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What I Miss About America
American Thinker ^ | July 12, 2012 | Stella Paul

Posted on 07/12/2012 8:18:36 AM PDT by Trafalgar123

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To: andy58-in-nh

I miss the days when I trusted our media more than the foreign media.


21 posted on 07/12/2012 10:29:08 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: central_va
+1

I miss my old Pontiac, which had a 455, a 4-bbl Holley, a nice Hurst shifter and ran well on cheap gas, which we still had lots of back then...

22 posted on 07/12/2012 10:37:07 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Trafalgar123
I went to visit my son at Boy Scout camp last night for family night. They had a camp fire for about 500 people - about 150 Scouts. We said the Pledge, sang some songs, they did some skits, recited the ideals of Scouting, gave thanks to their leaders, families and to God.

To see these boys and young men following in this age old tradition, learning real life skills and values while having simple fun, and hopefully on their ways to becoming future leaders in society and this country was really moving. I'm pretty bullish on America today.

23 posted on 07/12/2012 10:42:17 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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To: central_va

May I add to your great list REAR Wheel Drive!


24 posted on 07/12/2012 10:43:43 AM PDT by GOYAKLA (Recall/ Impeachment Day, November 6, 2012. FUBO, same for RINOs)
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To: dfwgator
I miss the days when I trusted our media more than the foreign media.

I can't say I ever really trusted our media, but there was a time when listening to the foreign language service of Radio Tirana on shortwave radio was a real hoot; and I mean a knee-slapping good old time because it was so blatantly phony and transparently tendentious. No one in their right mind would actually believe that tripe about Dear Leader's heroic exploits fighting shadowy "reactionary forces" so that the bounty of this year's record-breaking grain harvest might be delivered safely to the People.

Today, I can't always tell the difference between that sort of stuff and what I hear on MSNBC.

25 posted on 07/12/2012 10:51:39 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

Yep I used to listen to Radio Tirana, Radio Moscow, Radio Havana Cuba, et al back in the day, and I agree, it is a lot like watching MSNBC or CNN.


26 posted on 07/12/2012 11:31:24 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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Well, in my lifetime REAGAN was incredibly honorable and dignified. Even Gorbachev respected him, and to such an extent it felled the USSR.


27 posted on 07/12/2012 11:35:02 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Reagan was a brief respite.


28 posted on 07/12/2012 11:36:02 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: savagesusie
Culture and Values should be transmitted by parents and family—never TV and strangers and atheists

Sometimes parents and family are atheists, and those are the values they transmit. Just sayin'

29 posted on 07/12/2012 1:31:21 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Melas

Christian values were the dominant values in all public schools and media in the USA up until Dewey and the 50’s....Our legal system was corrupted to allow obscenity in the public square, laws to eject morality (John Austin), and agitprop/atheism/Marxism in elite universities (teachers) to corrupt the minds of the “educated” and they removed God—mocked Him and anyone who would be Christian. We saw that generation become the Atheist Communists in the 60’s and infiltrate and destroy all our institutions from within.

Political Correctness is Marxism (Mao) and removes the freedom of speech—to only allow Marxist ideas in the marketplace-—(sodomy “rights”, Class warfare (capitalism is evil), Group Identity politics to destroy unity—cause racism, hatred and chaos—some are more equal than others— Charity is forced by government, etc.)

There were always atheist parents who did crappy jobs-—but the schools would teach Virtue (Christian ethics) anyway-—parents used to chase out teachers who were Communist/atheists and we never allowed Judges who were “atheists” since they wouldn’t uphold our Natural Rights from God. Since they believe in No God-—they believe in “Rights” from Satan (sodomy and stealing and special rights for some, and destruction of marriage laws, and property rights).

Christian Ethics were dominate in the public square and schools-—until the 70’s when all traces were removed from tv and schools and moral relativism (atheism) replaced Moral Absolutes (God).

Now Godless children have no chance-—they become the ACORN thugs and OWS drones who can’t use logic and reason since they know nothing about history and Adam Smith and Hayek and their foundation of knowledge—such as sodomy is good and there is man-caused global warming-—is built on lies and “feelings” and agitprop.


