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Our Odds of Beating Obama Are Better By Dumping Mitt in a Brokered Convention
RantPolitical.com ^ | 8-2-2012 | PolitiJim (@politiJim)

Posted on 08/02/2012 7:46:37 PM PDT by rightjb

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147 Degrees West (@147DW) has done a wonderful job of putting together the success rate of nominees wrought from a brokered convention.  The conclusion: Odds of Beating Obama Are Better By Dumping Mitt.

Many automatically assume that Mitt Romney is the presumptive nominee of the Republican party, and that the Tampa convention will end up being nothing more than a Guthy-Renker Romney infomercial. 

That will be news to the Lawyers for Ron Paul who have filed a little covered Federal, civil rights lawsuit, against the GOP and many state GOP parties for election fraud on behalf of the Romney campaign.  And yes; although it's no where near the extent of fraud conducted by the Obama campaign in 2008 (or even this year), it has occurred blatantly.  In many states including Maine, Missouri, Massachusetts, Oklahoma (and even Puerto Rico) votes went unrecorded or delegates were excluded from caucuses.

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1 posted on 08/02/2012 7:46:45 PM PDT by rightjb
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To: rightjb

I do not want Ron Paul to pick the nominee, or be the Nominee, no chance!

And, it won’t happen, you are dreaming!


2 posted on 08/02/2012 7:49:54 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: rightjb
Sounds like fun.

My money is on Romney dropping his campaign before he shows his 2007, 2008 and 2009 income tax returns.

He may have suffered massive losses in the derivatives market collapse, and simply carried them forward and back as far as the law allowed ~ thereby giving himself some serious money in refunds from the federales (although he did suffer some losses).

This would be similar to the trick GE used to avoid paying any income taxes at all during that same period ~ not that they didn't do anything illegal, but they got some whopping big refunds from "overwithholding" ~ Bwahahahahahahah!!!!

McCain saw NONE of that stuff!

Frankly, I think he's a rich guy who cares more for his money than anything else ~ but we shall see, eh.

3 posted on 08/02/2012 7:54:26 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: rightjb

You’re full of crap.


4 posted on 08/02/2012 7:54:38 PM PDT by Lucas McCain ("The day may come when the courage of men will fail, but not this day.")
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To: rightjb

Um, no. Not gonna happen. Come back to planet earth.


5 posted on 08/02/2012 7:55:05 PM PDT by Drew68 (I WILL vote to defeat Barack Hussein Obama!)
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To: Lucas McCain
You’re full of crap.

You said it much better than I did.

6 posted on 08/02/2012 7:57:33 PM PDT by Drew68 (I WILL vote to defeat Barack Hussein Obama!)
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To: rightjb

I am amazed this level of idiocy is permitted on Free Republic.


7 posted on 08/02/2012 7:57:33 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (John Roberts did more to endanger the lives of Americans than all 9/11 hijackers combined.)
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To: muawiyah

You sound like a class-warfare libtard. I take it you’re shilling for 0bama or a Paulite. Not gonna happen.


8 posted on 08/02/2012 7:58:43 PM PDT by mplsconservative (Impeach Obama Now!)
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To: rightjb

And replace him with who? We’re stuck with the Mittens so better ride that horse with gusto to the finish line.


9 posted on 08/02/2012 7:59:59 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Look around some. You’ll find a disturbing amount.


10 posted on 08/02/2012 8:00:03 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (What if there is no tomorrow? There wasn't one today.)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
I am amazed this level of idiocy is permitted on Free Republic.

Five years ago I would've agreed. Sadly, not so much these days. This level of idiocy seems to dominate this forum.

11 posted on 08/02/2012 8:00:49 PM PDT by Drew68 (I WILL vote to defeat Barack Hussein Obama!)
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To: rightjb

Never going to happen.


12 posted on 08/02/2012 8:02:28 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears; LS
These people who keep calling for this have yet to name a candidate 1) who hasn't lost already or 2) hadn't said he/she was not interested in running.

And it is always the same people who never tell you whom they for, but rather for whom they are against.

