And if you think Obama's Publisher made it up, you're a candidate to buy swampland for $10,000 an acre.
Posted on 08/07/2012 10:43:19 AM PDT by TexasVoter
I am President Obama’s classmate at Columbia University, Class of ’83. I am also one of the most accurate Las Vegas oddsmakers and prognosticators. Accurate enough that I was awarded my own star on the Las Vegas Walk of Stars. And I smell something rotten in Denmark. Obama has a big skeleton in his closet. It’s his college records. Call it “gut instinct” but my gut is almost always right. Obama has a secret hidden at Columbia- and it’s a bad one that threatens to bring down his Presidency. Gut instinct is how I’ve made my living for 29 years since graduating Columbia.
It seemed to me that the Glenn Beck Program Director promptly shut down that line of conversation.
However, that should not happen today at 5 PM central time when Joe Pags Show will feature another interview with Wayne Allyn Root on his own local program.
http://radio.woai.com/pages/pp_joepags.html (click on Listen Live |> button)
I heard the interview also. If this Brietbart reporter has the evidence as stated, I hope he has a security detail for his trip home.
Amen to THAT!
“...but my gut is almost always right” will probably not stand up all that well in a legal situation.
>> The reporter told Root that he has, in hand, has proof that Barry Soetoro was an Indonesian citizen.
Always enough proof to sell stories, but never enough for a legal case.
Wayne Alllyn Root attended Pre-Law and Political Science majors, at Columbia University, class of ‘83, supposedly just like Barack Obama, and Root says Obama was known in those days “Barry Soetoro.”
I just heard Mr. Root on the Andrew Wilkow show, on the way home from the library. Interesting stuff.
As of today, Obama very likely still has an Indonesian citizenship, and when Obama entered and left Columbia, he was still a Kenyan citizen up to the age of 23.
Yes up to 23 in accordance with Kenyan law and not 21.
It is strange that Root would say 0dumbo was known as barry soetoro at Columbia
and then write( from your link)
“I never met him. Never saw him. Never even heard of him”
so which is it?
That is the problem with all these theories and what causes lefties to chortle
This is interesting but why do people belive his college records are going to reveal anything? If his grades were poor, they’d alter that. If he was id’ed as an indonesian muslim, they’ed alter that. It’s not like these are in the National Archives and free from theft or alteration by anyone but Sandy Berger.
The truth will come out—Obama will be a mockery. Come out it will. The worst thing that could happen to Obama is if he wins—But I don’t think that will happen. We on the right should cheer! Obama will destroy the Liberal Progressive wing of the Democrat Party for US! In the end —even Hillary will denounce them!
Which leads me to believe the records don't exist anymore. It's a helluva lot easier to deny unproveable allegations than it is to alter physical evidence.
If the college records provided embarrassing (or scandalous) information, better to just destroy them.
And if you think Obama's Publisher made it up, you're a candidate to buy swampland for $10,000 an acre.
Rush is reporting the Wayne Root talking about Obama as I type this.
Rush is reporting Wayne Root talking about Obama as I type this.
The Breitbart reporter could be scheduled for a meeting with Andrew Breitbart if he has solid proof.
Rush just read Root’s entire article on the air.
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Did you read my post?
Did you read the link?
Root says 0dumbo was known as barry soetoro at the time at Columbia and then says he, root , has NEVER heard of 0dumbo.
As i pointed out this is the kind of contradiction the obamites and lefties will jump all over
I am not sure how you got from that that i think 0dumbo is anything but a vile lying pos
PING
Reread it. As we know, there's no contradiction whatsoever since Root found out later about Obama like everyone else.
That is why the fake Selective Service form is so damaging. US law allows dual citizenship in countries that allow it, but honors all countries that do not by canceling citizenship. Indonesia is such a country, dual citizenship is Illegal.
Therefor, by all measures of the law, Barry Soetoro is NOT an American Citizen, and all laws and executive decrees he has signed into effect are legally void.
“1971 — Barack Obama, Jr., age 10, returned to Hawaii to attend fifth grade at Punahou School, a prestigious preparatory school. Tuition was paid with the aid of scholarships and help from his grandmother.”
AGE TEN!!!! You can NOT lose your U.S. citizenship! Your parents can't take it away from you because of adoption or ANY OTHER REASON!!! You have to do it YOURSELF!!! Many forms to fill out AFTER you are EIGHTEEN! Obama was TEN when he moved back to America.
It makes NO DIFFERENCE what OTHER countries do with their citizenship. It doesn't affect your U.S. citizenship. Common sense (also U.S. law), why would another country be able to negate your U.S. citizenship?
Never mind the “dual citizenship” nonsense, it is irrelevant. Again, why would another country's citizenship laws TRUMP U.S. law? IT DOESN'T!
If Obama was a foreign exchange student, it wasn't from Indonesia, it would have been from Kenya, where he was actually born.
