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The Most Often Forgotten Survival Preparations
SHTF Plan ^ | 7/31/12 | Brandon Smith

Posted on 07/31/2012 3:47:47 PM PDT by Kartographer

Sadly, having a stockpile of food, weapons, and some slick tactical gear is not enough to ensure a high likelihood of survival, at least not in any of the social collapses that have occurred in the past century around the world. It’s a start, but only just…

There are a number of detrimental weakness to the survivalist movement and considerable holes in prepper knowledge that must be addressed now while we have the time and relative safety to do so. The greatest threat to the common survivalist is not economic collapse, roving bandits, Blackwater mercenaries, or predator drones; those dangers are a piece of cake compared to the threat of an overblown ego, which will get a man killed faster than the most sophisticated smart bomb. If we cannot accept that there is always more to learn, and room to improve, we have been defeated before we have begun.

(Excerpt) Read more at shtfplan.com ...


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The following is just a short list of the many areas in which there is obvious and acute inadequacy in the movement overall…

Secondary Retreat Locations

Physical Fitness And Health

Community Building And Networking

Barter Markets And Trade Skills

1 posted on 07/31/2012 3:48:03 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


2 posted on 07/31/2012 3:49:22 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: musicman

BFLR


3 posted on 07/31/2012 3:49:37 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Kartographer
I'm living out of the pantry until mid-Sept. Zero cash flow for 2 months now. At least I have the stuff, and know how to use it.

I really didn't want to be THIS good at the skill sets. ;)

/johnny

4 posted on 07/31/2012 3:56:55 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer

5 posted on 07/31/2012 4:08:05 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: JRandomFreeper; Kartographer

I’m stocking up on toilet paper.


6 posted on 07/31/2012 4:20:15 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: Kartographer

bfl


7 posted on 07/31/2012 4:22:10 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: bigheadfred
I've got plenty of that. After the Y2K toilet paper ran out last year, I looked at current prices, and bought another giant case before prices went any higher. I don't figure the prices are going down before I use it up.

/johnny

8 posted on 07/31/2012 4:28:08 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I am just starting out, this article aside-—I am going for my CCL, starting to stockpile (kosher folks!) and buying containers for water and fuel. Who has bought a generator? Is this a good deal? http://1saleaday.com/wireless/ what are the main specs one should look for (durability? Brand name? output?)

(moderator if links to sale sites are not permitted I beg apology after failing to ask permission...)


9 posted on 07/31/2012 4:46:36 PM PDT by Phinneous
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To: Phinneous
I have a gas generator that I use in the field while working. If you take good care of it, change the oil, use Sta-bil or run it out of gas every time, keep the filter clean.... they can be ok for a couple of thousand hours.

When I lived in the shack in the mountains and used solar and batteries for electikity... I had a 10 HP diesel to recharge the batteries during extended snow storms when the panels didn't work. That's the best long term solution.

Back here in the outskirts of town, the 5 horse gas genset is good for after the thunderstorms we get that knock out power.

After looking at the advert, it's way too expensive for too little power. Go to Lowes or Home Depot and look at gensets.

5 hp will keep a freezer, fridge, lights, and some fans running.

/johnny

10 posted on 07/31/2012 4:53:20 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Phinneous; JRandomFreeper

Take a look at this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2913038/posts


11 posted on 07/31/2012 5:16:30 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Phinneous
How Much Electricity Do Household Items Use?
12 posted on 07/31/2012 5:19:08 PM PDT by blam
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To: Kartographer

That’s all fine if you’re out in the boonies, but what about prepping for urban dwellers?

Here’s a list of must haves:

Protest signs
condoms/dental dams
glow sticks
brown/black shoe polish
cell phone (for self-defense)
beret
hard copy of Starbucks gift card

Please feel free to add.


13 posted on 07/31/2012 5:26:01 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: Kartographer

Ping-a-roo!


14 posted on 07/31/2012 5:31:07 PM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party of NO! Nobama, No Way, No How!)
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15 posted on 07/31/2012 5:31:43 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: JRandomFreeper; bigheadfred

Lol! That’s why I save phone books!