13 posted on 08/02/2012 8:03:09 PM PDT by Perdogg (Let's leave reading things in the Constitution that aren't there to liberals and Dems)
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To: rightjb

Tell us, are you looking for a particular nutcase that published decades of racist whacko newsletters, blames the US for 9/11 and thinks Iranian nukes is just fine?


14 posted on 08/02/2012 8:04:52 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: rightjb

It isn’t going to happen, and Mitt is going to win. Democrats might have a better chance, if they give us another Carter/Kennedy debacle.


15 posted on 08/02/2012 8:05:57 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Drew68
Five years ago I would've agreed. Sadly, not so much these days.

A lot of really great Freepers were kicked off the site simply because they supported a Mormon candidate. I was one of them. I am now back under a new handle. I care too much about America to sit on the sidelines, but I'm not sure that FreeRepublic will ever regain the relevance it once had.

16 posted on 08/02/2012 8:13:03 PM PDT by SnakebiteJones ('Never think of pain or danger or enemies a moment longer than is necessary to fight them.')
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To: rightjb

Absolutely we need a brokered convention. Romney is one of the worst forms of RINO democrat in republican clothing that could be foisted on Americans.


17 posted on 08/02/2012 8:14:11 PM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: rightjb

It’s a damned shame that the Paulbots have more courage in this regard than many conservatives. In just two days Tea Party conservatives have flexed muscle in Chick-Fil-A and the Texas run-off but still we act like we have to take what is served up. I just don’t get it.


18 posted on 08/02/2012 8:19:53 PM PDT by rem_mitchell
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To: rightjb

How are you going to get a brokered convention when mittens lready has enough delegates to get the nomination on the first ballot!??

That ship done sailed!


19 posted on 08/02/2012 8:21:47 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: rightjb

Ridiculous, Romney is it! Grow up!


20 posted on 08/02/2012 8:23:15 PM PDT by TsonicTsunami08
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To: rightjb

If a true conservative comes out of the convention, they will get the base back. No one is excited about Romney (maybe mormons who think he is fulfilling a prophecy). I have yet to talk with one person who “likes” Romney and that is from republicans. Lots of people are saying there are no real choices and want nothing to do with the election. The common response is that they are all corrupt. Lots of people have a problem with Romney and all his money. I know, these are republicans, but they say he hasn’t had to live like normal people. They don’t care if he’s filthy rich, but don’t want that in a president. They also question how he got it all. As bad as obama has been, the republican nominee should be kicking his butt, Romney isn’t getting it done, and hatred of obama is not enough to move these people. Just look at FR and think about how many conservatives are not voting for Romney; and we are political junkies. The average person out there has given up on politics. The gop has to know people don’t like him by polling. Part of the problem is people are finding out what romney did in MA and say all politicians are corrupt.


21 posted on 08/02/2012 8:24:00 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: rightjb

No thanks. Don’t need the negativity and Republicans beating each other up two months before the election as it would be a great way to do the typical Republican thing of pulling defeat out of the jaws of victory. Romney is not my preferred candidate, but I can say that Obama is even farther from that description. Even my cat would be a better President than Obama, and so I am far more willing to give Romney a chance than risk having more of Mr. Awesomely-terrible.


22 posted on 08/02/2012 8:28:26 PM PDT by dajeeps
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To: rightjb

No.


23 posted on 08/02/2012 8:30:45 PM PDT by Random_User_250
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To: rightjb

Ah man, shut up and grow a brain.


24 posted on 08/02/2012 8:31:10 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: rightjb

Mitt Romney’s father was a Mexican citizen therefore Mitt Romney is not a naturalized citizen and can not hold the office of president. If Obama’s daddy is a Kenyan then he is not a naturalized citizen either, so neither legally can hold the office of president.
What is good for one is good for all.


25 posted on 08/02/2012 8:32:13 PM PDT by WilliamRobert (conservatism is a lifestyle)
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To: rightjb; Kansas58; muawiyah; Drew68; Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears; mplsconservative; ...

