Skip to comments.Aurora Shooter Militant Occupy Black Bloc Member?
Posted on 07/21/2012 5:17:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Private Detective Bill Warner is reporting at his site that the Aurora, CO theatre mass murderer James E. Holmes was apparently a member of the Occupy movements elite militant and violent Black Bloc unit. There is also a photo on the site showing Holmes being arrested by what appear to be San Diego police.
We already know that Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi and a number of other Democrat lawmakers have praised the Occupy movement and Obama-mentor and boss George Soros has heavily financed it. Now, with the Black Bloc Uber-violent segment and its apparent hit-man James Holmes beginning to look, sound and feel like another ObamaFriend Bill Ayers Weather Underground, we finally know who is really behind this violence.
The new Batman movie--third of the trilogy--is extremely critical of the Occupy movement. It strongly appears that Holmes didnt like that characterization. So, he killed 12 people and injured at least 71 others with a hail of bullets directed at the moviegoers. If Holmes tie in to the Occupy Black Bloc unit is allowed to come to the light of day, it will finally be known that the Obama Police State will no longer allow anyone to even listen to those who criticize the dictator.
Every day now we are reminded that we have, indeed, reached that critical time in our countrys history to decide whether we want to live in Luciferian tyranny and suppression as slaves under the growing Obama police state or fight and perhaps die to bring back and ensure liberty for our children and grandchildren.
The Obama War has begun on multiple fronts and, also, includes roving gangs of black teens who are seeking out non-blacks (especially whites) to maim and kill. These are happening more and more frequently and do not appear to be waning. Under Obamas rule, the USA has not only become a 3rd world country but, Obama has driven race relations to all time lows if not into non-existence.
It is now apparent that Obama and his operatives will do anything to reelect the usurper;. Even murder--including this latest version of Ayers Weather Underground--may no longer be an obstacle. Will We-the-People have the courage, will and honor to stop him? Will we? We may be forced to decide that answer even sooner than we anticipated.
Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin--James 4:17
UPDATED Occupy Black Bloc Member James E. Holmes Shoots Up Aurora Co Movie Theater Killing 12 And Wounding 50, Batman Movie Slams OWS.:
Obama Praises Occupy movement:
Pelosi Gets Behind Occupy Wall Street:
The Secrets of Soros, Obama, Occupiers and the MSM (Part 2 of 3):
The George Soros Connection to 'Occupy Wall Street':
A few links to Black Mobs Attacking Whites:
He must really be messed up in the head.
I am in the wait and see mode. Not going to jump to any conclusions at this point in time but keeping and open mind.
1) There’s no photo of Holmes being arrested by San Diego police at the site.
2) The Private Detective is SPECULATING. If you read the site he has no actual evidence whatsoever that Holmes is in the OWS.
3) That this keeps getting posted is an embarrassment to FR.
Premature at this point. No more justified than the claim of Tea Party affiliation.
In fact, what if the guy had been a TP member? Doesn’t tell us anything about the organization, unless it promotes the behavior he engaged in.
Remember, most of your "Adult Onset Schizos" don't work well with others.
I’m with you.
But there is some reason why they are not releasing a booking photo.
I want to see this reported in a credible source before I believe it.............
So far I've read or seen no confirmation that Holmes was anything other than a poser, who may have been inspired by anarchist OWS websites, who may have targeted this movie's message... Lots of speculation.
Is there any confirmation he was a registered voter, let alone a Democrat?
Anything other than the possibility the perp was a self-injury-addict and socially maladapted, perhaps proto-schizophrenic or bi-polar?
Even committed anarchists have some social skills. Guess he'll learn so pretty harsh social skills on the Green Mile.
Interesting. But there’s a ton of conjecture in this. Let’s wait until the police have a chance to go through his computer(s) and cell phone records. Certainly, there’s little chance that some “black bloc” member would be honorable enough to step forward and say “hey, he was one of us.”
If he is a “black bloc” member he might have had assistance in the planning and preparation stages. So that would be interesting.
If that’s the picture claiming to be of San Diego cops arresting a guy that looked like an undyed-hair version of the perp, folks are saying the photo is a deliberate effort to mislead because those cops are not wearing San Diego cop uniforms.
AFAIK nobody is compiling accurate statistics on this subject, so all discussion is anecdotal in nature. Can't tell if these attacks are getting more common or not.
We DO know the overall crime and murder rate is down. Unless somebody is fiddling those numbers.
He’s not Schiz, look up Borderline Personality Disorder.
Easily treatable and then he can go into the general population of prisoners.
They will deal with him.
I cannot reach any conclusion based on the information provided. Frankly, it appears to be utter crap, nonsense, disinformation. Both the WEB Commentary and Warner’s website appear to be specious, and unworthy of posting on FreeRepublic. However, I think that you, 2ndDivisionVet, have a good reputation here, and I do not disrespect your opinion. But this is not sufficient information on which anyone can base a reasonable opinion.
Not having seen the movie, can someone tell me in what way is the movie critical of the Occupy movement? Just curious, (and too cheap to go to the movies.)