16 posted on 07/31/2012 5:32:42 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun
I buy John Wayne toilet paper in bulk. It's cheap, and it discourages over-use.

What, you ask, is John Wayne toilet paper?

It's rough as hell and doesn't take $h!t off of anyone.

/johnny

17 posted on 07/31/2012 5:44:34 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

You crack me up! Sorry about your hard times. If you’re in the Ohio Valley you can look me up. I’d be honored to help a fellow FReeper, especially one with a fantastic attitude and outlook on life.


18 posted on 07/31/2012 5:48:39 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: papertyger; Lurker; JRandomFreeper
"That’s all fine if you’re out in the boonies, but what about prepping for urban dwellers?"

That's easy a pack of the softest strongest toilet paper you can find and a pack of the best baby wipes you can buy. That way you A$$ will be nice and clean when you kiss it goodbye!
19 posted on 07/31/2012 5:49:22 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: papertyger

Sharpie’s in rainbow colors and PINs for trust fund access.


20 posted on 07/31/2012 5:52:18 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: All

Now having a few Blackwater aka Xe aka Academi guys around might not be a bad thing in a shtf scenario. Boo!


21 posted on 07/31/2012 5:53:35 PM PDT by bugs_dallas
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To: goodwithagun
I appreciate the sentiment, but I'll manage just fine. Not my first rodeo. I'll eat better than 80% of Americans. I don't want help unless I've got a spurting artery, or have to move the grand piano. ;)

/johnny

22 posted on 07/31/2012 5:56:16 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: papertyger

Okay, how about:

Mani/pedi kit
MP3 player with World music
Birkenstocks (for foraging missions)

and for the teens:

Directions to Hot Topic loaded onto iPhone
Band T-shirts
Skinny girl jeans (for boys)
Black hair dye


23 posted on 07/31/2012 6:08:20 PM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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To: JRandomFreeper

If you really want to try some survival living, eat half as much as you normally would. To stretch supplies.


24 posted on 07/31/2012 6:14:19 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Buy more than you think you need. Barter gold there.


25 posted on 07/31/2012 6:15:14 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Old Sarge
Those teens won't need that stuff if I get ahold of 'em. Ain't required to pull a plow.

Do you know how to make a kitten pull a plow? Get a big whip and aim lower.

/johnny

26 posted on 07/31/2012 6:16:23 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Old Sarge

Eye liner.

We forgot eye liner.


27 posted on 07/31/2012 6:22:20 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: Kartographer

Baby wipes are racist!


28 posted on 07/31/2012 6:24:41 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: goodwithagun

Sharpies are racist!


29 posted on 07/31/2012 6:27:05 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: JRandomFreeper

Spurting arteries are racist!


30 posted on 07/31/2012 6:29:22 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: JRandomFreeper

Kittens are racist!


31 posted on 07/31/2012 6:31:07 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: JRandomFreeper
Sorry to hear that, FRiend. You mentioned "'til mid-September"....hope that means you'll be back on track, by then.

Keepin' you in my prayers....keep us posted =)

32 posted on 07/31/2012 6:31:50 PM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Big Whips are fun!


33 posted on 07/31/2012 6:32:28 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: Jane Long
Thank you. Zero cash flow for 2 months isn't that bad, if you have a paid off house, a garden, and food for a year. I barter technical and network expertise for phone and internet service... Just living life, with it's ups and downs.

/johnny

34 posted on 07/31/2012 6:36:55 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: papertyger
Go do your chores.

/johnny

35 posted on 07/31/2012 6:38:18 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: papertyger; SortaBichy
Green cash....and then more green cash.....and then some more.

Aside...all you'd ever find at a Starbucks would be leftists, so those sh*tholes should be under the "avoid at all costs" category........you'd find yourself preached and then mooched to death by the leftists that frequent the chain.

Seriously, though -- having been on the "wrong side" of the Newhall Pass after the Northridge earthquake, wifey and I learned quicklike that when power is out for extended periods, green money still rubs palms the same way with Punjab down at the convenience store. Show up with a credit card, and you're SOL.

I guarantee you that Punjab's gonna be at his store, abacus or pocket calculator in hand......Home Depot, Walmart, Target, chain grocery stores, gas stations will be shuttered.