No matter your feelings about the chances of winning, dropping Mittens is the only way for the conservative movement to maintain its dignity. I mean, look at all these people who happily support and defend a known pathological liar? I cannot recall a more dispicable Republican nominee than Mitt Romney, who not too long ago was using his people to sabotage conservative candidates on behalf of the Democrats. Kieth Maddon, one of Romney’s top advisers, was on CNN pushing the Palin = Diva narrative on the eve of the election against Obama! And now so many “conservatives” are accusing others of somehow being unpatriotic for putting Justice before Party?

Some say it is because they love their country more. But these people can only be infidels, as it is an insult to God to pretend that such injustice can be winked at and yet expect God to “heal our land” and restore us to our former glory.

These Mittens Apologists are not conservatives. They are Republicans, which this race has made very clear. When it comes down to crunch time, they’re A-OK with the money changers in the temple SO LONG AS THEY’RE OUR MONEY CHANGERS.

In the end, this is more a spiritual problem than it is political. Too many Americans believe that WE can pull ourselves up by our bootstraps, and so they play these political games at the expense of their own principles. What better President then than Barack Obama or Mitt Romney, a pair of shallow enemies of God who wear lots of makeup and practice catch phrases in front of a mirror?


26 posted on 08/02/2012 8:34:07 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: rightjb

Just curious...are you implying Ronald Reagan was chosen in a brokered convention?


27 posted on 08/02/2012 8:37:26 PM PDT by berdie
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To: SnakebiteJones
A lot of really great Freepers were kicked off the site simply because they supported a Mormon candidate.

LIAR!!! They were kicked off for pushing an abortionist, gay-marriage facilitating liberal shill for big government (which he still is).

28 posted on 08/02/2012 8:37:50 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: dajeeps

How are you going to force the normal person who does not like romney to vote for him? I’m not talking about political junkies, but the average person who says he’s just like obama, corrupt. Yes, many of us can’t vote for someone who is pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage/adoption... We know God will hold us acccountable for giving power to someone who is ok with evil; although obama has yet to say gays should be able to adopt kids like romney said 6 or 8 weeks ago. Most Christians fear God more than they do obama.


29 posted on 08/02/2012 8:38:57 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: WilliamRobert

George Romney was born in Mexico but he was never a Mexican citizen, any more than Juan McCain was ever a citizen of Panama. George Romney even ran for President of the United States—I don’t recall anyone saying he wasn’t eligible.


30 posted on 08/02/2012 8:40:29 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: muawiyah

Romney has current net worth north of 250 million US $$.
So he may not have lost a lot of money. But enough about conjecture.

I could’nt care less how much tax Romney paid. All I care is how much will Obama raise MY taxes.

Unless Romney broke some tax laws, his tax returns are private issue and it does not affect me one iota.

What the congress and president do with taxes affects me, my family, my friends, my neighbors and the entire US economy.


31 posted on 08/02/2012 8:44:03 PM PDT by entropy12 (Hate is the most insidious emotion, it will encourage cancer cells in your body.)
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To: RaisingCain; All
Obama must go.
By any means necessary.
We can deal with Romney's shortcomings with a Conservative Republican Congress.

Yes, Romney is an SOB, but he is OUR SOB!

Obama wants to destroy our Country, Romney does not.

32 posted on 08/02/2012 8:48:43 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: rightjb

DUMP WILLARD FOR SCOTT WALKER !


33 posted on 08/02/2012 8:51:48 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: Linda Frances

I know what you mean about lack of excitement. Last week I went to a big Ted Cruz rally, and yesterday I stood out in a long line in the hot sun for Chick-Fil-A. In both locales, folks were extremely animated and talking about politics, the Tea Party, the rancid descent of the culture, cursing Obama, and all that. In neither situation did I hear a single person bring up Mitt Romney’s name. Not even once. Oh, I’m sure he’ll probably get most of their votes, owing to their stances. But I have yet to witness a single shred of enthusiasm FOR him. It’s almost surreal.


34 posted on 08/02/2012 8:51:48 PM PDT by greene66
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To: entropy12

What the congress and president do with taxes affects me, my family, my friends, my neighbors and the entire US economy.


