Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

How to Destroy A Boy in One Sentence
American Thinker ^ | July 31, 2011 | Stella Paul

Posted on 07/31/2012 5:05:45 AM PDT by Trafalgar123

Walking home this morning, I saw a frizzy-haired mother with a lefty vibe and Savonarola expression. Her young son ran in front of her, chasing pigeons. I listened, awestruck, as she admonished him thusly: "In your next life, I hope you come back as a pigeon, so you know what that feels like." Confused, the boy said, "What?" She repeated her wisdom in sterner tones.

I'm dazzled by her genius at packing several soul-crushing blows into one sentence:

1) You're going to be reincarnated as punishment

2) Your mother eagerly awaits your eternal punishment

3) Walk robotically by my side at all times and make no impromptu moves

4) Birds don't like to fly

Now that I think about it, she looked like a teacher. She probably gets to do this to 30 kids all day long.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Education; Pets/Animals; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: childhood; lefties; lifehate; parenting; psychology; waronboys
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-62 next last
poor kid
1 posted on 07/31/2012 5:05:58 AM PDT by Trafalgar123
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Trafalgar123
Savonarola expression

i get this reference, but it's a pretty obscure one to use! cool though.

2 posted on 07/31/2012 5:08:50 AM PDT by xsmommy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Trafalgar123

Liberals HATE kids, even their own. They’re just obstacles to the free-sex and party life that they really crave.

Ok, maybe a bit over the top (just a bit). But seriously, would ANY parent that truly loved their kids subject them to our public schools, like the vast majority of liberal parents do?


3 posted on 07/31/2012 5:14:13 AM PDT by BobL ( It's easy to be a saint when you have nothing on the line)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: xsmommy

4 posted on 07/31/2012 5:14:34 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Trafalgar123

And then people are surprised that young white men shoot up college campuses and movie theaters. With that kind of parenting, I’m surprised we don’t have many more incidents than we do.


5 posted on 07/31/2012 5:15:29 AM PDT by txrefugee
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PBRSTREETGANG
I am OBSESSED with Rennaissance Italy!
6 posted on 07/31/2012 5:16:31 AM PDT by xsmommy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Trafalgar123

This stellar “parent” then gets in her SUV and heads to the store and in route she talks and texts, cuts off and tail gates other drivers and while in the parking lot she cuts off someone else in an attempt to get as close to the front door as possible.These ubiquitous type people make me want to puke


7 posted on 07/31/2012 5:32:48 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BobL
Liberals HATE kids, even their own.

The majority of liberal women aren't having any kids. They even have a term for it: child-free. It is very positive and empowering for them, I'm sure.

The downside for us is that becase they don't have any kids of their own to indoctrinate, they will attempt to indoctrinate other people's children instead. If the children of the conservative parents that I know are any indication, they are doing a great job of it. Almost the entire lot of them are entitled, preening, wanton little snots.

8 posted on 07/31/2012 5:35:24 AM PDT by jboot (OPSEC. It's a killjoy, but it may save your life someday.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Trafalgar123
Now that you mention it, the woman sounds like every single teacher that I ever had, save one.

It's no wonder children today are ruined.

9 posted on 07/31/2012 5:37:59 AM PDT by jboot (OPSEC. It's a killjoy, but it may save your life someday.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Trafalgar123

Except for the bizarre reference to reincarnation, what’s the fuss about?

Many boys are selfish and cruel toward animals as they discover their superiority and power over them. Most grow out of it with instruction and maturity, and develop a heart that is tender and protective of the weak.

I’d say this mother loves her son enough to instruct him, albeit from a flawed perspective.


