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‘ObamaCare Catch-22': Crushing Fines for Religious Institutions Under Mandate
PJ Media ^ | July 16, 2012 | Bridget Johnson

Posted on 07/16/2012 2:57:55 PM PDT by jazusamo

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1 posted on 07/16/2012 2:58:03 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

Are the Muzzies exempt for Obamacare?


2 posted on 07/16/2012 3:05:39 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: dragonblustar

I’ve read comments that they are but don’t know it for a fact.

With The One we have in the WH I’d bet it’s true.


3 posted on 07/16/2012 3:13:16 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

I’ve heard commercials for medical sharing ministries as being cheaper than insurance AND legal under Obamacare. Couldn’t something similar be set up for Catholics?


4 posted on 07/16/2012 3:16:15 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: jazusamo

Ditto’s I don’t know all the facts either but the copy I did read also included any religion that is opposed to insurance.


5 posted on 07/16/2012 3:17:16 PM PDT by MrKatykelly
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To: dragonblustar

Of course, but you and I will pay for them. They deserve it for being the guiding light of of civilization and morality.

Think of the ones of inventions and scientific discoveries they’ve been responsible for throughout history.

Truly the only greater privilege is the care and feeding of millions of illegals.


6 posted on 07/16/2012 3:19:49 PM PDT by Anvilhead (On the positive side we'll have new stories and heroes.)
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To: jazusamo

The Catholic institutions could stay in operation if they declared that they will employ and serve only sacramentally initiated Catholics. There could be no claim of discrimination and by limiting their mission to initiated Catholics the secular activities will fall totally under the mantle of religious belief.
Of course doing this goes against the mission of the Church. However one way to serve those outside the Church may be the old Salvation Army practice of missionary evangelization before , during, or after the actual service or treatment. No one would be forced use Catholic facilities or programs, but if they chose to do so they would be exposed to Catholic missionary efforts.


7 posted on 07/16/2012 3:22:46 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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8 posted on 07/16/2012 3:24:07 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Bump


9 posted on 07/16/2012 3:30:27 PM PDT by painter (Rebuild The America We love!)
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To: dragonblustar

Of course they are.

They’re also excempt from criminal status for wanting to destroy every other religion protected by the same First Amendment umbrella they’re hiding under.

Logic has completely abandoned our sense of justice.


10 posted on 07/16/2012 3:38:35 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: dragonblustar

I believe they are.


11 posted on 07/16/2012 3:38:47 PM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: dragonblustar; jazusamo

No religious denominations are mentioned by name in the law.
To be exempt, you have to be a member of a denomination which has traditionally opted out of Social Security and Medicare coverage.

The only ones I’ve seen mentioned that currently satisfy this criteria are Amish and Mennonite. For someone looking to “convert” - Mennonite is probably the hot setup since they are allowed to operate machinery and drive vehicles.


12 posted on 07/16/2012 3:46:46 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Crucial

ping to #12


13 posted on 07/16/2012 3:47:51 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: jazusamo
Perhaps all of the church based schools could close on the first day of school this fall and dump all of their students on the public school system. The hospitals could do the same and see how the already bankrupt systems would handle this. It would be a nightmare for sure.

CINO democrats need to be voted out of office!

14 posted on 07/16/2012 3:50:45 PM PDT by mckenzie7 (Democrats = Trough Sloppers!)
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To: jazusamo

Here’s another “thing” in Obammycare that needs fixing!

Always another surprise around the corner on this health care plan..... just in case you hadn’t heard

When does your home become part of your health care? After 2012!

Your vote counts big time in 2012, make sure you and all your friends and family know about this!

HOME SALES TAX

I thought you might find this interesting.

The National Association of Realtors is all over this and working to get it repealed, — before it takes effect. But, I am very pleased we aren’t the only ones who know about this ploy to steal billions from unsuspecting homeowners. How many realtors do you think will vote Democratic in 2012?

Did you know that if you sell your house after 2012 you will pay a 3.8% sales tax on it? That’s $3,800 on a $100,000 home, etc. When did this happen? It’s in the health care bill, — and it goes into effect in 2013. Why 2013? Could it be so that it doesn’t come to light until after the 2012 elections? So, this is ‘change you can believe in’?

Under the new health care bill all real estate transactions will be subject to a 3.8% sales tax.

If you sell a $400,000 home, there will be a $15,200 tax. This bill is set to screw the retiring generation, — who often downsize their homes. Does this make your November, 2012 vote more important?

Oh, you weren’t aware that this was in the ObamaCare bill? Guess what; you aren’t alone! There are more than a few members of Congress that weren’t aware of it either.

You can check this out for yourself at:

http://www.gop.gov/blog/10/04/08/obamacare-flatlines-obamacare-taxes-home


15 posted on 07/16/2012 3:51:22 PM PDT by texson66 (In the words of Kent Brockman, "As for myself, I welcome our new commie overlords...")
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What you posted is grossly incorrect:

http://www.realtor.org/small_business_health_coverage.nsf/pages/health_ref_faq_med_tax?opendocument


16 posted on 07/16/2012 3:54:23 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: dragonblustar

> Are the Muzzies exempt for Obamacare?

As a matter of fact, they are.

So is the Congress and the President and the SCOTUS and the SEIU, and a host of other unions.


17 posted on 07/16/2012 3:54:23 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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As a matter of fact, they are. By my reading of the bill, there is no mention of this.
18 posted on 07/16/2012 3:55:45 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Westbrook
As a matter of fact, they are..

Link please.

By my reading of the bill, there is no mention of this.

19 posted on 07/16/2012 3:56:00 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation

> Mennonite is probably the hot setup since they are allowed
> to operate machinery and drive vehicles.

You cannot join the Mennonites if you are divorced-remarried, unless, of course, you leave your current wife and either live celibately or try to reconcile with your former spouse.

You would also have to give up Social Security and Medicare.


20 posted on 07/16/2012 4:00:50 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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