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Mitt Romney Supports Gay Boy Scouts But Not Gay Marriage?
Zimbio ^ | Aug 4

Posted on 08/06/2012 6:04:51 PM PDT by xzins

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To: xzins

“Sophistry should be outlawed before 5, jess.”

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101 posted on 08/07/2012 10:33:18 AM PDT by jessduntno ("Racism is not dead...it is on life support - kept alive by politicians..." - Thomas Sowell)
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To: jessduntno

102 posted on 08/07/2012 10:45:06 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

They weren’t getting married...it was going to be a simple civil ceremony on the pond.


103 posted on 08/07/2012 10:48:17 AM PDT by jessduntno ("Racism is not dead...it is on life support - kept alive by politicians..." - Thomas Sowell)
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To: jessduntno

Well-played. ;)


104 posted on 08/07/2012 10:52:10 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: Tennessee Nana
So you're telling me the boy scouts allow 13 year olds to wonder alone into the woods with 7 year olds and have sex?
105 posted on 08/07/2012 2:32:23 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; SoConPubbie

Didn’t say supporter, said “prefer.” There’s a difference, though some may see it as slim.

And that seems the logical conclusion from the post to which I replied, to which you replied.

If you will read the original post again, perhaps you can point out the error in my conclusion.


106 posted on 08/07/2012 11:51:15 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
Actually look at the question being asked, this time.
107 posted on 08/08/2012 12:10:51 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; COBOL2Java

Sorry, it was COBOL2Java to whom I originally asked: “So, would it be correct to conclude from your post that you prefer Obama wins the election over Romney in November?”

Seems you and SoCo have replied but not COBOL - and I haven’t seen a direct answer to the question yet.


108 posted on 08/08/2012 12:11:00 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
I haven’t seen a direct answer to the question yet.

Funny... that's just what I was thinking.

109 posted on 08/08/2012 12:12:32 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I looked at the premise: You keep calling anyone who doesn’t agree with you an Obama supporter.

I disagree with that premise. Which I clarified, explained and restated.

About all I can do on this.


110 posted on 08/08/2012 12:23:31 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
"Get A Lot Of Votes That Way, Do You?"

So, all inept weaseling and whatnot aside: "No," then. Gotcha.

About all I can do on this.

Plainly.


111 posted on 08/08/2012 12:26:18 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

“That way” refers to the premise.

Which you have stated in error - as I pointed out in reply.

I’ve asked you to review the discussion and show where your statement is correct.

You haven’t.

If you wish a coherent discussion, I’ll provide.

If you wish to claim gotcha or attempt flame wars... I’m too old for it.


112 posted on 08/08/2012 12:30:51 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

Sorry. Daddy's not impressed.

*PLONK*, junior.

113 posted on 08/08/2012 12:33:13 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Ok, coherent discussion is not your choice.

So be it. I won’t waste any more time with this or you.

pax tecum.


114 posted on 08/08/2012 12:36:13 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

*PLONK*


115 posted on 08/08/2012 12:39:57 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: cripplecreek

You’re not going to change history and you’re not telling me anything new.


116 posted on 08/08/2012 2:31:28 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: xzins

117 posted on 08/08/2012 2:31:52 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: COBOL2Java
Careful. Pedant Troll alert.

Pedant Troll: "In his imagination, pedant troll is the very exemplar of reason, balance and moderation. He feels effortlessly superior to [others], whom he likes to put down with his killer sarcasm, weapons-grade pedantry and niggling little quibbles masquerading as constructive criticism. If he were really as brilliant as he thinks he is, he would at the very least have a major blog of his own by now, and more likely be King of the World. Strangely, he has yet to achieve either of these things."

Feed at your own risk, FRiend. ;)

118 posted on 08/08/2012 2:36:45 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: xzins

I accept at face value your neutrality on the Mormon issue, but for a military man you’re dangerously naive. Romney’s no conservative, that’s obvious, severely so. But, Romney isn’t an Obama. I was born and raised in Cook County, IL. Obama is the worst we have to offer - a pseudo-intellectual, race baiting, crooked anti-American.

