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Michigan court rules in favor of teen who open carried rifle
monachuslex.com ^ | 12 July, 2012 | John Pierce

Posted on 07/12/2012 4:14:36 PM PDT by marktwain

Sean M. Combs is only 18 but he already knows more about civil rights and Michigan gun laws than the officers who arrested him in April for carrying an antique M1 Garand rifle slung over his shoulder.

The two officers, Rebekah Springer and Gina Potts, saw Combs carrying the rifle in Troy Michigan and demanded his ID. When he refused, noting that he was not violating any laws, he was arrested and charged with Brandishing, Disturbing the Peace, and Obstructing an Officer.

I have written before about the misuse of these “catch-all” charges to chill the rights of citizens and this case appears no different.

The officers based the Disturbing the Peace and Obstructing an Officer charges on the fact that Combs “looked younger than 18″ and his refusal to produce ID “attracted a crowd.” They based the Brandishing charge on the fact that Combs, while having the rifle properly slung and never pointing it, seemed “ostentatious.”

I have to wonder if it wasn’t the officer’s behavior that drew the crowd. The facts show that Combs and his girlfriend had walked around the business district for some time without drawing a crowd before officers stopped him. And while we are wondering, do you suppose they think that “ostentatious” means “not doing what I tell him to do?”

In any case, it no longer matters because the seven person jury slapped the wrist of law enforcement today by finding him not guilty of all charges. They stated that Combs had broken no law and they were simply upholding the law by doing so. I am proud of the jury for doing the right thing in this case.

Perhaps Michigan law enforcement needs to retrain officers on the legality of long-gun open carry as well as when they can and cannot demand ID from a citizen absent probable cause that a crime is being committed.

Congratulations to Sean for winning his court case and a big “Thank You!” for being willing to stand up for the rights of all Michigan residents. I wish him all the best as he now turns to his next challenge; starting college next month.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: banglist; combs; mi; opencarry
The seven person jury did the right thing. More juries need to be informed of their rights and responsibilities.
1 posted on 07/12/2012 4:14:49 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

This also might be of some interest.

http://www.ammoland.com/2012/05/16/calguns-foundation-defends-innocent-gun-owner-wins-35800-settlement-from-calexico-ca/#axzz20SAfu4hx


2 posted on 07/12/2012 4:18:40 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: marktwain
This image has nothing to do with the Combs case, except that it illustrates open carry.
3 posted on 07/12/2012 4:20:50 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Glad he won. A quibble with the story: “an antique M1 Garand rifle”. M1’s are not antique. Antiques are pre 1899. It is a C and R rifle (curio and relic) With a $30 dollar license (FFL 03) you can have C and R weapons delivered to your door. Not full autos.


4 posted on 07/12/2012 4:21:40 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: marktwain

Carrying like that at the beach could lead to being bitten on the bottom. I see an open cheek. Hey, what are canine teeth for anyway?


5 posted on 07/12/2012 4:26:17 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Fun for women ages 21 through 35)
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To: dynachrome
With a $30 dollar license (FFL 03) And the C^R FFL is valid for five years. Congratulations to young Sean. Poo on the cops. TC
6 posted on 07/12/2012 4:27:41 PM PDT by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: marktwain

Dare I ask where she’s keeping the magazine?


7 posted on 07/12/2012 4:28:42 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: marktwain
"...except that it illustrates open carry."

It most certainly does.

8 posted on 07/12/2012 4:30:28 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: marktwain
This image has nothing to do with the Combs case, except that it illustrates open carry.

The information you have supplied to supplement this discussion is most appreciated.

9 posted on 07/12/2012 4:31:28 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: marktwain

That’s what every woman is trading their purses for.


10 posted on 07/12/2012 4:32:10 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's Welfare, Food Stamps, Division and Disability 'Legacy')
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To: Pentagon Leatherneck; All

” C^R FFL is valid for five years”

Indeed, and if you like WW1 and WW2 weapons try:

http://www.surplusrifleforum.com

for lot’s ‘o info.


11 posted on 07/12/2012 4:34:18 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: marktwain

Not Guilty.


12 posted on 07/12/2012 4:42:29 PM PDT by blam
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To: marktwain

You see a firearm in that picture? Where?


13 posted on 07/12/2012 5:00:19 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Future Snake Eater

M1 has a clip, not a magazine.


14 posted on 07/12/2012 5:04:35 PM PDT by occamrzr06
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To: marktwain

An important area of protecting civil rights and defending the Constitution is for citizens to be fully informed about their rights and obligations as jurors. People cannot generally be convicted of felonies unless sufficient evidence is found by two separate juries, the grand and the petite jury. This gives ordinary citizens two separate opportunities to check runaway government.

see: fija.org


16 posted on 07/12/2012 5:21:09 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: occamrzr06

I know. I’m referring to the bikini chick upthread. She’s carrying a suppressed M4 in green status.


17 posted on 07/12/2012 5:25:53 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Future Snake Eater

I do not think it is suppressed. The leg of the beach chair behind it just makes it appear to be so.


18 posted on 07/12/2012 5:35:00 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Oh yeah, you’re right. If anything, it looks like a short barrel (10in?).


19 posted on 07/12/2012 5:39:12 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: marktwain

I think, maybe, they are Sabras.


20 posted on 07/12/2012 5:45:36 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (Israeli hot beaches-what???? Who knew? .)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Well, crap, my work blocked that picture.

Now it all makes sense.


21 posted on 07/12/2012 6:11:50 PM PDT by occamrzr06
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To: marktwain
Sue the a** of the city and the cops. Hit them with anything and everything you can kid. Bankrupt the city if possible.

This MIGHT send the message to the pigs that just because they say something doesn't make it law.


22 posted on 07/12/2012 6:52:52 PM PDT by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: occamrzr06

I know this is old...but I had to correct this tidbit.

An M1 definitely has a magazine. You insert the en bloc clip into the internal fixed magazine.

All repeating firearms have magazines, whether they are fixed or detachable or utilize a clip during reloading or not or whatever. They still have a magazine.


23 posted on 05/14/2013 11:02:08 AM PDT by BeGe
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