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Convoluting Math - Betraying Our Children's Future
Maggie's Notebook ^ | 7-27-12 | Maggie@MaggiesNotebook

Posted on 07/28/2012 9:38:35 AM PDT by maggiesnotebook

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To: kabumpo
kabumpo, I tried to carry on a civil conversation with you and what you did was say that my response was so lacking that I proved your point.

That's pompous or arrogant, whichever. So I responded by telling you that your were a pompous ass, perhaps arrogant ass would have been better but whatever.

Yes I did not appreciate your curt response to what was legitimate conversation and bluntly told you so. If you don't like that try a more reasonable approach with whoever you might be exchanging with in the future. It won't be me as I recognize people who are arrogant or pompous and for the most part choose not to deal with them.

I might add that along with reading and comprehension comes communication at which you sadly fail.

41 posted on 07/29/2012 10:12:51 AM PDT by billva
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
The khan academy is a great website. I do agree with teaching alternate methods, but if that means ignoring traditional methods that work for most students then I don't agree.

One Thing that you can, and should, do is teach, or least approve of, alternate methods that will work for students who may not comprehend the traditional method. Or use it in an example that might interest them.

42 posted on 07/29/2012 10:18:19 AM PDT by billva
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To: billva
The khan academy is a great website. I do agree with teaching alternate methods, but if that means ignoring traditional methods that work for most students then I don't agree.
The fundamental ideas of the Khan web site are: That paradigm can produce education without teachers or coaches, given a self-motivated learner. Given teacher or coach, the Khan web site maximizes the utility of the teacher by The Khan paradigm allows for self-pacing and for any exogenous motivation the teacher can provide. But the signal benefit of Khan is that you aren’t paying teachers to “reinvent the wheel” by doing lectures which are inherently one-size-fits-nobody. The lectures are done once, but the auditing of those lectures is unlimited.

The Khan Academy provides one particular lecture from one particular lecturer for each topic. In principle the paradigm would be unchanged if there were multiple lectures from multiple lecturers are available for each topic. I don’t claim that, in principle, no lecture by Khan can be excelled by any other lecturer. But with his free lecture Khan provides a minimum which any other lecturer must seek to at least in some sense excel, in order that his lecture be worth anyone’s attention.

The benefit of the canned lecture which is free and readily paused and repeated makes live, in-person lectures difficult to justify - especially if it comes at the expense of scarce student-teacher direct interaction. Let other lecturers assay to excel the utility of the Salman Khan lecture, by all means. But don’t expect the live lecture to ever fit the student as well as the canned lecture which the student views when, as, and if he needs it.


43 posted on 07/29/2012 12:37:23 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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The Kahn web site is also being used in tutor centers and math labs at many colleges and as supplementary material in K - 12 schools. And of course many students find their own way there.


44 posted on 07/30/2012 5:18:52 AM PDT by billva
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