BUT, if this red herring of Indonesian citizenship gets the public focused on Obama’s eligibility, GREAT! I don't care HOW we get there, just that we get there.
OR, he committed FRAUD! He could have lied and used forged documents from Indonesia, Pakistan, or anywhere else.
“I never met him. Never saw him. Never even heard of him”
Both are possible. Root may have never known him but has talked to other people who knew Obama as Soetoro while at Columbia. In fact that is more likely from the usage of "was known as" rather than "I knew him as".
We have his mother’s passport records indicating the boy was no longer an American. That’s a fact. You can scream and deny but it’s still true.
Well faucetmouth, since you are well versed on Barry’s history, tell us - what passport did he use to travel to Pakistan, and what did he do there? It is not a garden spot.
I have downloaded Root’s statement and take it to be original/genuine. I see and realize what appears to be the contradiction/discrepancy you point out. To clear the matter Root needs to explain how it is he could state that Obama was ‘known as Barry Soetoro’ but never met him, saw him, or heard of him. In my mind I can think of plausible explanations but it would be very helpful for believing or placing credibility if Root gave an explanation.
you said:
“1971 — Barack Obama, Jr., age 10, returned to Hawaii to attend fifth grade at Punahou School, a prestigious preparatory school. Tuition was paid with the aid of scholarships and help from his grandmother.”
This is another inconsistency. There is a picture of him at that school with a classmate in 3rd grade taken in Dec. 1969. There are Christmas decorations in the background. The fellow sent it to him after he was elected and he autographed it and returned it to him. I’ve seen it online several times.
Root was just on as a guest on the Sean Hannity show making all of the above points so he is making the rounds. He mentioned Charles Johnson finding proof in Indonesia that Obama relinquished citizenship. Hope something comes of it...
You see that "Scott and Barry" picture posted online as a picture of them at Punahou, but also as a picture of them at Noelani Elementary.
The caption doesn't actually say Punahou. I suspect it's a mistake people made. The more careful sources say the photo was from Noelani Elementary.
The mystery, though, is that Obama was supposed to be going to school in Indonesia in 1969. I don't know if the discrepancy was ever explained.
Wayne Root said on Hannity that he's in Indonesia and he has the "proof in hand" that Obama as an Indonesian citizen and he will write an article about it (at Breitbart.com) when he gets back.
Root further goes on saying that Obama likely holds presidential office illegally as an usurper. ...No doubt whatsoever.
yes exactly
and we know if there is the slightest room for changing the subject obamites will leap on it instead of the actualy issue.
Perhaps Root should have said,” as we NOW know odumbo was known as Barry soetoro while at Columbia.”
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“Root may have never known him but has talked to other people who knew Obama as Soetoro “
so if Root talked to other people who spoke of 0dumbo as barry soetoro i don’t think Root would have said he’d never heard of him do you?
this is not a big deal in the big picture vut it is a seeming contradiction and we all know how obamites love to cloud the issue
“Wayne Root said on Hannity that he’s in Indonesia and he has the “proof in hand” that Obama as an Indonesian citizen”
Root should keep quiet until he has this alleged documentation safely secured in the USA. Does he have a wife and children? Are they protected? Why say this stuff in advance. Just produce the goods and let them speak for themselves.
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“Many forms to fill out AFTER you are EIGHTEEN!”
That is simply not true as a matter of what our law was in the late 1970s and early 1980s.
And by the way, the 18-year-old demarcation was added to our laws in the 1986 amendments to the INA. Before that it was possible for him to voluntarily relinquish US citizenship as, for example, a 17-year-old, if the circumstances as a whole indicated that he knew what he was doing. And it was not necessary to fill out US government forms to relinquish US citizenship. The question was whether, looking at the circumstances as a whole, he voluntarily took an affirmative action evidencing an intent to relinquish US citizenship.
If Obama gained Indonesian nationality as a child and then later, as a young adult, he:
1. signed his name claiming status as an Indonesian citizen to an application for college or for financial aid, or
2. renewed an Indonesian passport or
3. did any other affirmative action that evidenced a clear and unambiguous intention to relinquish United States citizenship,
then Obama is likely no longer a U.S. citizen, under our laws as they were in effect in the late 1970s and early 1980s.
The reason Indonesian citizenship would cause such a legal problem for Obama is because Indonesia did not permit dual citizenship.
Therefore, if Obama affirmatively chose Indonesia citizenship, then he necessarily was evidencing an intent to relinquish his United States citizenship.
This would not necessarily be the case if the other country was one that allowed dual citizenship, such as Israel. If Obama was a US citizen and also an Israeli citizen, then by renewing an Israeli passport he does NOT necessarily relinquish U.S. citizenship, because his intent clearly could have been to be a citizen of both countries.