When we watched the terrible things Clinton was doing and how our kids had to hear about things they should know nothing about, we all were angry. Aren’t we being hypocrites by accepting it from romney? How many of us went to pro-life rallies, or chick-a-fil to show we will not accept the sins that are being forced on us and our kids. It’s hard when money is tight, but when we lose our kids hearts and souls to corrupt beliefs we’ve lost the most important thing in life.

For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? Mark 8:36


35 posted on 08/02/2012 8:52:01 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: Verginius Rufus

George was a Mexican citizen till the day he died. If he was ever nationalized as a US citizen, the evidence has not been made public. Us citizenship wasn’t automatic to children of US parents born on foreign soil at that time.

Mittens is eligible for dual citizenship by having a Mexican father. All he has to do is fill out a form.


36 posted on 08/02/2012 8:54:08 PM PDT by wrench
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To: Kansas58

Mittens doesn’t care about the country, just about being President. His unlimited ambition, his progressivism disguised as conservatism, and his lack of ability to feel shame for doing evil things is arguably a bigger threat than an open enemy. On top of that, you’ll be asking us to bend over for him again 4 years later, for a total term of 8 years with no real reforms or changes. The idea that a “conservative” congress will be more effective with Mittens is silly. Even Rick Santorum back during the Bush years was saying how deficits were good for the country, since supposedly they made him weigh his votes more. The “conservatives” in congress even now won’t even defund ObozoCare or take the actions they have within their grasp. Meanwhile, Mittens and his buddies have already signaled that they favor tinkering with government to “make things better,” supposedly by virtue of not being Democrats. This includes healthcare and RomneyCare, which they eye as a replacement for ObozoCare. They also don’t even have a legitimate plan for the economy. All this is doing is maintaining mediocrity and making it Law.

Ultimately, though, whoever wins, the solution will not be political. It is a spiritual problem that must be addressed spiritually. Mittens and Obozo, two massive rats, are merely a symptom of our disease. I honestly consider it punishment from God to allow us to be represented by men who, honestly, represent us (the country as a whole) very well spiritually.


37 posted on 08/02/2012 8:56:43 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: muawiyah
Are you serious???
Only a fool pays one more penny n taxes than required. Overpaying taxes shows a lack of financial smarts
38 posted on 08/02/2012 9:02:16 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: rightjb

Wow. What utter silliness.


39 posted on 08/02/2012 9:14:41 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....The days are long, but the years are short.....)
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To: RaisingCain
Ultimately, though, whoever wins, the solution will not be political. It is a spiritual problem that must be addressed spiritually. Mittens and Obozo, two massive rats, are merely a symptom of our disease. I honestly consider it punishment from God to allow us to be represented by men who, honestly, represent us (the country as a whole) very well spiritually.

God told us CLEARLY:

2 Chronicles 7:14

If my people, which are called by my name, shall HUMBLE themselves, and PRAY, and SEEK MY FACE, and TURN FROM THERE WICKED WAYS; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and WILL HEAL THEIR LAND.

Instead, we are asked to vote with the political party that cheated and lied and for a man who is like Ahaz/Manasseh, who thought it was ok to kill innocent babies and took the things of God that was sacred (altar/tabernacle) and desecrate. Just like the people who want to take marriage and desecrate it by allowing homosexual marriage. Government did not give us marriage; God did. I am finishing a book on Ahaz, Hezekiah and Manasseh (Chronicles of the Kings) could not believe the parallels we are facing today.

40 posted on 08/02/2012 9:18:38 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: greene66

Same here, nobody is getting excited about Romney, kinda like a hurricane coming straight at you and you go to the supermarket for supplies and all you see are Greek sardines left.

That is Romney, the last item on the shelf, and people will buy his act simply because of that.

Problem is the nation needs an underdog, a hero, a come up from behind with hopeless odds of winning type of a candidate, none of this in your face its gonna happen, he is the nominee, blah blah blah whether you like it or not.