I’ve been to Boston and it’s a shining city on a hill compared to CC. Romney’s been able to attract MA conservatives to his cause. No one will ever get everyone as we can see on FR, yet Romney’s going to be the GOP nominee. He’s a politician and he’s way to the left of me. Given what you and others have written I went to see Romney yesterday. He did a great job and he’s threading a needle on social issues, but spot on when it comes to the economy. He’s no worse than either Bush.

He’s a thousand times better than Obama. He gets business and will improve the regulatory and tax regime along with the economy. I am under no illusion that he’s not a liberal. That’s why I’m working to elect the most conservative Congress I can.

We need to ally with pro-commerce Republicans, despite their being soft on social issues. Too many conservatives think they can just say, “ideas have consequences” and leave it at that. We’re going to have to fight a long, hard war for every inch of victory. That said our ideas are superior and will carry the day.

Once the economy is going forward again we’ll have carte blanch to move a powerful social agenda. Americans like winning and pocketbook issues are universal. What you’re doing is wounding the nominee and carrying water for Obama. That you wrap it in sincere conservative beliefs doesn’t make it right.


119 posted on 08/08/2012 2:56:13 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: CommerceComet
Good for all you've done and thanks. Keep it up because we'll need the most conservative Congress we can get, but they'll need to be wise and keep compromising the ball toward our victory.

If you are truly a conservative, think about the best possible outcome for this election (besides punting Mitt at the convention and putting a real conservative at the top of the ticket). The ideal outcome for conservatism would be Tea Party candidates winning in landslides and Mitt squeaking through by the skin of his teeth.

There won't be a conservative at the top of the GOP ticket and there hasn't been since Reagan. Don't make Romney's election victory such a squeaker that Obama wins.

120 posted on 08/08/2012 3:03:27 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: D-fendr; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Seems you and SoCo have replied but not COBOL - and I haven’t seen a direct answer to the question yet.

You want an answer from me? Here you go!


121 posted on 08/08/2012 4:37:28 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: COBOL2Java; D-fendr
Moved and seconded.

Motion carried. ;)

122 posted on 08/08/2012 4:40:41 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: COBOL2Java

Those kind of debate tactics lose their effectiveness after Junior High School.


123 posted on 08/08/2012 9:31:57 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: 1010RD
Keep it up because we'll need the most conservative Congress we can get, but they'll need to be wise and keep compromising the ball toward our victory.

Regardless of who wins, Congress will need to control the progressive President and thwart his agenda. The next four years will be bleak regardless of who wins and without question, our country will be far more socialistic than it is now.

Don't make Romney's election victory such a squeaker that Obama wins.

I don't care one way or the other. In the short-term, Obama would be worse for all the reasons you have stated but in the long term, Romney will be worse. This nation will only be saved by a re-birth of the conservative movement. The Romney family has been fighting the conservative movement since the days of father George. IMO, son Mitt would love to do what his father couldn't: put a dagger in the heart of conservatism. Electing him as President will put him in a great position to do that. To paraphrase the wisdom of Cicero: the enemy INSIDE the gates is more dangerous than the enemy AT the gates. If Romney wins, in all likelihood, there will be no conservative Republican Presidential candidate until 2020 at the earliest. For the next 4-5 election cycles, the GOP-E will continue to point to Romney's 2012 victory as the model for success: nominate a left-leaning Republican.

124 posted on 08/08/2012 10:28:36 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Obama vs. Romney - clear evidence that our nation has been judged by God and found wanting.)
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To: COBOL2Java
See? I told you, didn't I...?

This one's been bagged, tagged and identified. Time to release it back into the wild. ;)

125 posted on 08/08/2012 10:40:55 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Well, when you’re right, you’re right. Let’s stop feeding it.


126 posted on 08/08/2012 11:30:35 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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