However, in the case of Indonesia, if Obama had taken an affirmative action to be an Indonesian citizen, then he cannot claim he intended to be a citizen of both countries, because Indonesia made very clear at the time that if you were an Indonesian citizen you could NOT also be a citizen of another country, so he would have known that by choosing Indonesia he was choosing one over the other, and not both.
bttt
If Romney actually fires back with this, Romney himself, not surrogates who will not have an impact, I will change my estimation of the man. I will understand that Romney actually wants to win the election. So far, all I have seen is Gerald McBushdole redux who fought tooth and nail for the nomination as the highest honor that the Republican Party could bestow but then did not campaign seriously because these fellows disdained the chore of actually being president.
The Hague Convention on International Adoptions, to which the US is a signatory DOES allow the citizenship laws of the adopting nation to be honored so as to facilitate adoption in the host country. Pakistan does not allow for dual citizenship and undoubtedly required Lolo Soetero to renounce Barry’s US citizenship so that he could adopt him. True Barry’s US citizenship cannot be PERMENENTLY renounced by such actions. However, Barry would have to appear before an appropriate State Dept. official and swear an oath of loyalty to the US so as to repatriate himself upon achieving the age of 18. He would then be a NATURALIZED citizen, and would forever lose any NBC status that he might have had. (Iam sure he was NEVER an NBC) There is no evidence that he did so.
The purpose of Article II, Sec. I Clause 5 of the USC was to protect the office of the POTUS from undue foreign influence, PARTICULARLY from a father owing allegiance to a foreign sovereignty NOT to ensure an alien entity like Barack Obama would have the right to assume the presidency one day. The measure was EXCLUSIONARY (only applicable to the presidency and NO other provision of citizenship) and not to be interpeted as all inclusionary so as to protect the office of POTUS.
The Hague Convention on International Adoptions, to which the US is a signatory DOES allow the citizenship laws of the adopting nation to be honored so as to facilitate adoption in the host country. Pakistan does not allow for dual citizenship and undoubtedly required Lolo Soetero to renounce Barry’s US citizenship so that he could adopt him. True Barry’s US citizenship cannot be PERMENENTLY renounced by such actions. However, Barry would have to appear before an appropriate State Dept. official and swear an oath of loyalty to the US so as to repatriate himself upon achieving the age of 18. He would then be a NATURALIZED citizen, and would forever lose any NBC status that he might have had. (Iam sure he was NEVER an NBC) There is no evidence that he did so.
The purpose of Article II, Sec. I Clause 5 of the USC was to protect the office of the POTUS from undue foreign influence, PARTICULARLY from a father owing allegiance to a foreign sovereignty NOT to ensure an alien entity like Barack Obama would have the right to assume the presidency one day. The measure was EXCLUSIONARY (only applicable to the presidency and NO other provision of citizenship) and not to be interpeted as all inclusionary so as to protect the office of POTUS.
The Hague Convention on International Adoptions, to which the US is a signatory DOES allow the citizenship laws of the adopting nation to be honored so as to facilitate adoption in the host country. Pakistan does not allow for dual citizenship and undoubtedly required Lolo Soetero to renounce Barry’s US citizenship so that he could adopt him. True Barry’s US citizenship cannot be PERMENENTLY renounced by such actions. However, Barry would have to appear before an appropriate State Dept. official and swear an oath of loyalty to the US so as to repatriate himself upon achieving the age of 18. He would then be a NATURALIZED citizen, and would forever lose any NBC status that he might have had. (Iam sure he was NEVER an NBC) There is no evidence that he did so.
The purpose of Article II, Sec. I Clause 5 of the USC was to protect the office of the POTUS from undue foreign influence, PARTICULARLY from a father owing allegiance to a foreign sovereignty NOT to ensure an alien entity like Barack Obama would have the right to assume the presidency one day. The measure was EXCLUSIONARY (only applicable to the presidency and NO other provision of citizenship) and not to be interpeted as all inclusionary so as to protect the office of POTUS.
My apologies for the triple post. I kept getting a “website cannot be foud” message after each post.
-PJ
Actually he would have lost his natural born Citizen status when he lost his Citizen status on the outbound leg. Its hard to BE a natural born Citizen when you are not even a plain ‘Citizen’. So at that point he would not have been natural born Citizen and that status is forever gone.
A formal naturalization is a bad problem. nbC and naturalized C are mutually exclusive. If you are one you can not be the other.
Birth-smirth certificate, foreign father or not - a naturalized citizen is not eligible - period. If Obama was formally naturalized then the events of 1961 are mute as far as the Constitution is concerned.
PING!!!!!! read from the beginning!!
I heard this interview this morning and almost jumped the median. Have been looking for more info...Rush also ‘mentioned’ it...once it gets ‘out’ then I guess Rush et. al. can ‘discuss’ it as news....
Thanks bitt.
Thanks for the hotlinks!
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