A brokered convention is what America needs, because if they don’t get it things will go CFA. We saw the spontaneousness of America, we will see it again.


41 posted on 08/02/2012 9:21:34 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (Going mobile, posts will be brief. No spellcheck for the grammar nazis.)
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To: rem_mitchell
It’s a damned shame that the Paulbots have more courage in this regard than many conservatives. In just two days Tea Party conservatives have flexed muscle in Chick-Fil-A and the Texas run-off but still we act like we have to take what is served up. I just don’t get it.

Maybe we can learn something from the left. They got to where they are by baby steps. The pattern is simply two forward and one backwards, but nevertheless they moved on with their agenda while America slept.

How often have we heard that such and such is this, so therefore I will never vote for him and sit out at home. Sounds like the Conservative Movement needs to move beyond the present and to the future.

We should take a lesson from Voltaire:

Le mieux est l'ennemi du bien.

or

The best is the enemy of the good.

We have forgotten The Eleventh Commandment of Ronald Reagan have we not?

Just look how Freepers tore Sarah Palin apart during the primaries. Heck, every candidate that came down the line. I'm sure you remember the most vocal ones. Heck, they are still here. I'm sure they are happy with their accomplishments. Are we?

I'll admit that I will be wearing a clothes pin on my nose in the voting booth, but I have not forgotten how important Congress is.

JMHO. YMMV.
42 posted on 08/02/2012 9:23:15 PM PDT by PA Engineer ("We're not programs, Gerty, We're People")
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To: Linda Frances

Romney is progressive alright. But he does not hate America.

The Kenyan in WH is progressive**cubed.
And he hates America.

I did not get where I am in life by cutting my ears off to spite my nose.


43 posted on 08/02/2012 9:23:47 PM PDT by entropy12 (Hate is the most insidious emotion, it will encourage cancer cells in your body.)
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To: rightjb

Our odds are better if the Paulbots are jettisoned to a third party


44 posted on 08/02/2012 9:24:28 PM PDT by Figment
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To: Hostage

“Romney is one of the worst forms of RINO democrat in republican clothing....”

.
McCain Jr.?


45 posted on 08/02/2012 9:27:50 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: rightjb

This is hysterical...I laughed so hard I couldn’t catch my breath. I won’t even bother explaining why this is delusional, because it won’t do any good, but thanks for the laugh.


46 posted on 08/02/2012 9:30:10 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: rightjb
It's frustrating to see Freepers one by one embraces reality of having Romney as the only alternative to 0bama, isn't it? But, then, truth is not always easy to handle. Two stubborn facts stay: (1) Romney, for all his problems, is better than 0bama. At least the probability of the country going straight to socialism is less than one. With four more years of zero, the probability is one. If he won, Romney would try to win a second term, which mean he probably will listen to a more conservative Congress. (2) Romney won the primaries.There are many reasons for this, including not-so honest attacks on Romney's campaign part, but the main reason is this: conservatives failed to come up with one candidate that with 30-40% Romney could emerge the winner. The way I see it, it's not the success of Romney campaign. It's the failure of conservatives.
47 posted on 08/02/2012 9:30:10 PM PDT by paudio (OTP: Why do people want to rehire a mechanic who clearly only made their car worse than before?)
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To: rightjb

You are over the target, and taking flak for it. Don your flame suit and keep a stiff upper lip. Everyone knows that Romney is the weakest republican candidate since McCain ... Dole ... The deeper this is felt the more viscous the attack from the one who has convinced himself to vote for him regardless. From one who has taken my share of barbs for supporting conservatives, good luck and carry on.


48 posted on 08/02/2012 9:30:36 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: muawiyah

My money is on Romney dropping his campaign before he shows his 2007, 2008 and 2009 income tax returns.

What a joke. Your money probably wouldn’t get you out of sight of where you currently squat. At what income level do you believe a person should be required to give up the right to privacy?


49 posted on 08/02/2012 9:31:35 PM PDT by Figment
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To: RaisingCain
Keyes? Is that you?
50 posted on 08/02/2012 9:32:54 PM PDT by Dave W
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