Dick Morris: Obama to Sign UN Gun-Grab Treaty and RAM IT DOWN OUR THROATS

Reaganite Republican ^ | July 18, 2012 | Reaganite Republican

[Reaganite Republican]

But the Senate will never ratify, you say?

Guess what, they don't need to...

Speaking on Fox and Friends this morning, Dick Morris explained that when the US signs such an international treaty, the nation is bound until the Senate rejects it or the President renounces it. In just nine days from now, the terms of this treaty will be finalized.

Morris went on to say that this heinous agreement -which would in-affect repeal the the Second Amendment and deny us all of the divine right to self-defense- will likely be signed by Obama... then Harry Reid will simply never bring it up for a vote, keeping the ATT treaty in-effect.

Then, if Dear Leader actually manages to win a second term and continues with his ongoing date-rape of this country, he will of course never renounce it, either... meaning we're stuck with it for a minimum of 4.5 years, in which time they'd be able to assault your Second Amendment gun rights relentlessly... a fait acompli

What to do?

Sign this White House petition, which can be loosely translated as "From My Cold, Dead Hands!"... -here- 

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[Gene Eric]

Do votes in the Senate require scheduling and reasonable notification?

[Reaganite Republican]

Thanks again Philman- I truly appreciate the input, research, and opinion.

I can’t dispute much of what you said, but I never, ever thought they’d pass ObamaCare by Reconcilliation nor would the SCOTUS re-write the law in order to force it through in service to Dear Leader, either!

Best err on the side of alarmism, then lol

Enjoy your day, sir

[Reaganite Republican]

“Do votes in the Senate require scheduling and reasonable notification?”

Good question!

The Senate’s own site says the schedule is updated “each day the Senate is in session”... DAILY doesn’t sound too re-assuring to me!

http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/legislative/one_item_and_teasers/Senate_leg_calendar_page.htm

I guess we need those opposed to be there as long as the sesssion is open... even -nay, ESPECIALLY- in the upcoming lame duck sessions, even if Dingy keeps them there pretty much up until Xmas as he did last time

[Reaganite Republican]

“And considering that NO ONE in any seat of power seems to have the courage to stand up to Obama... Where are our principled leaders now? Whether in the Congress, Senate, Military?”
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Well, Obama got Patreus out of the way himself... and the GOP old guard has to this point kept the TEA Party out of positions of substantial influence, that’s where they are.

We’ve got Sheriff Joe, Jim DeMint, Paul Ryan, and a smattering of other stand-up guys/gals... but they are marginalized as ‘extremists’ by not just the left but the lily-livered in our own party as well.

And the bravest -and most threatening to the progs- the Palins, the Bachmanns, the Alan Wests- are systematically destroyed by the Soros machine/MSM before they get anywhere near the place where they can make a real difference.

All the MORE reason for us to KEEP FIGHTING, my friend

[boxlunch]

That’s why I think those that compare these times to the American Revolutionary times are not making a correct comparison. Neither our citizenry, our elected leadership, nor our press have much in common with those days. (I think the thoughts and feelings of our patriots are very similar, but I thinkthe external circumstances are much different.) We are in uncharted territory as to how to get out of this mess. Thank you for posting this- I’m with you -seeing what Obama has done so far, I wouldn’t put it past him to try anything.

[Reaganite Republican]

“Thank you for posting this- I’m with you -seeing what Obama has done so far, I wouldn’t put it past him to try anything.”
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We are of like mind here, BL... and heading into the fall, Obama on the eve of destruction is about as predictable as Bashar Al Assad as he wheels his chemical weapons out of storage- these dictator types don’t take defeat well without dragging half the world down with them

[philman_36]

Do votes in the Senate require scheduling and reasonable notification?
Treaties are handled in Executive Session.

@ Rules of the Senate

@ XXX. EXECUTIVE SESSION - PROCEEDINGS ON TREATIES

1. (a) When a treaty shall be laid before the Senate for ratification, it shall be read a first time; and no motion in respect to it shall be in order, except to refer it to a committee, to print it in confidence for the use of the Senate, or to remove the injunction of secrecy.
(b) When a treaty is reported from a committee with or without amendment, it shall, unless the Senate unanimously otherwise directs, lie over one day for consideration; after which it may be read a second time, after which amendments may be proposed. At any stage of such proceedings the Senate may remove the injunction of secrecy from the treaty.
(c) The decisions thus made shall be reduced to the form of a resolution of ratification, with or without amendments, as the case may be, which shall be proposed on a subsequent day, unless, by unanimous consent, the Senate determine otherwise, at which stage no amendment to the treaty shall be received unless by unanimous consent; but the resolution of ratification when pending shall be open to amendment in the form of reservations, declarations, statements, or understandings.
(d) On the final question to advise and consent to the ratification in the form agreed to, the concurrence of two thirds of the Senators present shall be necessary to determine it in the affirmative; but all other motions and questions upon a treaty shall be decided by a majority vote, except a motion to postpone indefinitely, which shall be decided by a vote of two thirds.

