Skip to comments.(Vanity) Yet another "which firearm?" thread
Posted on 07/20/2012 9:24:49 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps
Sorry for yet another which firearm thread. Been putting in some OT the last several months, banked up a few extra $$$. Going to celebrate my right as guaranteed by 2nd Amendment. (note, not granted, the government doesn't give me this inalienable right)
So, I am literally set to "pull the trigger" on the purchase of a handgun tomorrow. I have narrowed it down to either a Beretta PX4 Storm (Compact, 9mm) or a Glock 19. This will be a concealed carry weapon.
I don't want to go any larger (full size) as I'm only an average sized guy with slightly smaller than average sized hands. (plenty of hand/arm strength from weight training) I don't want to go any smaller because I don't like the way the grips of the sub-compact weapons don't fill out even my hands.
I was leaning towards the 40S&W round but like the wider availability of 9mm, plus I can share ammo with my wife.
I was originally thinking Glock, almost went for it. Then a guy at a firearms store almost talked me into the Beretta. Now I'm leaning back towards the Glock. Lots of factors at play here, trying to sort them all out.
The Glock is simple, dirt simple to operate. The Beretta has more controls on it.
I like the looks of the Beretta slightly more.
I like the triple-dot sights of the Beretta slightly more.
Several informal polls of fellow firearms enthusiasts say the Glock may have a slight edge in reliability and accuracy. Not sure I'm a good enough shot though to make a difference.
Beretta claims their barrel line is lower, closer to your hand thus reducing felt recoil. Don't know, I've fired a S&W 9mm compact and the recoil is very manageable. (I can be fairly quick, fairly accurate)
Things that aren't factors: magazine capacity (same), accessory rail (both have one, though I don't plan on putting anything on it).
TS, if you had to ask, you should listen to Vinnie
In addition, there is a school of thought that says a manual safety can get you killed in the heat of the moment. I think that is why many Police prefer no manual safety device. Most cops I know carry Glock or a Sig.
Glock or an XD; G21 SF owner here but if I could go back I’d go with the XD just for the grip safety.
I miss my 1911.
Concealed carry is only helpful when it is small enough to carry all the time. When I was a civilian CCW I started with a mid-sized Springfield and almost immediately moved down to a Glock 27. It was just a lot easier to carry than the Springfield.
I now work for a small federal agency that carries HKs and the sub compact makes me miss my 27, especially after traveling all day on a plane.
NO gun should be purchased based off of what someone said. Period. You should take all of the information you can (specs, personal opinions you get elsewhere, etc), and narrow down your list. THEN, you should borrow/rent/do whatever to get the different finalists into your hands at a range and squeeze off some rounds. THEN you should make your decision.
I did all of the research in the world possible for my wife’s Christmas present. Listened to opinions, looked at wound ballistics, etc. Narrowed my field down to an M & P or a Glock. Rented both, found out that my wife, although an incredibly awesome shot, couldn’t get a good grip with her tiny fingers and limp wristed them both terribly. Had I gone off of opinion and bought either, she would have a really expensive bludgeoning weapon. Now she rocks a little .357 revolver that doesn’t have that problem.
Moral of the story: you need to actually put some time in at the range. Hold all of the guns you are thinking of buying. Does your hand fit? Can you reach the mag release? Do you like the safety location? Do you like the weight? Do you like the sights? There’s only one way to find these things out: hold the gun and pull the trigger with live ammo in it.
Trust me on this one like you life depends on it. Because it very well could.
Sounds like you haven’t shot either of them. Go rent them at a range before making the purchase.
Note, the Glock haters haven’t shown up yet.
They will recommend against a Glock because it has no external safety but will recommend a revolver because it has no external safety.
Makes one kinda wonder.
Glock! Dale Fricke’s AIWB Archangel holster. A couple G18 33 round magazines for backups
Why would you want to shoot a perfectly good gun? They don’t work with bullet holes in them.
(lol. I’m pulling yer leg)
They should always respect their gun and what it can do regardless of whether it has a safety or not. A gun is never safe.
If someone fears a gun then they really shouldn’t be carrying. It means they haven’t practiced enough.
Why not just rack the slide? Maybe the bullets defective. That solves both problems.
Agree on this. That’s one of the great features of the PX4. If you have children in the house, I’d recommend the PX4, otherwise the glock is a good gun. Another point, what clothes will you be wearing when carrying your gun? My business casual, in the Summer, makes it hard to conceal a PX4 style of gun. A pocket carry .380 may be a good alternative for the Summer to use to get you to a larger gun, if ever needed. Just another perspective. :)
I hate to burst your bubble but 40 has more power than 45
that and i just do not like having to hand cycle the slide if i don't have to in a high stress situation
Love the Beretta....Glocks seem a little cheap. Plus the trigger safety would take a little getting used to.
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