Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Five Different Shelf Life Studies:Two on Canned Food and Three on Dry Food
Grandpappy.onfo ^ | Robert Wayne Atkins, P.E.

Posted on 07/19/2012 10:56:25 PM PDT by Kartographer

fter granting permission, my Entire Food Shelf Life Summary Article was published in the Journal of Civil Defense, Volume 43, Issue Number 2, Year 2010.

The Journal of Civil Defense has an extremely wide distribution and readership including all the Congressmen in the United States Senate and the United States House of Representatives.

Publisher's Mailing Address: The American Civil Defense Association, 11576 S. State Street, Suite 502, Draper, UT 84020 Publisher's Web Address: www.tacda.org.

(Excerpt) Read more at grandpappy.info ...


TOPICS: Food; Science
KEYWORDS: cannedgoods; emergencyprep; food; foodsafety; foodstorage; getreadyhereitcomes; preparedness; prepperping; preppers; selfreliance; shelflife; survivalping
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-39 last
To: Vendome

The fresh shwoosh sound is new to me, thanks....GG


21 posted on 07/20/2012 4:07:02 AM PDT by goat granny
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Marcella

You probablly have actual wheat - right?

Wheat for long term storage, and a grinder of course.

Packaged flour for normal use prior to having to break in to your long term storage. That’s what we do. Imbedded weevils can always pose a problem for flour. Someone on a question and answer blog says she freezes her flour for a few days and then takes it out and hasn’t had a problem since.


22 posted on 07/20/2012 6:42:55 AM PDT by wita
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Kartographer

My wife is of the firm belief that the day (or hour/minute/second) after the use-by-day date, food becomes poisonous and you will die a slow, painful, choking death if you ingest the food. By contrast, I eat bread that has passed the ubd by months. Of course, I store it in the refrigerator, and it still tastes good. But I can’t convince my wife that eating food after the ubd won’t necessarily kill you.


23 posted on 07/20/2012 6:57:54 AM PDT by driftless2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: goat granny

I was rotating some canned green beans a couple of days ago, and noticed the top and bottom of one can seemed to bulge a bit. When I opened the can, it hissed and bubbled like crazy, so I dumped the contents down the garbage disposal. When I examined the bottom of the can closely I found a teeny-tiny little rust spot, must of been what caused the problem.


24 posted on 07/20/2012 7:32:14 AM PDT by LSAggie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: NTHockey

Yes.

https://www.usaemergencysupply.com/information_center/storage_life_of_foods.htm

“Brown and White Rices
Brown and white rices store very differently. Brown rice is only expected to store for 6 months under average conditions. This is because of the essential fatty acids in brown rice. These oils quickly go rancid as they oxidize. It will store much longer if refrigerated. White rice has the outer shell removed along with those fats. Because of this, white rice isn’t nearly as good for you, but will store longer. Hermetically sealed in the absence of oxygen, plan on a storage life for white rice of 8-10 years at a stable temperature of 70 degrees F. It should keep proportionately longer if stored at cooler temperatures. Stored in the absence of oxygen, brown rice will last longer than if it was stored in air. Plan on 1 to 2 years. It is very important to store brown rice as cool as possible, for if you can get the temperature down another ten degrees, it will double the storage life again.”


25 posted on 07/20/2012 7:32:29 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: LSAggie; goat granny

That’s exactly the wrong sound to hear as well seeing the bubbling, unless is had been a can of Coke that was dropped.

You did the right thing. That food would have made you very sick and in danger of dying.


26 posted on 07/20/2012 9:44:33 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Vendome
lemon pepper salt also is one my favorites.

I fancy the Goya Adobo seasonings. They are mostly salt and kept dry in vacuum will keep forever. Quite tasty for just about anything.

27 posted on 07/20/2012 10:03:33 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (As long a hundred of us remain alive we will never on any condition be brought under Obama's rule.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Kirkwood

I remember back in the 70s when I was stationed in Germany. My job required 50% TDY for 4 or 6 weeks at a time to some pretty remote mountaintops and locations all the way from Iceland, through England, Belgium, Germany, Italy, Greece and Turkey.

