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James Eagen Holmes has no proven connection to OWS
The Examiner ^ | 7/21/2012 | TIM MCCOWN

Posted on 07/21/2012 9:51:11 AM PDT by frithguild

As a blog on Daily Kos notes, the Right is once again Swift Boating the truth ... The problem for the Right is as usual, not one shard of credible evidence to back up their slander and innuendo. ... Mr. Warner should stick to being hired to bust out those Rich Republicans retired in Florida who are engaged in coveting thy neighbors wife or maybe considering their guilty homophobia all those Righties out there really secretly covet they neighbors husband. His story about Holmes OWS involvement is just Right Wing wishful thinking and belongs right up there with that Texas sized moron Rep. Louie Gomert (R-TX) and his stupid statement didn't someone have a concealed weapon they could have shot him with.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: anarchists; blackbloc; boguspicture; jamesholmes; occubots; occupysandiego; occupywallstreet; occutardation; occutards; occuturds; ows; worriedleftists
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James Holmes Black Bloc OWS Evidence? - Hate Is On the Rise

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1 posted on 07/21/2012 9:51:21 AM PDT by frithguild
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To: frithguild
The article seems to me to be basically true. The evidence of OWS/Holmes linkage is still very weak.

But the left is already in attack mode on the story.

Hmmmm.

2 posted on 07/21/2012 9:55:56 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (TIN)
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To: frithguild
All we know about JH is that he went nuts after intense indoctrination by Leftist academia...

...that's all we know.

3 posted on 07/21/2012 9:56:07 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Obamacare like all Marxist fails, outlaws redress before increasing it's demand.")
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To: frithguild

So thanks to the Leftists for rediscovering the concept of objective truth. All truth is NOT relative anymore.


4 posted on 07/21/2012 9:58:12 AM PDT by willgolfforfood
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To: InterceptPoint

Did he have a Romney sticker on his car, or is this bullshit?


5 posted on 07/21/2012 9:58:20 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: InterceptPoint

This is either Holmes or it isn't.

6 posted on 07/21/2012 9:59:09 AM PDT by txhurl (Scott Walker is my President.)
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To: txhurl

If Obama had married a tall husky white gal, their son would look just like that.....


7 posted on 07/21/2012 10:02:39 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: frithguild

“As a blog on Daily Kos notes, the Right is once again Swift Boating the truth in an attempt to use a horrible event for partisan political gain, when they claim as fact that the Aurora,”
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ah yes- this from the same turds who could not get to their computers fast enough and type out Sarah Palin was responsible for the shooting of Giffords....this crap almost writes itself..


8 posted on 07/21/2012 10:02:43 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: InterceptPoint
The evidence of OWS/Holmes linkage is still very weak.

Your opinion on the YouTube video?

9 posted on 07/21/2012 10:03:15 AM PDT by frithguild (You can call me Snippy the Anti-Freeper)
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To: InterceptPoint

Good to see the nutbars at Kos on defense for a change.


10 posted on 07/21/2012 10:04:14 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: willgolfforfood

>>So thanks to the Leftists for rediscovering the concept of objective truth. All truth is NOT relative anymore.

They’ll forgot all about it as soon as they can find evidence that he attended church once in his life or said one kind word about Reagan or complained that Obama isn’t doing enough to help the poor. Then, he’ll be a white, christian, tea-bagger again and all truth will be relative.


11 posted on 07/21/2012 10:04:14 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: frithguild

Actually, so far it is circumstantial evidence. But it looks extremely likely.

I haven’t passed this on to my liberal friends, because it hasn’t been absolutely proven. But I’d say the odds in favor look like about 95%.

It certainly is not a right-wing lie, as these left-wing liars claims.

The police and/or the press could soon confirm or disprove this link, but you won’t see them rushing to do so, as they would if it was a link to a “militia” or to some conservative organization.


12 posted on 07/21/2012 10:07:58 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: txhurl

NY is not San Diego.


13 posted on 07/21/2012 10:11:01 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: txhurl

There’s another possible screenshot from the video (Of two people holding a banner) and one of the two looks even more like James Holmes than this photo does.


14 posted on 07/21/2012 10:11:19 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: frithguild

Distortions and “wishful thinking” are dangerous and wrong whenever they pass for “news”. The left does it much of the time but that doesn’t give the right justification for joining the lying. There are moral absolutes and truthfulness is one of them.


15 posted on 07/21/2012 10:12:06 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: txhurl
Kind of like that 1979 picture of Ahmadinejad with the American hostages in Tehran—you know, and anybody else who has optic nerves attached to gray matter also knows, that that bastard terrorist and the current president of Iran are the same evil sumbitch!!!

But it ain't so unless the MSM say it's so—and they won't if it hurts the Naked Marxist.

