"If you've got a DUFU, you didn't write that. The DUmmies made that happen."
Posted on 07/21/2012 4:57:46 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson
"If you've got a DUFU, you didn't write that. The DUmmies made that happen."
As part of the Democrats' War on Success, here is what King Obama the Stupid said recently:
There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me -- because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t -- look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something -- there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there.
If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.
"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen." Yes, he said it. And the CONTEXT? King Obama uses the PRETEXT of "roads and bridges," etc., to gin up class warfare and to justify "asking" the wealthy, who already pay way more in taxes than anyone else--to make them pay EVEN MORE, so that the federal government can spend that money, NOT on roads and bridges, but on their wealth-redistributing, Democrat-voter-pleasing, spending schemes.
So let's see how the DUmmies try to spin this to defend Dear Leader. Lots and lots of threads to choose from, we'll select from a few, starting with this THREAD, "There is not a single business owner in this country who got where they are 100% on their own." DUmmies in Bolshevik Red, humble guest correspondent Charles Henrickson in [Barackets], you know the drill. And away we go!
There is not a single business owner in this country who got where they are 100% on their own
[Well, DUh, Captain Obvious. But to jump from that truism to where the Obamarxist is going with this, that is quite a leap.]
For starters, somebody gave them an education.
[Nobody "gave" me an education. Not only did my family pay taxes for the government schools, they also, since they wanted me to get a GOOD education, sent me to parochial schools, for which we had to pay even more. So, strike one . . .]
They had to get their startup money from somewhere. Either through their family, friends, or a bank loan.
[Fine. No problem. That's all private-sector stuff. IOW, what conservatives support. Strike two . . .]
They made use of public infrastructure - roads, bridges, seaports, airports, etc.
[For which they taxes. And in larger amounts than anyone else. Strike three. You're out. But I know that won't stop you . . .]
No one exists in a vacuum.
[But vacuous minds do exist in DUmmieland.]
I think this is a bad argument to make. Suppose I built a house from the ground up - laid the cement, set up the walls, joists and put on the roof and siding and drywall. I did all that work and I am gonna be proud of what I built. For somebody who has never built anything to say "you didn't build that yourself" seems a) argumentive, and b) it belittles all of the work that I have done.
[Suppose c) you get tombstoned, for being a LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!!]
So now after I did all this work, society is going to take half of it just because other people cut the boards (and then sold them to me) and made the nails and hammers and saws and drills and levels (and then sold them to me) and paid for the highways (and so did I) that they were transported over and paid for the schools (and so did my parents) etc. Myself, I just do not care to denigrate hard work, and starting and running a business can be hard work. . . .
[OK, DUmmie hfojvt, with over 29,000 posts, maybe you aren't an LFT. You could just be a DUmmie having a Brief Moment of Mental Clarity, in which case I must award you . . . a Kewpie Doll! . . . which, by the way, you did not build, somebody else made that.]
Obama should have vetted the speech. . . .
[It's the teleprompter's fault!]
He's not getting votes with this speech, sad to say, only losing them more and giving ammunition to the other side.
[Sorry, only one Kewpie per thread.]
F*** the business community.
[Spoken like a true DUmmie! Who needs all those silly jobs anyway?]
There's a winning campaign slogan.
[I detect a note of sarcasm.]
No one out there created a business without relying on goods and services that were provided in part by my tax dollars.
[Woo-hoo! A winning argument!]
Or their own. . . .
[Or maybe not.]
"Only when the last tree has died and the last river been poisoned and the last fish been caught will we realize we cannot eat money" ~ Cree Indian Proverb
[Probably written by Elizabeth Warren.]
We all stand on the shoulders of those who came before.
[Mao, Lenin, Marx. . . .]
We humans, really are not, little islands of knowledge and skill and duty and effort.
[Particularly you DUmmies.]
Only a small fraction of government spending goes to things that help business. The largest share of federal government spending is transfer payments, e.g. SS, Medicare, Medicaid and various welfare programs.
[Stop it! You're destroying the Roads and Bridges Argument!]
personally, I think it was a dumb thing to say.
[The president acted stupidly.]
Did the Prez make a faux pas about small businesses in a recent campaign stump?
[If he made a faux pas, he didn't do that. The Rethuglicans made that happen.]
I actually think he was referring to the roads and bridges. . . .
It is obvious that he was referring to roads, bridges. . . .
Obama was saying you didn't build the roads. . . .
[The Roads scholars check in.]
DEMS: Don't explain, DOUBLE DOWN!
[DEMS: Don't explain, DUMB IT DOWN!]
SPINE! SPINE! SPINE! SPINE! SPINE!
[SPIN! SPIN! SPIN! SPIN! SPIN!]
Obama....WAKE UP! Say something!
[Say something DUmb again! Yes, when you find yourself in a hole, dig deeper! C'mon, Obama, you're shovel-ready!]
Okay, so then it does look like you did write that sermon to be delivered tomorrow.
Actually you can "give" people the best education available but if they don't take advantage of it, they won't learn much. My best education actually came on my own while in the college reading room just leafing through books.
Well, actually, that would be true! I have not written a sermon for tomorrow. I'm taking a vacation Sunday, and someone is filling in for me.
I'm up in Chicago right now, staying at a friend's house. We're both lifelong Cubs' fans, and tomorrow we're going to watch Ron Santo's induction into the Hall of Fame.
What Obama was using was a bit of absurd reductive reasoning. It’s like saying if I wrote a best-seller using a pen or a pencil, because I didn’t make the the pen or pencil, I really didn’t write that book. The people who manufactured the pen or pencil deserve a share of the profits off my book. That’s the “logic” of Obama’s argument. They should never let him off the teleprompter.