Pretty poor back then. We’d buy surplus rations and eat them for lunch so we could collect the per diem cash and actually make some extra dough. I remember buying a few boxes of K rations (WWII and Korea), and then some C rations. Didn’t die. I liked the potted meat and crackers. Oh, each pack came with matches and a pack of 4-cigarettes....


28 posted on 07/20/2012 10:08:01 AM PDT by Gaffer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Vendome
She still had her programming and kept trying to toss perfectly good food. So I had to stand side by side with her and then finally asked that she just clean up the shelving and organize everything. I left to attend to business and when I returned I opened the pantry. Damn! Looked great and she threw everything away.

There's a trait I noticed that's common with a lot of women, to a much higher degree than with men: when a man tells her to do something, even though he's her employer, if she doesn't personally agree that it's a good idea she won't do it.

29 posted on 07/20/2012 10:29:46 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Kartographer

Botom line, at my age my canned and dry foods have a longer shelf life than I do.


30 posted on 07/20/2012 10:30:52 AM PDT by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tucker39

16 year old C-rations must be SOP. I was eating 1952 C’s in 1968 while stationed in Germany.


31 posted on 07/20/2012 11:35:50 AM PDT by Starstruck
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: SeaHawkFan

I’ve had a 20 pound bag o’ brown rice in the proverbial cool, dry place for about 5 years, now. Doin’ fine. Bought it for this specific reason. Down to about 6 pounds...should replenish.


32 posted on 07/20/2012 12:47:42 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Vendome
While watching preppers on youtube I have picked up some tips. If you have a food saver, you can order jar sealers for canning jars and canisters that go with the machine. If you put candy, flour or whatever in a jar, you put the flat lid on and seal it. It is magic and it is vacuumed for good until you open it.

Now in the canisters, you can seal jelly jars, spaghetti sauce jars or most any glass jars. Just put one in the canister and seal it up. I have been drying vegetables and fruits and I am sealing them in jars.

33 posted on 07/20/2012 2:27:04 PM PDT by goosie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Vendome

“I had to sit her down and explain what studies have shown and the dates are arbitray government numbers that really have no meaning or value.”

Most of the ‘Use By’ dates are not even dictated by the government...they are arbitrarily decided by the manufacturers.

Vitamins and other supplements...the FDA has not established any parameters for ‘expiration dates’, and they are not required on these things. At least one large supplier of supplements does not put an expiration date on theirs...they do put a ‘Date Manufactured’ on, and this helps keep stock rotated, but in no way indicates that stuff ‘goes bad’.


34 posted on 07/20/2012 3:20:41 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Starstruck; Tucker39

I still have one of the small folding C-ration can openers that came with the package...don’t know the vintage on what we were eating, but I acquired the opener in 1959. For a long time I had it on my key ring, until I figured out that must be what was wearing holes in my pocket :)


35 posted on 07/20/2012 3:26:03 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

That be a P-38.


36 posted on 07/20/2012 3:28:16 PM PDT by Starstruck
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

For a long time after I got out of the Army and worked in a machine shop I had one of those can openers. I had a Kennedy machinist’s toolbox with all the drawers in it, and had a C-Ration can opener in the top small drawer. I’m sure it’s out in the garage somewhere. ;o)


37 posted on 07/20/2012 9:14:50 PM PDT by Tucker39 ( Psa 68:19Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits; even the God of our salvation.KJV)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: goosie
I went to the Food Savor website & looked,
but saw nothing for sealing lids on jars.

Can you provide a link, if you would please? My Thanks in advance!
38 posted on 07/21/2012 11:41:04 PM PDT by 45semi (The correct response to any accusation of racism in the modern age is laughter!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: 45semi
They are called food saver jar sealers and there are two sizes; regular and wide mouth and you have to buy them separately.
http://www.foodsaver.com/product.aspx?pid=9066

If you look on the site and find the canisters you can use these to vacuum seal other glass jars like spaghetti sauce and jelly jars. I use these to seal food that I have dehydrated.

39 posted on 07/23/2012 7:55:57 AM PDT by goosie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-39 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson