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Aurora Shooter Militant Occupy Black Bloc Member?
WEB Commentary ^ | July 21, 2012 | Sher Zieve

Posted on 07/21/2012 5:17:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Private Detective Bill Warner is reporting at his site that the Aurora, CO theatre mass murderer James E. Holmes was apparently a member of the Occupy movement’s “elite” militant and violent Black Bloc unit. There is also a photo on the site showing Holmes being arrested by what appear to be San Diego police.

We already know that Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi and a number of other Democrat lawmakers have praised the Occupy “movement” and Obama-mentor and boss George Soros has heavily financed it. Now, with the Black Bloc Uber-violent segment and its apparent hit-man James Holmes beginning to look, sound and feel like another ObamaFriend Bill Ayers’ Weather Underground, we finally know who is really behind this violence.

The new Batman movie--third of the trilogy--is extremely critical of the Occupy movement. It strongly appears that Holmes didn’t like that characterization. So, he killed 12 people and injured at least 71 others with a hail of bullets directed at the moviegoers. If Holmes’ tie in to the Occupy Black Bloc unit is allowed to come to the light of day, it will finally be known that the Obama Police State will no longer allow anyone to even listen to those who criticize the dictator.

Every day now we are reminded that we have, indeed, reached that critical time in our country’s history to decide whether we want to live in Luciferian tyranny and suppression as slaves under the growing Obama police state or fight and perhaps die to bring back and ensure liberty for our children and grandchildren.

The Obama War has begun on multiple fronts and, also, includes roving gangs of black teens who are seeking out non-blacks (especially whites) to maim and kill. These are happening more and more frequently and do not appear to be waning. Under Obama’s rule, the USA has not only become a 3rd world country but, Obama has driven race relations to all time lows…if not into non-existence.

It is now apparent that Obama and his operatives will do anything to reelect the usurper;. Even murder--including this latest version of Ayers’ Weather Underground--may no longer be an obstacle. Will We-the-People have the courage, will and honor to stop him? Will we? We may be forced to decide that answer even sooner than we anticipated.

“Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin”--James 4:17

UPDATED Occupy Black Bloc Member James E. Holmes Shoots Up Aurora Co Movie Theater Killing 12 And Wounding 50, Batman Movie Slams OWS.:

Obama Praises Occupy movement:

Pelosi Gets Behind Occupy Wall Street:

The Secrets of Soros, Obama, Occupiers and the MSM (Part 2 of 3):


The George Soros Connection to 'Occupy Wall Street':

A few links to Black Mobs Attacking Whites:

TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Conspiracy; Local News; Politics
KEYWORDS: colorado; hysteria; jamesholmes; occubots; occupy; occupyblackbloc; occutardation; occutards; occuturds; ows; speculation
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To: Sherman Logan

My thoughts exactly.

21 posted on 07/21/2012 6:14:38 PM PDT by Random_User_250
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To: Strategerist

“3) That this keeps getting posted is an embarrassment to FR.”

THIS! Some people are acting no better than Brian Ross. There is no proof that the person at the rally is the same person charged in Aurora.

This kind of repetitive crap needs to stop and those posting it should be blocked from posting for a period of time.

22 posted on 07/21/2012 6:31:52 PM PDT by MDspinboyredux
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sounds like a lot of conjecture and no evidence. However, I went to see Batman and it turned my stomach. It is a recruitment movie for the Occupy crowd. Where every rich person is evil and the masses will revolt against their entitled slave owners and be justified in beating and raping them. A disgusting piece of propaganda. Every slogan ever utter by the Occupy Crowd was embedded in the script. It is no wonder wild speculation has legs.

23 posted on 07/21/2012 6:38:52 PM PDT by BushCountry (I hope the Mayans are wrong!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

From what I have heard so far I doubt he was an active member of any group.

24 posted on 07/21/2012 6:41:03 PM PDT by ThomasThomas
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To: ThomasThomas

Yeah, you can view the past five years and find little else on activity other than online gaming and classes. He may have drifted off over the past twelve months with some risky personal behavior...probably related to some medication that he started taking. At some point...some connection to bi-polar will pop up, and the old medication versus the new medication problem will pop up.

25 posted on 07/21/2012 7:01:11 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: RavenATB

OWS stepped forward and gave up DNA when NYPD said DNA matched to a murder victim from 2004. .

Many innocent 99%’ers were murdered in this theater. I do think Occupy would step forward—as much as I despise them, I believe that.

Maybe I am a fool but I overall I still believe in the decency of our fellow man, even when I don’t agree with them.

26 posted on 07/21/2012 7:04:24 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Strategerist
I saw the photo of him getting arrested in San Diego. He was a member of OWS Black Bloc, as stated today on their own website:

I have observed your subversive disinformation tactics for years, and can't believe you haven't been outed long before now. Knock it off.

We just ain't smelling that crap you're selling.


27 posted on 07/21/2012 7:09:05 PM PDT by Gargantua ("Dedicated to the removal of the Islamic Regime in America")
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To: Parley Baer

I am waiting to see what comes out.

I suspect that if this story is true , we won’t be seeing much of it.

The truth will eventually come out and I suspect this story is probably right.

28 posted on 07/21/2012 7:19:11 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No evidence exists to suggest he had any political views.

29 posted on 07/21/2012 7:25:41 PM PDT by ElPaseo
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To: Strategerist
Good evening.

I have viewed a number of videos that stated Holmes was a part of the OWS crowd. In two of them it looks like him, but I can't and wouldn't confirm that it was in front of a jury.

