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Posted on 07/30/2012 7:25:04 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica

Fabian Socialists believe in "the inevitability of gradualness", and "making haste, slowly". There is an active description of this. In a book titled "Hand and Brain", which is a symposium of socialist essays, George Bernard Shaw explains on page 107 in an essay titled "The Illusions of Socialism"(which starts on page 87)

At the other extremity you have the typical Fabian, who flatly declares that there will be no revolution; that there is no class war; that the wage earners are far more conventional, prejudiced, and "bourgeois" than the middle class; that there is not a single democratically constituted authority in England, including the House of Commons, that would not be much more progressive if it were not restrained by fear of the popular vote; that Karl Marx is no more infallible than Aristotle or Bacon, Ricardo or Buckle, and like them, made mistakes which are now plain to any undergraduate;

that a professed Socialist is neither better nor worse morally than a Liberal or Conservative, nor a working-man than a capitalist; that the working-man can alter the present system if he chooses, whereas the capitalist cannot because the working man will not let him; that it is perverse stupidity to declare in one breath that the working-classes are starved, degraded, and left in ignorance by a system which heaps victuals, education, and refinement on the capitalist, and to assume in the next that the capitalist is a narrow, sordid scoundrel, and the working-man a high minded, enlightened, magnanimous philanthropist; that Socialism will come by prosaic instalments of public regulation and public administration enacted by ordinary parliaments, vestries, municipalities, parish councils, school boards, and the like;

and that not one of these instalments will amount to a revolution. or will occupy a larger place in the political program of its day than a Factory Bill or a County Government Bill now does: all this meaning that the lot of the Socialist is to be one of dogged political drudgery, in conflict, not with the wicked machinations of the capitalist, but with the stupidity, the narrowness, in a word the idiocy (using the word in its precise and original meaning) of all classes, and especially of the class which suffers most by the existing system.

There are a lot of people out there who do not take the Fabians seriously, or Bernard Shaw, or any others who may be like them. Big mistake. Look at where we're at today.

James Madison said:

I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.

Madison was right. So too, was Ronald Reagan:

Now it doesn't require expropriation or confiscation of private property or business to impose socialism on a people. What does it mean whether you hold the deed to the -- or the title to your business or property if the government holds the power of life and death over that business or property?

I hope my readers don't get tired of me using this portion of Reagan's "Time for Choosing", because it's just so dead on accurate.


TOPICS: History
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1 posted on 07/30/2012 7:25:08 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica
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To: ProgressingAmerica
Ultimately, property rights and personal rights are the same thing.

-Calvin Coolidge.
2 posted on 07/30/2012 7:28:38 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

I’ve asked it before- Were the soviet-era propagandists as eagerly willing as the current US media?


3 posted on 07/30/2012 7:29:29 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum [of good]")
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To: cripplecreek
What prudent merchant will hazard his fortunes in any new branch of commerce when he knows not that his plans may be rendered unlawful before they can be executed?

- James Madison.
4 posted on 07/30/2012 7:30:48 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: SatinDoll; headsonpikes; TheCause; 1forall; foundedonpurpose; Silentgypsy; skinkinthegrass; ...
If anybody wants on/off the revolutionary progressivism ping list, send me a message

Progressives do not want to discuss their own history. I want to discuss their history.

Summary: This reads like a prophetic calling of sorts, given the last century of progressivism in America. Socialism will come with regulations and administrative boards, not a widespread revolution.

5 posted on 07/30/2012 7:30:55 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (What's the best way to reach a you tube generation? Put it on you tube!)
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To: cripplecreek

“Silent Cal” turns out to have been one heck of a good conservative

I wish Romney would tell the press to stuff-it, there will be no more daily press brifiengs, in fact- get with of the press room


6 posted on 07/30/2012 7:31:03 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum [of good]")
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To: ProgressingAmerica

The US was socialized over 20 years ago. Socialists just are never satiated with what they have until they’ve destroyed everything, and then are still ungrateful.


7 posted on 07/30/2012 7:33:25 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Mr. K
I made and ordered a "Cal" shirt for myself yesterday.

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It doesn't have the name on it but on the back it says. "Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong." Calvin Coolidge.
8 posted on 07/30/2012 7:36:51 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Mr. K

Without a Marxist owned and operated media, the slide into severe socoialist and communist inspirations could not become so developed. America was naieve about Obama, and failed to believe he was anything but pretty, black, well spoken and savy. The media built him and have led him, in coordination with Valerie, & Mika the morning parrot of MSNBC.