30 posted on 07/12/2012 4:18:27 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: savagesusie

So, I’m curious, do you see any place at all for unbelievers in this society?


31 posted on 07/12/2012 5:03:01 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Melas

Since our Natural Rights come from God-—only-—and never—man—I think that jurists and congressmen and the President (as our Founders thought) will always have to have Judeo/Christian worldview or at least uphold that worldview. The Supreme Law of the USA is the Constitution which can only exist and work with the Judeo-Christian God and His Standards of Right and Wrong (not Barney Frank’s sick standards).

That atheists and agnostics exist-—that is the wonder of Judeo-Christian belief-—Free Will. It has always been—although atheism was disparaged in our country until 1950’s and Marxist infiltration. Our Rights come from God and is incompatible with Marxist ideology which destroys the Natural Family and private property and makes slaves of all. Children are denied their natural rights to have their biological parents and not used like objects.

Since Faith in No God takes way more bizarre thinking than a belief in a Designer of Human Nature-—I think Atheists do not belong as teachers in elementary schools. Natural Law Theory (belief in a Designer) is the origin of Logic and Reason and is why Western Civ became so brilliant. As Ayn Rand said—German Postmodernists (all leftist ideology) are irrational. There is no logic and reason when you deny Natural Law Theory as Marxists do.

Atheists can teach in colleges, but not without freedom to debate all ideas, such as homosexual marriage, evolution, and (that pederast John Maynard Keynes) collective economics. Now, our universities are fascist organizations, using BF Skinner psychology and Legal Positivism to create useful idiots and eliminate Christian Ethics. Without logic-—”up will be down” and other absurdities like Wicca, and kids believe it—such as Heather has two Mommies or two men can “marry” or boys are girls are dogs.

The Bible is/was the standard of right and wrong in our schools up until Dewey threw out the McGuffey Readers and replaced all curricula with moral relativism. All the Founders knew that without Virtue, there can never be freedom—and children need to be given a foundation based on Christian Ethics since it is the only compatible Ethical system which supports the Supreme Law of the Land. Atheists used to learn those Christian Standards since they were living in a Christian nation. If Atheists were moral, it was because of their Christian Ethics they practiced.

That we are Post-Christian is obvious—they quit promoting Christian Values in all movies and curricula by the 1970’s and Marxist “feel good, do it” is promoted with the resulting Godless, inhumane culture. Godless people create havoc and destroy order in civil society. They have no respect for anyone or private property, because they don’t see the dignity and worth that God gives all human beings. Collectivism/atheism sees people as drones, consumers-—a ?means to an end”—which means they can eliminate whomever-—it is always evil.

Christianity teaches individuality-—each person has dignity and worth—it is the underlying principle of the US Constitution and individual freedom. Marxism/atheism is alway eliminates individual worth and dignity, which is incompatible with our Constitution. Only God gives human beings worth and dignity—ALL people.


32 posted on 07/12/2012 6:26:19 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: savagesusie

Placemark.


33 posted on 07/12/2012 6:50:55 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Melas

ST. Thomas Aquinas infused Natural Law Theory, which dates back to the ancient Greeks and Stoics, into Catholic Theology. The basis of Christianity, besides Christ, is Natural Law Theory (God created the World) (same as with our U.S. Constitution). It is in line with the “thinking” of John Locke—whose philosophy was the predominate ideology of our Founders and our Constitution. Christianity is the most rational religion—as Dinesh Di’Souza illustrates in his book. Religions that are in conflict with our Constitutional Rights should not be recognized—like Wicca, etc. The Founders would “laugh” if they saw the irrational and stupid decisions of our courts and Congress and President. (It is to destroy us from within—Marxists have to destroy Reason and Logic and God).

The Rule of Law-—SHOULD be based on ‘Right Reason according to Nature’. It is the only way you can make Just Law—with logic and reason. If you make law which conflicts with the Laws of Nature, you create chaos—you need totalitarian government to force this unnatural law. (Like taking away people’s private property or taking away their duty to take care of their own children or their right to reproduce and own what they produce—and not have a master).