He could also have a tumor.
” what if the guy had been a TP member?”
A Toilet Paper member? A one sheet guy? Well,,,, that explains it all!
We’ll see what his manifesto says, they always leave a manifesto.
where did the money and experise come from?
My thoughts exactly.
“3) That this keeps getting posted is an embarrassment to FR.”
THIS! Some people are acting no better than Brian Ross. There is no proof that the person at the rally is the same person charged in Aurora.
This kind of repetitive crap needs to stop and those posting it should be blocked from posting for a period of time.
Sounds like a lot of conjecture and no evidence. However, I went to see Batman and it turned my stomach. It is a recruitment movie for the Occupy crowd. Where every rich person is evil and the masses will revolt against their entitled slave owners and be justified in beating and raping them. A disgusting piece of propaganda. Every slogan ever utter by the Occupy Crowd was embedded in the script. It is no wonder wild speculation has legs.
From what I have heard so far I doubt he was an active member of any group.
Yeah, you can view the past five years and find little else on activity other than online gaming and classes. He may have drifted off over the past twelve months with some risky personal behavior...probably related to some medication that he started taking. At some point...some connection to bi-polar will pop up, and the old medication versus the new medication problem will pop up.
OWS stepped forward and gave up DNA when NYPD said DNA matched to a murder victim from 2004. .
Many innocent 99%’ers were murdered in this theater. I do think Occupy would step forward—as much as I despise them, I believe that.
Maybe I am a fool but I overall I still believe in the decency of our fellow man, even when I don’t agree with them.
I have observed your subversive disinformation tactics for years, and can't believe you haven't been outed long before now. Knock it off.
We just ain't smelling that crap you're selling.
I am waiting to see what comes out.
I suspect that if this story is true , we won’t be seeing much of it.
The truth will eventually come out and I suspect this story is probably right.
No evidence exists to suggest he had any political views.
I have viewed a number of videos that stated Holmes was a part of the OWS crowd. In two of them it looks like him, but I can't and wouldn't confirm that it was in front of a jury.
Methinks if the LEO finds more information, and doesn't suppress the evidence, he may be confirmed as a OWS piece of trash.
File this post under "it remains to be proved." Proved being the operative word.
At his time, there is no evidence. And Strategerist is right on in this case. Shame on you.
Belonging to Occupy Wall Street’s Black Bloc suggests you’re wrong, Mister or Miss IJustGotHereLastWeek.
ICD-10 criteria for Schiz
1. Characteristic symptoms: Two or more of the following, each present for much of the time during a one-month period (or less, if symptoms remitted with treatment).
4. Disorganized speech, which is a manifestation of formal thought disorder
5. Grossly disorganized behavior (e.g. dressing inappropriately, crying frequently) or catatonic behavior
6. Negative symptoms: Blunted affect (lack or decline in emotional response), alogia (lack or decline in speech), or avolition (lack or decline in motivation)
7. If the delusions are judged to be bizarre, or hallucinations consist of hearing one voice participating in a running commentary of the patient’s actions or of hearing two or more voices conversing with each other, only that symptom is required above. The speech disorganization criterion is only met if it is severe enough to substantially impair communication.
8. Social or occupational dysfunction: For a significant portion of the time since the onset of the disturbance, one or more major areas of functioning such as work, interpersonal relations, or self-care, are markedly below the level achieved prior to the onset.
Significant duration: Continuous signs of the disturbance persist for at least six months. This six-month period must include at least one month of symptoms (or less, if symptoms remitted with treatment).
I’ve worked with them. They can’t organize the way this man could. No blunted affect. He is spitting on doors and guards. He may have delusions but that’s not strictly Schiz. Lots of disorders have delusions. But the big thing is the timeline. If he didn’t have any symptoms before this, he is not Schiz.
ICD-10 criteria for BPD
1. frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment. Note: Do not include suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in Criterion 5.
2. a pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation.
3. identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self.
4. impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., spending, sex, substance abuse, reckless driving, binge eating). Note: Do not include suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in Criterion 5.
5. recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, or threats, or self-mutilating behavior
6. affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability, or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days).
7. chronic feelings of emptiness
8. inappropriate, intense anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights)
9. transient, stress-related paranoid ideation or severe dissociative symptoms
The DSM IV goes on to say:
The essential feature of Borderline Personality Disorder is a pervasive pattern of instability of interpersonal relationships, self-image, and affects, and marked impulsivity that begins by early adulthood and is present in a variety of contexts.
His mother had a bumpersticker from a group which supports those who self-mutilate and if the bio on the hook-up site is actually him, he lists himself with a small penis. Dying his hair red was not to make him look like the “Joker” (who’s hair is green). It’s part of this disorder.
Trust me. BPD is a very dangerous disorder. People can function for a very long time before they blow. They are a little weird but functional. The kind of needy person who was “quiet and didn’t bother anyone”. Then you find out he had an ex-whatever who was trying to avoid him.
Add this to it...
