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Dick Morris: Obama to Sign UN Gun-Grab Treaty and RAM IT DOWN OUR THROATS
Reaganite Republican ^ | July 18, 2012 | Reaganite Republican

Posted on 07/18/2012 4:24:53 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican

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1 posted on 07/18/2012 4:24:59 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican
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To: Reaganite Republican

I smell a revolution


2 posted on 07/18/2012 4:29:29 AM PDT by dubyajam ("Life is Hard ... It's Even Harder When you're Stupid" --- John Wayne)
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To: Reaganite Republican

“Drink will flow and blood will spill, and if the boys wanna fight you better let ‘em”

Y’all don’t want to play this game in Texas and much of the South and West. It will be a hell of a fight, and I am sure much of the enforcers of such a set of rules will be no where to be found.

We are moving the other direction in Red State America.


3 posted on 07/18/2012 4:31:31 AM PDT by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com -- OpenCarry.org)
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To: dubyajam

All of his moves seem to be pushing our buttons pretty hard. He wants a confrontation.


4 posted on 07/18/2012 4:32:58 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Any American cop or soldier who participates in confiscating arms must hold his life cheap. And that’s the way it ought to be.


5 posted on 07/18/2012 4:39:36 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: Reaganite Republican
He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties

This is a serious issue, but I think Morris overstates this.

There is no way that a treaty could be found legally binding if it has not gone through the Senate.

Preventing it going through the Senate simply means that it has not met the 2/3rds requirement of Senate approval.

6 posted on 07/18/2012 4:40:55 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Reaganite Republican
  It shouldn't be a valid treaty. I think Obama would have to actually be a citizen for the treaty to hold.   :)
7 posted on 07/18/2012 4:41:15 AM PDT by Maurice Tift (You can't stop the signal, Mal. You can never stop the signal.)
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To: Maurice Tift

I hope they try to take my weapons, they will get them bullets first.


8 posted on 07/18/2012 4:44:38 AM PDT by tom paine 2
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To: Reaganite Republican

Utter Nonsense.
The only way you repeal the 2nd Amendment is by force of arms (use of military troops. The citizen of this Country are not going to willingly comply with a UN treaty. The Police are not capable of taking our weapons from us and I truly believe here would be open revolt if the military was ordered to do so. So what> The UN is going to send UN troops in? Get serious.......


9 posted on 07/18/2012 4:45:19 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Paging John Boehner!


10 posted on 07/18/2012 4:47:09 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: dubyajam

I second it. It will happen. People will simply “hide” their guns, no doubt.


11 posted on 07/18/2012 4:48:28 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Even if Barry is re elected there is an excellent chance the Republicans will take the Senate. Their first order of business would be to schedule a vote on the treaty.


12 posted on 07/18/2012 4:48:37 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: SECURE AMERICA
2nd Amendment

2nd Amendment of what I ask?

13 posted on 07/18/2012 4:48:48 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: listenhillary

“All of his moves seem to be pushing our buttons pretty hard. He wants a confrontation.”

Astute observation- these narcissists types like Pol Pot and Hitler are always more than willing to leave a smoking ruins rather than face defeat and go away quietly


14 posted on 07/18/2012 4:49:16 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican
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To: SECURE AMERICA

“Utter Nonsense.
The only way you repeal the 2nd Amendment is by force of arms (use of military troops. The citizen of this Country are not going to willingly comply with a UN treaty. The Police are not capable of taking our weapons from us and I truly believe here would be open revolt if the military was ordered to do so. So what> The UN is going to send UN troops in? Get serious.......”

The UN is simply NOT the strong-arm organization that it claims it is.


15 posted on 07/18/2012 4:50:00 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: listenhillary
I counsel caution. Obama is indeed attempting to push a revolt to give him the excuse to suspend the Constitution, invoke Martial Law and stop the elections.

He knows in the forthcoming eleciton, he and his pet RATS are going to get their heads handed to them. His only option is to prevent the electoral process from proceeding.

16 posted on 07/18/2012 4:50:36 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Obama will never sign such a document BEFORE the next election. He’s a libtard, but isn’t totally brain-dead when it comes to his political survival.