16 posted on 07/21/2012 10:13:22 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Obamacare like all Marxist fails, outlaws redress before increasing it's demand.")
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To: Cicero

Diane Sawyer did say that this was the worst mass murder in American history, with 71 victims. That’s why Ross and Steph rushed the TEA Party angle out, they knew this was coming.

No worries, Soros will buy him a good lawyer who will spring him on insanity defense.


17 posted on 07/21/2012 10:13:27 AM PDT by txhurl (Scott Walker is my President.)
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To: frithguild
i notice no mention made of ABC saying he belonged to the Tea Party though...
18 posted on 07/21/2012 10:14:30 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: frithguild

“His story about Holmes OWS involvement is just Right Wing wishful thinking and belongs right up there with that Texas sized moron Rep. Louie Gomert (R-TX) and his stupid statement didn’t someone have a concealed weapon they could have shot him with.”

If a off duty police officer had a concealed weapon and shot him that would be still stupid? If people are trained to use a firearm. (granted not as trained as officers) Still the same lead slamming through the brain stem stops the behavior. What does it matter how the bullet reaches the brainstem.?


19 posted on 07/21/2012 10:14:42 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: txhurl

Someone on another thread pointed out that those are NYPD officers carrying the protester, not San Diego police officers.


20 posted on 07/21/2012 10:15:37 AM PDT by Godebert (NO PERSON EXCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: coloradan

We’ll probably find him in a LOT of OWS photos, they always miss a few during the scrub.


21 posted on 07/21/2012 10:16:14 AM PDT by txhurl (Scott Walker is my President.)
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To: frithguild
The punk was a terrorists and no question of guilt. Should face firing squad tomorrow and every gun loaded with live ammo. Instead he will be alive for many years and eventually declared cured of insanity and set free. Hope some concerned citizen, after his release, blows his head off.
22 posted on 07/21/2012 10:20:19 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: frithguild
Mass murderer Holmes acts and dresses like a black bloc member wih nothing traceable such as credit cards and cars; etc.

When he shot up the Aurora movie house, he was dressed as a black bloc member dresses. The new batman movie had an OWS type guy as the villian and was dressed in black. The probably mentally unstable Holmes may have been really pissed off at the movie and wanted revenge: explanation here.

This is certainly circumstantial, but it is more plausible than Brian Ross's view that a James Holmes of the Tea Party -- who was not the James Holmes who was the shooter -- performed the mass murder.

23 posted on 07/21/2012 10:21:43 AM PDT by Stepan12
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To: Drango

I’m gonna have to take your word on that.


24 posted on 07/21/2012 10:24:11 AM PDT by EandH Dad (sleeping giants wake up REALLY grumpy)
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To: Drango
I couldn't figure out how anyone could tell the difference between NY and SD uniforms so I googled it....San Diego uniforms have yellow on the arm patch insignia.

I don't see any yellow in this photo and we can see both arms from one officer or another.

25 posted on 07/21/2012 10:24:19 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (I just try to stay out of the fray...)
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To: frithguild

But Mr. McCown—the fact remains that OWS is not restrained by any moral code. So whether or not Holmes is in fact associated with OWS is irrelevant to the fact that his actions flow logically from the philosophy of OWS.

And I realize that most OWS sympathizers would not like this to be the case, but their desire doesn’t change that it is factually true.


26 posted on 07/21/2012 10:24:48 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Why do you seek the living among the dead? (Luke 24:5))
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To: goseminoles
Did he have a Romney sticker on his car, or is this bullshit?

Hadn't heard that before.

27 posted on 07/21/2012 10:27:39 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (TIN)
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To: frithguild; txhurl
Your opinion on the YouTube video?

Enough to worry DailyKos, not enough to convince a jury.

28 posted on 07/21/2012 10:30:03 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (TIN)
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To: frithguild

I’m going to put on my liberal thinking cap before I comment on this article... All you have to do is look at this twink to know that he is connected to the Occupy Wall Street psychos.


29 posted on 07/21/2012 10:33:57 AM PDT by Mister Anderson (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the Idiots)
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To: Stepan12

I’m reading he purchased ammo on the internet. I’d think he’d have to have a credit card for that.


30 posted on 07/21/2012 10:34:48 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Logical me
Instead he will be alive for many years and eventually declared cured of insanity and set free.

I wouldn't hold my breath.
31 posted on 07/21/2012 10:34:58 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: InterceptPoint

Well stated.


32 posted on 07/21/2012 10:38:44 AM PDT by frithguild (You can call me Snippy the Anti-Freeper)
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To: frithguild
As a blog on Daily Kos notes, the Right is once again Swift Boating the truth ...

Sorry Timmy. The gun smoke hadn't even dissipated yesterday before the commie turds in the "media" on your side were saying Holmes was a member of the TEA Party. Wake up boy!!! Ya gotta learn how to pay attention and focus.