Yes, but every sane person knows that. Americans are rich because we live in America. We know that if we were living in a third-world pesthole, the chances of it happening would be slim or none.
Nevertheless, it's beside the point. If you have a system where a scoundrel like Obama can take your money because you didn't create all the conditions that allowed you to make a lot of money, then there's no such thing as private property. Agreeing with Obama's "logic" means he can take as much of your money as he wants.
The moonbats seem to be somewhere behind the magic 8-ball in the left pocket, yet unable to understand many of their stripes are still unaccounted for.
Yeah! I actually knew a preacher who does that. The flea market preacher out of Georgia. I met him at a flea market a few years ago on a Saturday and he sold me a fanny pack. He told me that he travels the country selling at flea markets on Saturdays and on Sundays he pinch hits when other preachers take the day off.
Just about everybody would say NO but, in fact, everything in the universe according to science actually fit into an infinitesimally small space at the beginning of time (Big Bang). So fitting everything someone owns into a suitcase should be a piece of cake.
The problem with your argument is extrapolating it over the vast segment of the business community. Sure, we’ve all met arrogant business people. But does that mean they represent the majority? And, how often do we mistake arrogance for confidence? After all, it’s all in our perception.
No, Obama had no, absolutely no, basis on which to say this beyond his own perception of reality. He’s never built anything worthwhile. His whole existence is based on his being supported by others. If it wasn’t for the George Soros’ or Democratic Parties of this world, where would he be? (I’m sure there are others but I’ll let that go for now...)
So, we’re supposed to be critical of business professionals, when we have a know-nothing, do-nothing, socialist president who believes nothing is ever proper if it doesn’t have government approval? The Hell with that.
Spot on. It is a non sequitur. And it's used to justify more and more taxation.
Another Charles makes a great point here: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/310217/going-dutch-mark-steyn
How dare you defame Lars Larson like that? Just because he opened a bar (with that name, probably in Wisconsin...) and endeavored to be successful. Who do you think you are, the president? Lars, Swen, Ole, they’re all good, down-home, Americans...
Lars’ milk cow had passed on to her proper reward so he was in need of another milk cow. He saw in the local paper that Ole Peterson in Minnesota had a milk cow for sale, so he traveled there to talk business.
Ole said “Sure, I got a fine cow. Ya want to milk her?”
Lars said “OK”, and settled down in the barn to begin milking.
But every time Lars would pull on a teat, the cow would fart. After a while Lars said “ Well, the cow looks pretty good to me, I guess I’ll take her”.
Ole responded, “Well, that’s good. I kinda t’ought her farting would be a problem”.
Lars replied, “Oh, that’s OK, my wife’s from Minnesota”...
But I digress. Marty was indeed a bartender. In fact, he owned the bar. And, I’d been a customer for a couple years when Mom said, “OK, as a birthday present, we’re going to Marty’s and have a beer”. Imagine when we walked in the door and she said “Give Jim a beer on his 21st birthday”. Marty just smiled and handed one over. True story (and not the only one I could tell)...
Now, you know the rest of the story - at least some of it... :)
Chicago? Eww.... Ya should be 80 miles west where clean air and the smell of corn and soybeans makes a man of ya.
Seriously, glad to have you back home. Hope your stay is memorable and a great time. I’ll have an extra couple fingers of WT101 to honor your visit, while I’m watching the Open. Get home safely, and give those Missourians the skinny on what teams are worth watching (except for the Bears...).
Ah yes - I remember it well!
Let me recount ...
After my voluntary Military Service in 1960, I knocked a girl up, and married her.
Then I went to night-school to become an Engineer for Eight years, and I made it!
In the meantime, I worked at-and-for FoMoCo, T.D.Shea, and FoMoCo, and they helped me with the tuition costs, and I helped them with some damned-fine innovations! I am a clever engineer.
In 1969 I moved to South Bend, IN.
In 1978 I started http://www.bamarplastics.com
We’re still in business.
Did the gummint start my business?
NO! I DID!!!
That gummint fined me $600 for having a can of ‘Raid’ that was not labeled properly!
I’ve got 39 people to protect! VOTE THE HALFRICAN OUT in November!
Case closed! ................................. FRegards
The bartender could have been my Uncle Marty who was a bartender. Actually he was known as the bartender’s bartender. Not only did he look every inch a bartender but he also had a vast repertoire of jokes that he told the customers. The Mob used to like to hang out at Uncle Marty’s bar. Once in awhile he would make a phone call to them to ask a favor. I knew when that happened because for some reason he called himself “Mike,” not Marty, when he identified himself over the phone.
Seriously. Good going. And I know how you feel.
Nobody 'gave me' shiite. I had to learn everything I needed to succeed on my own. Ok so I did have some good teachers and a mentor -- whoopee, so did others.
I hate these commie maggots! And I only have to worry about two people.
ps: You still your copy of Mark's Standard Handbook For Mechanical Engineering? I still have mine, the 1966 edition.
[A PE friend (around '83) said keep it, the laws of physics never change ;-)]
My Marty could have been related to Lars, Swen or Ole, based on his surname. We lived in a small resort community in southeastern WI that surrounded two lakes. (Some bored individual with too much time on their hands could probably figure out the name of the community from that description.)
Many of the homes were summer homes, and the population of around 2000 would swell to over 7000 in the summer months. Virtually all of them coming from the greater Chicago area.
Did you ever run into Hef and any of his girls when was there?
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