If this is true, it is huge! It have been clear that “Occupy whatever...” wants blood to run in the streets, but if he can be traced to their leadership and publicly outed as such, AND this gets national media attention is could awaken the entire nation to what is going on in the name of political/electoral manipulation.
But it keeps getting posted because some people want to believe it, regardless of evidence.
Pay them and they will come.
So he dyed his hair red or green ~ it'd make no difference to him!
Nobody is stating anything is proven yet but are posting what they are finding whether it turns out can be proven true or not. I think it is all over Freerepublic that nothing is proven yet in post after post.
Instead of just speculating that they are wrong and constantly trying to shut the search down which is what makes Freerepublic special by belittling what people are coming up with, prove they are wrong and add something. Otherwise I have long thought you were nothing but troll.
Freerepublic is the site I go to to look at news because this site though conservative will not give conservatives slack if they are wrong, nor will they give news items slack if it looks bad for the conservative side either because someone is always willing to post something to disprove a lie and do so over and over until it is shown to be true. Here truth is more important than propaganda when it comes to facts.
By the time something left wing or islamic is proven about this guy the MSN will have long since moved on and nobody will know about it....so let the people at Freererpublic alone to search.
A sufficiently powerful recurring delusion is all you'd need to really set yourself up for some serious mayhem.
Think about it ~ he had 6,000 rounds of ammunition ~ so, what do you do with it once you've got it? Let's say he had some totally normal moments (a situation much more in line with bipolar disorder), if he were not medicated he might be able to play 'catchup' ~ have worked with some bipolar folks who did just that. Then, outside those moments they preferred to be on zonk medicine of whatever kind they could get a doctor to prescribe, or they'd drink heavily.
If he were bipolar, he'd become aware every now and then that he had 6,000 rounds of ammunition ~ and he'd do something with it.
I'm not ruling out bipolar disorder or borderline, but doggone it, this total absorption into a comic book character really looks like a manifestation of a schizophrenic delusion, or, as I said, he could have a tumor.
This wouldn’t surprise me, but until there is solid proof it is just a rumor. What evidence did the private detective rely on?
BTW that started with a search for FURRIES to see if any of their get togethers also had Batman, Robin, Darth Vader or Empire Troopers ~ and I found one ~ one search led to the next and it's safe to say that it is normal to find folks who own body armor and helmets with gas masks who go to these comic book cons, furry cons, and others ~
I"ve heard sex is commonplace with the costumed geeks.
Yesterday, they had on their website that he was one of their own, but they removed it.
I see them as pretty varied and multi-faceted.
There are the democrats and their politicians that try and rope OWS in and make them their herd/tool. Some republicans have tried to do that with the TEA Party.
The Unions tried to make use of OWS as well. They were successful to some extent. The Unions didn't bother with the TEA Party because we aren't anywhere near as gullible or close to their hearts desire.
I've read from people here on FR that OWS had many homeless booger in for whatever scraps they good take in, more parasitic than supporters. Funny, some of the rich 1% rapper sorts were parasitic, too. That was rich and punny. :p
There are some who are informed and really believe in some of the carp they spout. I disagree vehemently but as long as they are peaceful and respectful, gopher it. At least they are standing for something they strongly believe--even if I hate what they stand for.
There were some young people who didn't know beans of what was really happening and didn't really care but they wanted to be part of something big for their generation, like Woodstock or Haight-Ashbury. Something to define them and put them in history, too.
Some older folk joined in for 'glory days' and some were just plain followers.
Yes, and there was the money aspect and I can't say I don't see some of that played off the TEA Party, either.
>>Red/Green colorblindness is exceedingly common among males.
So he dyed his hair red or green ~ it’d make no difference to him! <<
That does make tons of sense, actually. It’s the first decent explanation I’ve see for it.
Ha! Made me smile.
I suppose he has good memories and he’s in his 70’s, not very old but he didn’t lose it to that foot-loose love movement at a very young age. Right on... :)
I’ve been to both Comic Con and Midnight premiers.
Full costumes are NOT unusual. In fact, many times random costumed people will run into a theater before the movie starts at a midnight showing, act out a few lines and run back out. I told my girls that if we had been in Aurora, I would have honestly thought it was just a fan and wouldn’t have been alarmed at all. Most probably all of us would be dead.
For the last Harry Potter we were at our local AMC with IMAX. Out of the 30 theaters, 28 were showing HP. There were costumes everywhere. A group from Michigan State performed “A Very Potter Musical” totally impromptu. If someone had come into that Mulitplex as Voldemort, with plans to take us all out, no one would have thought a thing of it.
For The Avengers there were superheroes everywhere. A couple of Batmen and Catwomen too. There was even a “Marvel vs. DC” Dance off.
One group came in at 6pm dressed as the characters. They strolled up to the box office and asked for tickets to “The Lorax”. It was a hoot!
Not all ComicCons are like the big one in San Diego but all of them will have people in costumes and lots of *ahem* different people.
“Aurora Shooter Militant Occupy Black Bloc Member?”
Nope. Just a science nerd that developed adult-onset schizophrenia.
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