17 posted on 07/18/2012 4:50:52 AM PDT by Smedley (It's a sad day for American capitalism when a man can't fly a midget on a kite over Central Park)
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To: tsowellfan

The USA Constitution!


18 posted on 07/18/2012 4:51:14 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: saganite
Even if Barry is re elected there is an excellent chance the Republicans will take the Senate.

If Barry is re elected there will be no need for a Senate. They will be in recession when Obama says they are.

19 posted on 07/18/2012 4:51:27 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: tsowellfan

Riiight.


20 posted on 07/18/2012 4:53:21 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: tsowellfan

They will be in recess when Obama says they are.

Sorry, whenever I think about Obama I think recession. Sort of like Reagan and jellybeans. Obama and recession.


21 posted on 07/18/2012 4:53:21 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: Redleg Duke

So much so that a LOT of Dems are NOT GOING to the convention in Charlotte.


22 posted on 07/18/2012 4:53:21 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Just another example of how if Obama is reelected our Constitution and Bill of Rights will become just historic documents while Obama becomes dictator.


23 posted on 07/18/2012 4:53:31 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: The Great RJ

....Or the foundation stones in the event of a revolt.


24 posted on 07/18/2012 4:55:18 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: listenhillary
"All of his moves seem to be pushing our buttons pretty hard. He wants a confrontation."

Could it be that is his plan? If he can push the right people, make them rise up in an armed confrontation, then he can declare a state of emergency, cancel the election, disable all communications (phones, TV, radio, internet) and set in motion the dictatorship he has been preparing for, all the while saying he must do this to "save" us from the "crazy bible and gun toting radicals".

25 posted on 07/18/2012 4:57:53 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie mmm mmm mmm)
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To: Biggirl
The USA Constitution

We're Living In A Post-Constitutional America

26 posted on 07/18/2012 4:58:28 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: Redleg Duke

Redleg, you beat me to it..... I guess you type faster than I do. :)


27 posted on 07/18/2012 5:01:00 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie mmm mmm mmm)
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To: tsowellfan

In my eyes, there is no such thing as a post-Coinstitution America.


28 posted on 07/18/2012 5:01:00 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl
In my eyes, there is no such thing as a post-Coinstitution America

well you should start listening to Mark Levin. We're in uncharted territory.

29 posted on 07/18/2012 5:02:58 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: Reaganite Republican
Dick Morris explained that when the US signs such an international treaty, the nation is bound until the Senate rejects it or the President renounces it.

Oh, OK then.

People who take Constitutional interpretation from a toe-sucker are bound to get easily riled up.

Never mind that the Constitution, and the Supreme Court say otherwise - if Dick Morris says it, that's good enough for me /s.

30 posted on 07/18/2012 5:03:32 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: Biggirl

I mean, think about it. Look at the title of the thread:

Obama to Sign UN Gun-Grab Treaty and RAM IT DOWN OUR THROATS

Now tell me, what’s in your eyes now?


31 posted on 07/18/2012 5:04:44 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: tsowellfan

I do listen to Mark, but also I view this as the “abuse” of the Consitution, not a post-Constitutional America.


32 posted on 07/18/2012 5:06:48 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Reaganite Republican

From a previous thread. A thorough analysis, much more scholarly than Dick Morris. (But I plan to be prepared to defend the Constitution, just in case.)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2907317/posts?page=13#13


33 posted on 07/18/2012 5:08:23 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: tsowellfan

What will simply happen is that people will hide their guns, PERIOD.


34 posted on 07/18/2012 5:08:23 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: tsowellfan

Paging John Boehner!

Sorry, what's up? I was in the tanning booth!

35 posted on 07/18/2012 5:10:35 AM PDT by kempster
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To: Biggirl

“They all fell into the lake in a boating accident, last summer”... coming in 10-9-8-7...

LOL.


36 posted on 07/18/2012 5:12:11 AM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs and most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: listenhillary

Yes he does and he will get it.

What he doesn’t seem to understand is that if he signs it, every gun law on the books will be absolutely meaningless as every gun owner will then be considered criminal.

It’s going to get REAL ugly before it’s over. I hope Obama realizes and is ready for what he is about to unleash. I feel sorry for the cops and other law enforcement out there. They’ll take the brunt of it.