9 posted on 07/30/2012 7:46:41 AM PDT by RitaOK (NO ROMNEY, NO COMPROMISE. NO WAY. NO HOW. NOT NOW. NOT EVER.)
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To: cripplecreek; Mr. K
“Silent Cal” turns out to have been one heck of a good conservative

Indeed.

Coolidge was the last President to significantly reduce that national debt.

It went from $22.25 billion on 30 June 1923 to $16.93 billion on 30 June 1929

GDP growth and investment were outstanding.

10 posted on 07/30/2012 7:47:33 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: ProgressingAmerica
socialism is here now... they are working on communism... and when you see neighbors arrested or killed by jack booted thugs... it will be too late and the communists will have won. Can we win... yes... but not with a team (gop/e) that are working for the same goals that the socialists are working for.

LLS

11 posted on 07/30/2012 7:49:52 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

The LEFT does EVERYTHING Incrementally!It’s akin to”boiling a frog”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


12 posted on 07/30/2012 8:23:44 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Is not the U.N. the major tool of the Progressive movement?

Is not the U.N. asserting authority whether they have been granted authority anywhere they can?

We can find the U.N. IPCC in the owner’s manuals of various European built cars. We can find the U.N. ICLEI in local communities throughout the United States, and I’m certain other Nations as well.

There’s evidence of the assertiveness of the Progressive Movement via the U.N. in many places.

Assertiveness of authority unchecked is establishment of authority.

Soon they will become the World authority as we sit by, and allow their assertivness to replace our own authority.

Just a thought.


13 posted on 07/30/2012 9:02:53 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Mr. K
There is this, from Paul Johnson's Modern Times

"Meanwhile, down among the structures, Lenin worked very fast. It is significant that when he had so much else to do, he gave priority to controlling the press. In September, just before the putsch, he had publicly called for 'a much more democratic' and 'incomparably more complete' freedom of the press.

In fact under the republic the press had become as free as in Britain or France. Two days after he seized power, Lenin ended this freedom with a decree on the press. As part of 'certain temporary, extraordinary measures', any newspapers 'calling for open resistance or insubordination to the Workers' or Peasants' Government', or 'sowing sedition through demonstrably slanderous distortions of fact', would be suppressed and their editors put on trial. By the next day the government had closed down ten Petrograd newspapers; ten more were shut the following week. Management of the news was entrusted primarily to the Bolshevik party newspaper, Pravda, and the paper of the Soviets, Isvestia, now taken over by Sovnarkom."

14 posted on 07/30/2012 9:28:01 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: ProgressingAmerica

sfl


15 posted on 07/30/2012 10:41:41 AM PDT by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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Correction:

It’s “inevitability of gradualism”, not “inevitability of gradualness”. Small difference, I know.


16 posted on 07/30/2012 12:02:52 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (What's the best way to reach a you tube generation? Put it on you tube!)
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To: rockinqsranch

Is not the U.N. the major tool of the Progressive movement?

Is not the U.N. asserting authority whether they have been granted authority anywhere they can?

We can find the U.N. IPCC in the owner’s manuals of various European built cars. We can find the U.N. ICLEI in local communities throughout the United States, and I’m certain other Nations as well.

There’s evidence of the assertiveness of the Progressive Movement via the U.N. in many places.

Assertiveness of authority unchecked is establishment of authority.

Soon they will become the World authority as we sit by, and allow their assertivness to replace our own authority.

Just a thought.

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You are correct in identifying the Hiss et al-designed UN as a creature of American Socialism.

The US Establishment is smarter than the clumsy Russians and brutal Germans, you know...


17 posted on 07/30/2012 1:16:47 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: ProgressingAmerica
Obama is a socialist, pure and simple. I've always thought he's a communist at heart, but is doing the incremental Fabian socialist route because he has to. Does anyone have any doubt what he would do if he had no constraints?

It's your call America!

18 posted on 07/30/2012 9:35:46 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: RitaOK

Blah blah blah.

Conservatives are selling out America as fast as liberals.

We need PATRIOTS to stop selling everything, and bring back American jobs.

Now.


19 posted on 07/30/2012 9:39:03 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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