33 posted on 07/21/2012 10:39:08 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Who is Barack Hussein Obama?)
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To: CaptainK
I’m reading he purchased ammo on the internet. I’d think he’d have to have a credit card for that.

Paypal?

34 posted on 07/21/2012 10:42:15 AM PDT by Stepan12
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To: InterceptPoint

Are you expecting his lawyer to say something like ‘Your Honor and members of the jury, my client may or may not be guilty of the worse mass murder in US history but these fetid attempts to tie him to OWS are simply beyond the pale.’


35 posted on 07/21/2012 10:44:12 AM PDT by txhurl (Scott Walker is my President.)
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To: reasonisfaith
the fact remains that OWS is not restrained by any moral code. So whether or not Holmes is in fact associated with OWS is irrelevant to the fact that his actions flow logically from the philosophy of OWS.

Absolutely correct.


36 posted on 07/21/2012 10:44:47 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: frithguild
, the Right is once again Swift Boating the truth .

SWIFT BOATING is telling the TRUTH
37 posted on 07/21/2012 10:47:41 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: txhurl
Are you expecting his lawyer to say something like ‘Your Honor and members of the jury, my client may or may not be guilty of the worse mass murder in US history but these fetid attempts to tie him to OWS are simply beyond the pale.’

Nope. It's the jury of public opinion that I was referring to. Time will tell. Odds are good for an OWS connection but the evidence is still very circumstantial at best.

The San Diego vs. New York police uniform differences is worth noting. An example of still weak evidence for OWS connection.

38 posted on 07/21/2012 10:48:44 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (TIN)
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To: Stepan12

Don’t you need a credit card to establish a paypal account? I know I needed one.


39 posted on 07/21/2012 10:51:59 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Happy Rain
But it ain't so unless the MSM say it's so—and they won't if it hurts the Naked Marxist.

McLuhan got it backwards. The message is the medium by which the system knows reality.

40 posted on 07/21/2012 10:52:59 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: txhurl

worst mass murderer, Ms Sawyer? i think that belongs to
a school janitor in Minn. or close by ——cut all his trees down and blew up the school


41 posted on 07/21/2012 11:02:03 AM PDT by urtax$@work (The only kind of memorial is a Burning memorial !)
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To: Stepan12
I’m reading he purchased ammo on the internet. I’d think he’d have to have a credit card for that.

Paypal?

Probably Mom and Dads card. That is probably why she said "You got the right person". The bill came to them.

42 posted on 07/21/2012 11:10:55 AM PDT by Starstruck
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To: frithguild

So why did Holmes’ grades go down last spring, causing him to drop out of graduate school? What was he doing?


43 posted on 07/21/2012 11:14:11 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: txhurl
Diane Sawyer did say that this was the worst mass murder in American history, with 71 victims.

Would it occur to any of these media elite to think before they speak?

44 posted on 07/21/2012 11:23:08 AM PDT by Never on my watch (I'd rather light a candle than curse the flatulence.)
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To: frithguild

There are a few on the right that seem to seek to make us as bad as the left when it comes to conspiracy theories and rampant speculation.

Most conservatives wait for evidence before they make accusations, are are quite open to reason.

But there’s always a vocal minority who think making claims without evidence is a winning strategy.


45 posted on 07/21/2012 11:24:28 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: txhurl
The media have short time horizons. The San Ysidro MacDonald's massacre in 1984 produced 22 deaths including the perpetrator, James Huberty and the Luby’s Cafeteria massacre in Killeen Texas produced 24 fatalities again including the perpetrator a man named Henard and the VPI massacre produced 34 deaths. The media whores are obviously trying to give this story longer legs to milk it and i suppose to give the gun control communists a bigger platform.
46 posted on 07/21/2012 11:27:24 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: Starstruck

Student loans most likely.
Deferred payback and 1/3th the interest rate of consumer credit cards


47 posted on 07/21/2012 11:28:40 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Starstruck
Probably Mom and Dads card.

I can see that. In fact I fully expect this guy was a 'failure to launch' momma's boy.

If you are correct and these suspicious purchases were made some time ago, the parents are complicit IMO.

48 posted on 07/21/2012 11:29:40 AM PDT by Never on my watch (I'd rather light a candle than curse the flatulence.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
making claims without evidence

Is your opinion that the evidence I have have posted at RadioFreeNJ could not possible have any probity with any person whatsoever? Or are you saying that conservatives should wait for all the evidence to be in before promoting a legitimate inference, while the other side poisons other's perception of you?

49 posted on 07/21/2012 11:34:48 AM PDT by frithguild (You can call me Snippy the Anti-Freeper)
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To: frithguild

Your post has Occupy San Diego

Posters have said that they are not San Diego police uniforms


50 posted on 07/21/2012 11:38:30 AM PDT by uncbob
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