10 posted on 07/31/2012 5:39:22 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LearsFool

Well I would say this may be her(from a local classified)
Loving Soul To Spend Time With Our Daughter Manchester, CT 06042 Occasional (as needed)

Hi there, my daughter will be turning 4 in August. We’ve never really had a babysitter for her, other than my parents, but I am feeling like it would be really nice to have another person or 2 we could call upon to watch her when we have plans, events, etc that come up. Here’s a bit about us: I am an artist & living food chef. I also teach classes and do consults. Her dad does freelance film work, so his schedule is different every week, he is not always here. My daughter is with me most of the time right now. We eat mostly raw, mostly vegetarian, super food-enriched, nutrient-dense diet, food is sacred & we really care about what we put in our bodies. We love to have tea parties, make lots of art, we have a big garden in our front yard, we’re very Eco-friendly, pretty crunchy kinda people.. One requirement I have for anyone coming into my home is no chemicals/fragrances, as I am pretty sensitive, no perfumes, scented body care products (aside from natural essential oils), fabric softeners, etc. We use all natural everything. My daughter is a magical little love, she’s super independent, intelligent, and knows what she wants and does not want, she has always been that way. She loves art, playing outside, riding her bike, gardening, water, sand, animals, reading, singing, helping. She wants her hands in everything I’m doing. We’ve practiced attachment parenting with her from the start, so it would be great if you had an understanding of that, we’ve nursed, co-slept, cloth-diapered, we always wore her in carriers, we are very holistically-minded. We’ve also been learning about NVC & trying to use that in our communications. Even since before my daughter was born, I’ve been very attracted to Waldorf education & Rudolf Steiner and it is totally in alignment with our values and passions. I would love to find someone to spend time with her who is really passionate about teaching and guiding in a child-led kind of way, and who maybe knows something about Waldorf-style education, and who is creative, fun and kind. I am really looking for someone who understands our values about food, eco-friendliness, parenting, communicating, etc and preferably is living in a similar way. As far as payment goes, we can pay in $, and I often barter as well sometimes, if that’s something you’re interested in. Raw foods, etc. Thank you! Blessings & Blissings!


11 posted on 07/31/2012 5:42:37 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Trafalgar123

to me, the worst part is the opening to the “you are going to die” truth which to a child is just under “Mommy & Daddy will die”.


12 posted on 07/31/2012 5:46:59 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: jboot

“The downside for us is that becase they don’t have any kids of their own to indoctrinate, they will attempt to indoctrinate other people’s children instead.”

Yea - they self-appoint themselves as “child-experts”, write books, take over our schools, etc.

And we conservatives, in large number at least, march our kids RIGHT INTO THEIR JAWS, thinking that they “must be good people”, just trying to help us make their kids into good, American, adults.


13 posted on 07/31/2012 5:47:23 AM PDT by BobL ( It's easy to be a saint when you have nothing on the line)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: t1b8zs
Her dad does freelance film work, so his schedule is different every week, he is not always here.

Considering that "mom" is a walking, talking (incessantly?) pile of neuroses, I can't say that I blame him ... He should have thought of that, though, before he procreated with her. His poor daughter is likely to grow up even more screwed up than "mom".

14 posted on 07/31/2012 5:48:54 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Trafalgar123

“I’m dazzled by her genius at packing several soul-crushing blows into one sentence: “

6) Your mother is an idiot


15 posted on 07/31/2012 5:56:06 AM PDT by ari-freedom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BobL

There are some relatives of mine who hate/hated their own kids and they aren’t liberals.


16 posted on 07/31/2012 6:03:43 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Obama 07/22/12: "we all reflect on how we can do something about some of the senseless violence...")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Trafalgar123

Parents say lots of things without thinking. Maybe the mother was simply exasperated with her child’s antics and had already told him not to do it before the author came along. Maybe she was tired and the boy was being a little b*stard; Kids do that, you know. Then again, maybe she is an idiot and a tree hugging nutbag. Maybe it’s all of these at once. I wasn’t there so it’s hard to say.

I just know I had to Google “Savonarola.”


17 posted on 07/31/2012 6:09:27 AM PDT by servo1969
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Trafalgar123
Walking home this morning, I saw a frizzy-haired mother with a lefty vibe and Savonarola expression.

And let's not forget what happened to Savonarola!
18 posted on 07/31/2012 6:10:07 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I love to hear you talk talk talk, but I hate what I hear you say."-Del Shannon)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LearsFool
Most grow out of it with instruction and maturity, and develop a heart that is tender and protective of the weak.