36 posted on 07/31/2012 6:40:56 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (A conservative, a liberal and a moderate walked into a bar; barkeep said "Hi Mitt")
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To: ErnBatavia

I ran into that with Texas rolling black outs (hate you, Ercot, for pushing wind power while everyone else keeps moving here, essentially lowering power production).
Power out. Swipe cards not working. ATM line out the door. Card carriers are going nuts. I shout out, “I can pay with cash.” I get to go to front of the line. I pay for gas with a 20. I’m out, while everyone else is sweltering and fighting.


37 posted on 07/31/2012 6:48:23 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Secret Agent Man

We tried that for 6 weeks, I lost 10 lbs. It was okay but I’d need a few more calories to maitain. It was really hard because we had ice cream and cookies and all the good, high calorie foods staring us in the face but we were very disciplined.


38 posted on 07/31/2012 6:49:42 PM PDT by tiki
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To: JRandomFreeper

BWAHAHAAA!!

Hitch ‘er up an plow the back forty!


39 posted on 07/31/2012 6:57:16 PM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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To: ErnBatavia
Green cash....and then more green cash.....and then some more.

Single best advice yet.

40 posted on 07/31/2012 6:57:57 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: papertyger

All the contents in the wife’s “lingerie” drawer.


41 posted on 07/31/2012 7:10:57 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: bigheadfred
All the contents in the wife’s “lingerie” drawer.

Do you really think it's wise to indulge a fetish during a SHTF scenario? Besides, your wife may need that stuff ;o)

42 posted on 07/31/2012 7:19:20 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: Secret Agent Man
If you really want to try some survival living, eat half as much as you normally would.

If I did that, I would die. Literally. Normal day is 1800-2400 calories while working. I weigh about 120.

Besides, I don't have to. There are enough tree rats around here in the trees and in the freezer that I can maintain that caloric intake.

They never seem to run out.

/johnny

43 posted on 07/31/2012 8:17:34 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Secret Agent Man
I'm currently not buying anything. Zero cash flow. Nada. None. I'm living on the pantry and the garden and the chickens. And, of course, forage (squirrel).

/johnny

44 posted on 07/31/2012 8:19:53 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Somehow I think you have the spurting artery scenario covered just fine.

(lit torch and a bottle of whiskey standing by)

=)


45 posted on 07/31/2012 8:35:09 PM PDT by Redcitizen (What's on your end of the world music playlist?)
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To: Redcitizen
But that piano... Oy, vey! I have told my daughters that it can be moved again AFTER I die.

/johnny

46 posted on 07/31/2012 8:53:51 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: tiki

Yes, think about looking at all your stored stuff and having to limit yourself under genuine circumstances. May be easier in some ways, but harder in others.


47 posted on 07/31/2012 9:10:06 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Yeah, you don’t have any weight to spare. I figured you might have some extra padding like me.

If you have any stuff around that you don’t need, you can try to barter or sell on craigslist for some cash flow. Consider it good practice for a barter economy. Can learn how to value things and negotiate trades, partial trades, or prices.


48 posted on 07/31/2012 9:15:19 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Don't need to. I'll have to cut back on some luxury items, but as I said, it ain't my first rodeo. No house payment, no rent, plenty of food. I'll manage.

I wasn't whining. I was pointing out the value of preparing for the unexpected.

I'll eat better than 80% of Americans since I have a culinary school graduate on staff as chef de cuisine. Me. ;)

Squirrel dumplings in ham-hock broth with wilted swiss chard and flagolet beans would cost about $12 as an appetizer course in a fine dining restaurant. I call it foraging.

I think I have 10 gallons of homebrew beer working right now.

/johnny

49 posted on 07/31/2012 9:24:37 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer
Is this 'blog pimping'? SHTF.com doesn't sound exactly like a site that would sue FR for copyright infringement.

'splain it to me.. I see others get slammed for much less.

50 posted on 07/31/2012 11:11:23 PM PDT by Looking4Truth (Leave it to some angry, frustrated liberal do-gooder to screw things up for the rest of us.)
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