10 (Roger That)
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To: llandres
She’s another one that’s getting talked up right now as possible VP pick.

Two NE RINO's running things...what could possibly go wrong?

40 posted on 07/11/2012 12:21:10 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Article10

Jim DeMint was right, Palin was wrong.


41 posted on 07/11/2012 12:23:52 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: who knows what evil?

mighty quiet in “Palin ville”..... I expected at least flaming reply from a Palin supporter


42 posted on 07/11/2012 12:38:52 PM PDT by Article10 (Roger That)
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To: Theodore R.
State Senators don't mean doodly squat. Ask anyone who their State Senator is and damn few will know.

The only folks who will be voting in the runoff are hardcore. Maybe a bit more here in Smith County as we have a pretty hot High Sheriffs race runoff too.

How big an impression did the “Senators” endorsement make on you?

Was originally a bit on the fence until I dug into the facts on dirty-dog Cruz helping the Chinese rip off a poor US businessman. That told me all I needed to know about Dewhurst. I'm OK with Dewhurst as Lite Gov. his half RINO compromising works better there.

43 posted on 07/11/2012 2:45:39 PM PDT by X-spurt (It is truly time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: Irenic

Takes 2/3rds to Rat a treaty. I suspect that GOP 20 was some significant level of MSM dem-spin. In this climate I think the dems will have a real tough time getting 15 Pubbies to walk the plank. More likely some dems will jump ship on nobama/hitlery.


44 posted on 07/11/2012 2:57:10 PM PDT by X-spurt (It is truly time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2568313/posts

http://usforeignpolicy.about.com/b/2008/10/15/palin-supports-law-of-the-sea-treaty.htm


45 posted on 07/11/2012 3:27:35 PM PDT by IbJensen (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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