The rest of us grow up to become hunters.

19 posted on 07/31/2012 6:12:24 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: t1b8zs

Ah, you’ve met my wife!

That’s why I always drive.


20 posted on 07/31/2012 6:13:04 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: ari-freedom
“I’m dazzled by her genius at packing several soul-crushing blows into one sentence: “ 6) Your mother is an idiot

Strange as it may seem, when I was quite young I asked mom why she liked the white meat on chicken better than the dark. She said it was because it is much juicier. I questioned her wisdom from that day forward.

You can only imagine how much I've questioned others...LOL

I hope this boy wakes up soon.

21 posted on 07/31/2012 6:16:18 AM PDT by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Last Dakotan
The rest of us grow up to become hunters.

Go for the kill shot, son. That way the animal won't suffer. (Just because we're going to eat it doesn't mean we get to torture it first.)
22 posted on 07/31/2012 6:24:22 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: houeto
Yes, do not underestimate childrens innate ability to rebel against stupidity. The children of hippie-dippie granola eaters often end up as “Rush Babies”!
23 posted on 07/31/2012 6:29:00 AM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: Trafalgar123
My 10 YO son received a life lesson this past Sunday.

On the way to a family function, I dropped her off at Walmart (the entrance on the right side of the building). I thought I was making it easier for all of us by parking in a handicapped spot.

After 20 minutes of sitting in 100+ degree heat (windows open, of course), I pulled out my cell phone to ascertain exactly where in Hades she was. Turns out she had been waiting at the other entrance for at least 10 minutes, and she was not at all pleased about it.

I pulled up to the side, and she was assisted by an attendant in loading the few bags she had. She says it was eight, but you know how liberal are the cashiers are with the bags at Walmart.

After ragging on me for several minutes as to how inattentive I was (cars were blocking my view of the other entrance, and I was expecting her to come out of the original entrance), she launched into a mild tirade on our son, for not helping her load the bags in the car. I didn't think it was such a big thing, as we were in the fire lane, not the parking area.

I felt bad for my son, but I knew it was best to let sleeping dogs lie. Yesterday, we had a good discussion: when Mom's PO'ed, just stay quiet until the storm passes. No matter how "right" you are, you won't win.

24 posted on 07/31/2012 6:36:45 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (My dream ticket for 2012 is John Galt & Dagny Taggart!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: xsmommy
I am OBSESSED with Rennaissance Italy!

The observer should have gone Sigismundo Malatesta on the hippie mom.

25 posted on 07/31/2012 6:41:35 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (not voting for the lesser of two evils)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: t1b8zs

OMG. I would not let a child within a hundred miles of those neurotic creatures.


26 posted on 07/31/2012 6:43:07 AM PDT by jboot (OPSEC. It's a killjoy, but it may save your life someday.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: t1b8zs
She would be utterly dismayed at my baby sitting skills.

My work schedule allows me every other Monday off. Yesterday, my soon to be 2 YO grandson spent the day with me (and his 10YO uncle).

In the morning, we had a massive Nerf gunfight (breakfast was Lucky Charms & juice, and he ate just the marshmallows). Lunch was spent at Chick Fil A, and the boys spent an hour in the play area. That was followed by two hours at the local aquatics center.

He napped all of 15 minutes...after swimming. I had to wake the poor kid up, as his uncle had Taekwondo practice. He was dragging serious butt when his Mom picked him up.

27 posted on 07/31/2012 6:43:50 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (My dream ticket for 2012 is John Galt & Dagny Taggart!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: houeto
When I was a young kid I did not like to eat boiled cabbage.
We had a rather large garden and in that garden we had cabbage plants.
Thus, we had a lot of cabbage.
Once I asked my Mother why I had to eat cabbage since I did not like it.
She gave the eternal Mother advice that it was "good" for me.
I asked My Pop why he did not eat the cabbage.
He looked up at me and being the wry and somewhat terse Scotsman he was he said, "Makes me fart."
From this I learned two things:
Farting was not socially acceptable outside the family circle.
Food that my Mother thought was "good" for me might have certain disadvantages that I had better take into consideration.