2. Treaties transmitted by the President to the Senate for ratification shall be resumed at the second or any subsequent session of the same Congress at the stage in which they were left at the final adjournment of the session at which they were transmitted; but all proceedings on treaties shall terminate with the Congress, and they shall be resumed at the commencement of the next Congress as if no proceedings had previously been had thereon.

Regarding the injunction of secrecy see Rule XXIX Executive Sessions 2. When acting upon confidential or Executive business, unless the same shall be considered in open Executive session, the Senate Chamber shall be cleared of all persons except the Secretary, the Assistant Secretary, the Principal Legislative Clerk, the Parliamentarian, the Executive Clerk, the Minute and Journal Clerk, the Sergeant at Arms, the Secretaries to the Majority and the Minority, and such other officers as the Presiding Officer shall think necessary; and all such officers shall be sworn to secrecy.
3. All confidential communications made by the President of the United States to the Senate shall be by the Senators and the officers of the Senate kept secret; and all treaties which may be laid before the Senate, and all remarks, votes, and proceedings thereon shall also be kept secret, until the Senate shall, by their resolution, take off the injunction of secrecy.

See also...The Executive Calendar

The Senate's Executive Calendar is updated each day the Senate is in session. The calendar identifies executive resolutions, treaties, and nominations reported out by Senate committee(s) and awaiting Senate floor action. The Executive Calendar is composed of eight sections described below.

Treaties
This section identifies Treaties submitted by the President to the Senate for ratification, placed on the Executive Calendar with a sequentially assigned calendar number and ready for Senate floor consideration.

There is a link to the Calendar there and it is updated daily.
So yes, as I understand it, scheduling and reasonable notification is required. Simply calling for an Executive Session from the floor is a notification.
Someone has to be there to make sure the quorum call isn't rescinded.

I can't stress this enough...Congressional Record OCTOBER 18, 2000

Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
The assistant legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.

Can you see the significance?

[philman_36]

One more point...
Again we have to consider floor action. See above Congressional Record link and specifically page S10658. Mr. THOMAS. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the Senate proceed to executive session to consider the following treaties on today’s Executive Calendar. They will consist of Nos. 20 through 53.
I further ask unanimous consent that the treaties be considered as having passed through their various parliamentary stages up to and including the presentation of the resolutions of ratification; all committee provisos, reservations, understandings, declarations be considered and agreed to; that any statements be printed in the CONGRESSIONAL RECORD as if read; further, that when the resolutions of ratification are voted upon, the motion to reconsider be laid upon the table, the President be notified of the Senate’s action, and that following the disposition of the treaties, the Senate return to legislative session.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. THOMAS. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the clerk report each treaty by title prior to the vote on each treaty, and further I ask for a division vote on each resolution of ratification.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection? Without objection, it is so ordered. The treaties will be considered to have passed through their various parliamentary stages up to and including the presentation of the resolutions of ratification, which the clerk will report.

Mr. Thomas used procedure to bypass the rules...as long as nobody objected, it was allowed.

[philman_36]

One more point and I'm done... ...it shall be read a first time...
Be sure you read that floor comment above... ...be printed in the CONGRESSIONAL RECORD as if read... When this treaty does get brought the first time, and who doubts that it won't be given the propensity of liberals to disarm Americans, this treaty can be printed in the CONGRESSIONAL RECORD as if read as well.
Floor action is very important and procedure can bypass the rules.

[EdReform]

Sigh... I need to go buy another 500 rounds of .308

[Gene Eric]

Thanks. I’ll review this later.

[tx_eggman]

xzins ... do NOT, I repeat, do NOT trifle with philman when the issue is Rules of the Senate.

I had a "terrifying" interaction with him a few days ago ...I haven't been able to go to sleep without the light on since then:

Linky Thing: I first peak philman's interest
Linky Thing: philman responds
Linky Thing: I point out philman's anal/ocd tendencies
Linky Thing: philman gets his panties in a wad
Linky Thing: philman wasn't done yet
Linky Thing: I answer philman's question
Linky Thing: The end of the trail - philman's life is good

Phil, keep up the good work.

[philman_36]

Phil, keep up the good work.
Thanks.
Keep working on your comedy routine. It's in serious trouble.

[Reaganite Republican]

Lesson learned!

lol

[Perseverando]

CW2 bump!!