Irrational Marxists throw out Natural Law Theory (Reason and Logic) so you get two men can marry, little boys are really girls, government can be your nanny, charity is charity even if there is a gun held by IRS at the back of your head. Might makes Right===whatever they say is good is good—because they make up the standards on NOTHING. Power over others wins and there is no Right and Wrong. Without a standard, there can be no civil society—no economy, no protected children and private property. Everyone lives in fear and can’t trust anyone-—there is no Rule of Law-—just Rule of Man. Without God, there is no Standard of Right and Wrong. It is like playing a basketball game with no rules-—won’t be possible.

Our legal system no longer has “Just Laws”. They are posited with no rational thinking—no reason and logic-—because there can be none in minds which don’t believe in a Designer of Nature—the basis of Natural Law Theory—where all the Laws of Nature —such as gravity, physics, etc—were derived.

Since John Austin’s ideology displaced our Rule of Law—with Rule of Barney Frank (man)—we no longer have a rational government or reasoned laws. We are heading toward anarchy-—same as what Cicero saw when Rome dumped Rule of Law-—and sold special rights and money to friends and relatives and political backers. If we don’t impeach our Godless judges, we will no longer be a country with Rule of Law. Laws have to be Null and Void—as John Marshall stated—if they are in conflict with the meaning and intention of the Constitution of the U.S.

With no God—there is no consistent standard of Right and Wrong-—it is the whims of whomever has the power, no matter how irrational and evil. Absolute Power always corrupts. History proves it. Atheism leads to the abyss and nihilism—even Nietzsche knew that. Our governments only safeguard is that our Natural Rights come from God—inconsistent with atheists/communists/wiccan/muslims, etc.


34 posted on 07/12/2012 7:42:06 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: savagesusie

All those paragraphs just to say that unbelievers should be second class citizens in your opinion.


35 posted on 07/12/2012 8:45:38 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Melas

Well, if you think that is all I stated in my explanation of Natural Law and Rule of Law and the Constitution and importance of philosophy—oh well.

You must think that we should dispense with all oaths for office, then-—HOW SILLY to think that philosophy means anything.

Even Marxists know how important philosophy and worldview is—that is why they took over education and the media-—you must be a product of their agitprop—knowledge and wisdom and history is meaningless—feelings trump intellect.

As I said-—without God, we have no Rights. That is the basis of our American legal system. Atheism is incompatible—as the Founders knew—with our Constitution. It is based on a Higher Power.

The Marxist in Chief is eliminating God (forcing abortion and sodomy in the military and destruction of marriage)—so he can destroy the Constitution (and America)—if you hadn’t noticed.

It is all about Worldview. Ex-Communist W. Chambers put it in his book, “Witness”—There is a war going on — God vs. Man and he was afraid man was winning (1954). With the Communist in the White House—the destruction is almost completed.


36 posted on 07/12/2012 10:50:57 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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Well, if you think that is all I stated in my explanation of Natural Law and Rule of Law and the Constitution and importance of philosophy—oh well.

Pretty much. At heart, I'm a brass tacks kinda guy. All the religion and all the philosophy in the world is pretty meaningless unless you actually do something with it. In this case, I was just trying to get a feel of where all this religious philosophy was going. I got my answer.

You must think that we should dispense with all oaths for office, then-—HOW SILLY to think that philosophy means anything.

"I do solemnly swear or affirm..." works pretty well. I seem to remember a fairly important oath that began with just that very option.

As I said-—without God, we have no Rights. That is the basis of our American legal system. Atheism is incompatible—as the Founders knew—with our Constitution. It is based on a Higher Power.

You can't force belief, not even upon yourself. I see no reason to burden any man because his religious conscience doesn't toe the party line. You obviously disagree. I honestly don't see where this discussion could go further. I got the answer to my one simple question.

37 posted on 07/12/2012 11:08:25 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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