This was the beginning of distrust and suspicion of authority figures that would develop over the years.
Strange as it may be; I now like boiled cabbage...especially with butter.
(I also rather enjoy letting loose a flamboyant flatulence on the odd occasion)
28 posted on 07/31/2012 6:45:15 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: t1b8zs

That sounds very much like a family at our church. They have raised their children the same way and are quite arrogant about how much better their kids are than your kids. The father even slipped one time and complained about his kid having to share space with the other “drooling morons” in the church nursery.


29 posted on 07/31/2012 6:57:33 AM PDT by subaru
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Last Dakotan

The rest of us grow up to become hunters.


I have found hunters to be among the most GENUINELY tender and protective of the weak.

As opposed to the liberal progressive kind that turns off as soon as the camera does.


30 posted on 07/31/2012 6:57:43 AM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: ArrogantBustard
I know a family that could be this one. Dad is an IT guy and basically works 24/7. Mom could be the same "womyn" as is in the ad...her lifestyle and hangups are identical. Thier teen daughter is basically a feral human. She rarely speaks to anyone except her mother. When her parents aren't around she spends most of her time hiding (lterally-in trees, closets, behind furniture). Conversely, when she has the "upper hand" (i.e. when she is around younger or smaller kids) she is agressive and sometimes violent. If she comes to an activity where food is involved there is always a drama. She can't eat or drink anything except stuff her mom sends and a certain brand of cereal (Barbara's, I think).

IMHO, this kind of parenting is child abuse.

31 posted on 07/31/2012 7:01:05 AM PDT by jboot (OPSEC. It's a killjoy, but it may save your life someday.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: subaru

That sounds very much like a family at our church. They have raised their children the same way and are quite arrogant about how much better their kids are than your kids. The father even slipped one time and complained about his kid having to share space with the other “drooling morons” in the church nursery


God gave us the “pimp smack” for people such as that. I’ve seen the same type, too. Few, but a couple nonetheless.

I have absolutely nothing to do with them.


32 posted on 07/31/2012 7:02:36 AM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: Trafalgar123

A boy like this will often show up in my office twenty to forty years later, still a boy in many ways, with one form of inner turmoil or another. I see them all the time.

I will tell him I can help him, but that it will take a year and a half to three years of rather painful therapy, and that he’ll want to drop out many times along the way, BUT - that if he sticks it out I can guarantee he’ll walk out the man he always envied others for being.

And when they stick it out, they do. Just like clockwork. It almost doesn’t matter what we talk about, but we certainly don’t to talk much about the mother who quashed his spirit for her own needs years ago.

The therapy is nothing fancy, but needs to be informed by an understanding of the territory, and the basics of technique. Essentially, we talk about him, who he is, not who his mother wanted him to be. He gradually allows himself to enter the painful void at his core where his sense of worth ought to be - and would be if his mother hadn’t snuffed it out; an empty, lonely, fearful, angry pain so horrible that he has pathologically arranged his whole inner and outer life in an effort to avoid it.

And one day, like clockwork, in a year and a half to three years, for no apparent reason, the result of no clever interpretation or insight from me, he walks in completely changed - a man. He got it. He filled the void his mom left him with, and filled it with things important to him, not her. He walks in like a man. He holds himself like a man. He talks like a man. And it’s solid, unshakable and permanent, and we say our goodbyes like two men, with a solid handshake and a solid look in the eye.


33 posted on 07/31/2012 7:08:47 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tainan
I love boiled cabbage. Mom hates it.

That said, it turns out that every food my mom said was "healthy" is most pointedly NOT heathy, at least not in quantity (think fried meats and potatoes). And almost everything she called "junk food" is actually good for you.

34 posted on 07/31/2012 7:09:07 AM PDT by jboot (OPSEC. It's a killjoy, but it may save your life someday.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: t1b8zs

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.


35 posted on 07/31/2012 7:13:25 AM PDT by OldMissileer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: LearsFool; 98ZJ USMC
The rest of us grow up to become hunters.