It’s going to be a sad day for the Republic.


37 posted on 07/18/2012 5:12:21 AM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: Biggirl
Update on convention and campaign skippers:

SKIPPING DEMOCRAT CONVENTION

U.S. Sen. or running for U.S. Sen.

Richard Carmona-AZ
Heidi Heitcamp-ND
Claire McCaskill-MO
Joe Manchin-WV
Jon Tester-MT

Gov. or running for Gov.

Earl Ray Tomblin-WV

U.S. Rep. or running for U.S. Rep.

John Barrow-GA
Mark Critz-PA
Kathy Hochul-NY
Jim Matheson-UT
Bill Owens-NY
Nick Rahall-WV

Other

AFL-CIO

SKIPPING GOP CONVENTION:

U.S. Sen. or running for U.S. Sen.

Denny Rehberg-MT

NOT CAMPAIGNING FOR OBAMA

Hillary
Slick
Barbra Streisand
Oprah

WITHOLDING ENDORSEMENT

Colin Powell

38 posted on 07/18/2012 5:12:41 AM PDT by randita (Either the politicians fix our fiscal insanity, or the markets will.)
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To: Biggirl
I view this as the “abuse” of the Consitution, not a post-Constitutional America.

I only wish it were as simple as that. If the abuse is gotten away with it sets precedence for future Presidents. That means the Constitution is only recognized if a particular President chooses to recognize it.

39 posted on 07/18/2012 5:13:28 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: xzins

Look what he has done with executive order.

and you doubt he would try anything like this?


40 posted on 07/18/2012 5:14:38 AM PDT by mouse1
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To: listenhillary
All of his moves seem to be pushing our buttons pretty hard. He wants a confrontation.

Actually, I think armed confrontation is the last thing Obama or any of his puppetmasters want. They are counting on the continued passivity of the American people. Additionally, I think the average left-winger thinks that the President is actually a king and can do whatever he wants. That's why they are always so surprised and annoyed when someone brings up Constitutional limitations. To put it simply: left-wingers simply do not view government in the traditional American sense; they see it more in the Soviet sense.
41 posted on 07/18/2012 5:15:31 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: tsowellfan
"Paging John Boehner!"

You'll find him in the men's room, desperately searching for some physical evidence that he belongs in there.
42 posted on 07/18/2012 5:15:46 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: randita

Colin Powell. What a puke!


43 posted on 07/18/2012 5:16:23 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: tsowellfan

You have your opinion, I have mine.


44 posted on 07/18/2012 5:16:42 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: tsowellfan
Gee that reassuring ,

"John (I can drop trou in half heart beat and not break a fingernail) Boehner"..... RINO's gift to the DNC.

NOT

45 posted on 07/18/2012 5:18:01 AM PDT by SERE_DOC ( “The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” TJ.)
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To: Biggirl

And when you have to put your name in a database to buy ammo? What then? You know, like needing a photo ID to buy cold / hay fever medication?

Hidden guns. Bah! Tell me why in America an American would possibly need to hide their guns? If we’re at that stage, we had better be using our guns to water the tree of liberty.


46 posted on 07/18/2012 5:18:49 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: carriage_hill

People do find ways to hide. :)


47 posted on 07/18/2012 5:18:53 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: tsowellfan

To Arms To Arms.

The coming rally cry.

Meanwhile, this POS is trying to force a confrontation it is as simple as that. He can only guarantee reelection that way or have no election.

I would love to have him order a suspension of voting and have the states tell him FY, and do it anyway.


48 posted on 07/18/2012 5:19:03 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Biggirl
What will simply happen is that people will hide their guns, PERIOD.

I honestly hope you're wrong, because what in the heck is the point in having guns if whenever the government abuses its own authority, all you do is hide them? The 2nd Amendment was written specifically to give the American people a last form of resistance. If the US government (or anyone else) comes for those guns, we should not be hiding them - we should be USING THEM. Otherwise, we are not worthy of being called "American".
49 posted on 07/18/2012 5:20:49 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: randita

Wiould not surprise me if it gets bigger by the day.


50 posted on 07/18/2012 5:20:58 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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