Methinks if the LEO finds more information, and doesn't suppress the evidence, he may be confirmed as a OWS piece of trash.

File this post under "it remains to be proved." Proved being the operative word.


30 posted on 07/21/2012 7:29:36 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Gargantua
Look again please, there is no proof, that photo is NOT of San Diego police (has been debunked on FR numerous times). The claim on their website was actually quoting the Florida detective SPECULATION that he was OWS.

At his time, there is no evidence. And Strategerist is right on in this case. Shame on you.

31 posted on 07/21/2012 7:31:53 PM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: ElPaseo

Belonging to Occupy Wall Street’s Black Bloc suggests you’re wrong, Mister or Miss IJustGotHereLastWeek.

32 posted on 07/21/2012 7:34:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: muawiyah

ICD-10 criteria for Schiz

1. Characteristic symptoms: Two or more of the following, each present for much of the time during a one-month period (or less, if symptoms remitted with treatment).

2. Delusions

3. Hallucinations

4. Disorganized speech, which is a manifestation of formal thought disorder

5. Grossly disorganized behavior (e.g. dressing inappropriately, crying frequently) or catatonic behavior

6. Negative symptoms: Blunted affect (lack or decline in emotional response), alogia (lack or decline in speech), or avolition (lack or decline in motivation)

7. If the delusions are judged to be bizarre, or hallucinations consist of hearing one voice participating in a running commentary of the patient’s actions or of hearing two or more voices conversing with each other, only that symptom is required above. The speech disorganization criterion is only met if it is severe enough to substantially impair communication.

8. Social or occupational dysfunction: For a significant portion of the time since the onset of the disturbance, one or more major areas of functioning such as work, interpersonal relations, or self-care, are markedly below the level achieved prior to the onset.
Significant duration: Continuous signs of the disturbance persist for at least six months. This six-month period must include at least one month of symptoms (or less, if symptoms remitted with treatment).
I’ve worked with them. They can’t organize the way this man could. No blunted affect. He is spitting on doors and guards. He may have delusions but that’s not strictly Schiz. Lots of disorders have delusions. But the big thing is the timeline. If he didn’t have any symptoms before this, he is not Schiz.

ICD-10 criteria for BPD

1. frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment. Note: Do not include suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in Criterion 5.

2. a pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation.

3. identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self.

4. impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., spending, sex, substance abuse, reckless driving, binge eating). Note: Do not include suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in Criterion 5.

5. recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, or threats, or self-mutilating behavior

6. affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability, or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days).

7. chronic feelings of emptiness

8. inappropriate, intense anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights)

9. transient, stress-related paranoid ideation or severe dissociative symptoms

The DSM IV goes on to say:

The essential feature of Borderline Personality Disorder is a pervasive pattern of instability of interpersonal relationships, self-image, and affects, and marked impulsivity that begins by early adulthood and is present in a variety of contexts.
His mother had a bumpersticker from a group which supports those who self-mutilate and if the bio on the hook-up site is actually him, he lists himself with a small penis. Dying his hair red was not to make him look like the “Joker” (who’s hair is green). It’s part of this disorder.

Trust me. BPD is a very dangerous disorder. People can function for a very long time before they blow. They are a little weird but functional. The kind of needy person who was “quiet and didn’t bother anyone”. Then you find out he had an ex-whatever who was trying to avoid him.

33 posted on 07/21/2012 7:44:04 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: muawiyah

Add this to it...

34 posted on 07/21/2012 8:11:14 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet this for future reference.

If this is true, it is huge! It have been clear that “Occupy whatever...” wants blood to run in the streets, but if he can be traced to their leadership and publicly outed as such, AND this gets national media attention is could awaken the entire nation to what is going on in the name of political/electoral manipulation.

35 posted on 07/21/2012 8:11:42 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!"
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To: Strategerist
The Private Detective is SPECULATING. If you read the site he has no actual evidence whatsoever that Holmes is in the OWS.


But it keeps getting posted because some people want to believe it, regardless of evidence.

36 posted on 07/21/2012 8:17:28 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Irenic
I don't give anyone affiliated with OWS to be motivated by anything other than cash flow.

Pay them and they will come.

37 posted on 07/21/2012 8:18:41 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

And this...

38 posted on 07/21/2012 8:23:38 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: netmilsmom
Red/Green colorblindness is exceedingly common among males.

So he dyed his hair red or green ~ it'd make no difference to him!

39 posted on 07/21/2012 8:24:01 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Strategerist
I never get you. For as many years as I have been reading your posts you are always trying to shut down people looking for information if they start speculating and showing links to possible liberal or islamic causes. It is like your own special little mission to dissuade searches and information finding.

Nobody is stating anything is proven yet but are posting what they are finding whether it turns out can be proven true or not. I think it is all over Freerepublic that nothing is proven yet in post after post.

Instead of just speculating that they are wrong and constantly trying to shut the search down which is what makes Freerepublic special by belittling what people are coming up with, prove they are wrong and add something. Otherwise I have long thought you were nothing but troll.

Freerepublic is the site I go to to look at news because this site though conservative will not give conservatives slack if they are wrong, nor will they give news items slack if it looks bad for the conservative side either because someone is always willing to post something to disprove a lie and do so over and over until it is shown to be true. Here truth is more important than propaganda when it comes to facts.

By the time something left wing or islamic is proven about this guy the MSN will have long since moved on and nobody will know about let the people at Freererpublic alone to search.

40 posted on 07/21/2012 8:31:24 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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