It was meant to be tongue in cheek.

36 posted on 07/31/2012 7:15:43 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: t1b8zs

I know (knew) people like them! ;-)


37 posted on 07/31/2012 7:18:03 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: BobL
Public schools destroy kids. Even "good" ones. They are the secret poison that drips endlessly into our body politic.

As long as Mr. and Mrs. America insist on sending their kids to them, this nation will continue to circle the drain.

38 posted on 07/31/2012 7:20:08 AM PDT by jboot (OPSEC. It's a killjoy, but it may save your life someday.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Trafalgar123

Sounds like reasonable parenting to me. The mother was not wishing eternal damnation on her child, but making the point that if he thought about the pigeons, he wouldn’t WANT to behave that way.


39 posted on 07/31/2012 7:21:44 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberalism: "Ex faslo quodlibet" - from falseness, anything follows)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Trafalgar123

BTW - I’ve told my grandkids that if they don’t stop climbing into the dishwasher, I’ll chain them outside and let the coyotes eat them.

Guess I’ve gone from being a horrible failure as a Dad to being a horrible failure as a Granddad.


40 posted on 07/31/2012 7:26:45 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberalism: "Ex faslo quodlibet" - from falseness, anything follows)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rockrr

Yes, the past tense is operative for me as well. Our “crunchy” family opused loudly during Sunday School one day and stormed out forever. I was sick that day and missed it.


41 posted on 07/31/2012 7:27:18 AM PDT by jboot (OPSEC. It's a killjoy, but it may save your life someday.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: jboot

And no one had the courtesy to videotape it? Damn!


42 posted on 07/31/2012 7:41:08 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: Dr. Sivana

Did Savonarola wear that cowl to hide frizzy hair?


43 posted on 07/31/2012 8:15:34 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: dagogo redux
And one day, like clockwork, in a year and a half to three years, for no apparent reason, the result of no clever interpretation or insight from me, he walks in completely changed - a man. He got it. [ . . . ]we say our goodbyes like two men, with a solid handshake and a solid look in the eye.

Too bad Woody Allen didn't pick you office decades ago. He could have saved himself a lot of money and lots of other people much grief and misery.
44 posted on 07/31/2012 8:32:50 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I love to hear you talk talk talk, but I hate what I hear you say."-Del Shannon)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: Verginius Rufus
Did Savonarola wear that cowl to hide frizzy hair?

Nah, that's what the tonsure is for.
45 posted on 07/31/2012 8:34:02 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I love to hear you talk talk talk, but I hate what I hear you say."-Del Shannon)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: Trafalgar123

Whenever I see a boy running ahead of his mother, I whisper “don’t stop; keep running.” His instincts are good. He just needs encouragement.


46 posted on 07/31/2012 8:40:07 AM PDT by Oratam
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rockrr
I wish there was tape. I heard that it got pretty heated.

Why a liberal couple came to a little down-home fire-breathing Baptist church in the first place was beyond me.

47 posted on 07/31/2012 8:53:21 AM PDT by jboot (OPSEC. It's a killjoy, but it may save your life someday.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: Trafalgar123

Maybe if he came back as a pigeon, he could poop on her head.


48 posted on 07/31/2012 9:30:13 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LearsFool
You make sense. This is one strange article.

I wouldn't assume the mother actually believes in reincarnation or wants her son to come back as an animal or that she's scarred him for life by saying something that implies that he will die some day.

There is maybe a "passive-aggressive" kind of edge to her comment, but tired parents do what they can to make their children a little more thoughtful.

The whole tribal "them against us" thing gives people a chance to unload against the presumed hippy, New Age mother, and that explains what's going on.

49 posted on 07/31/2012 4:21:36 PM PDT by x
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: x
The whole tribal "them against us" thing gives people a chance to unload against the presumed hippy, New Age mother, and that explains what's going on.

You're probably right. The article starts by describing "a frizzy-haired mother with a lefty vibe", which immediately pits us against her. *shrug*
50 posted on 07/31/2012 4:54:41 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-62 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson