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Das Papieren, Bitte!
Halfpasthuman ^ | 8-6-2012 | Clif High

Posted on 08/09/2012 3:09:37 AM PDT by Renfield

It happened to me today; i ran smack into the fascistic wall being built around the USA, formerly known as the 'land of the free'.

While ALL of the patriotic rhetoric of my youth is suspect, i had not anticipated ever running into the dreaded 'papers check'...that in the old Nazi movies begins with the phrase:

Das papierien, bitte!

Of course, they do say, 'please', but it is a command nonetheless. "Hand over your papers!".

In this instance it was a drivers license that was demanded, but the sense is the same....das paperien, bitte!

Get used to it. For the remaining months that government has (above ground), at least here in the former land of the free range deluded patriot, the screws are tightening down all over.

Government is force. But, they can never actually afford to use force against more than a few citizens at a time without risking the 'Anaheim response' in which local residents battle police over brutal tactics being applied en masse, otherwise known as rebellion, or even worse, revolution. You see, they, the government HAS to be sneaky about their use of force, usually targeting people that they make into object lessons in order to coerce the rest of us into staying under control.

But that is breaking down. Probably due to teevee and the baby boom generation and beyond being desensitized to threats as a result of warped brains, but the cause is actually not pertinent. Government is scared. The systems of control are breaking down, so the natural response of the control freak is to try to grasp harder than ever as they feel the control leaking from their fingers... which leads inevitably to:

Das papierien, bitte!

So there i was, innocently minding my own business when the demand came. First i could not believe it....here, in America? Demands for identity papers?

"Who asks?" i ask?

Thurston County (state of Washington, Pacific Northwest USA) commissioners demand, came the response.

My own county commissioners?!? Now they are fascists! It was simply inconceivable!

While i had, of course, prepared myself for the inevitable intrusion of federal fascism into my life these remaining 8/eight months, it had never, in my wildest imaginings, occurred to me that it would be my own county commissioners who would sell my body to FEMA for harvest.

But that is where we are heading. No doubt.

It has to do with the level of oppression that the government HAS to use in order to maintain control. You see, the more desperate (and dangerous) they get, the more that the control freak becomes obsessed with minutia and triviality. As a military brat in the American Zone of Occupation in Southern Germany in the 1960's, i had occasion to reside in an apartment building that also housed an aged SS Colonel. We eventually got to talking over time, and one thing he said has always stuck with me.

The spark of the conversation had been when i, rather rudely, asked him why he had been a Nazi? Didn't he know they were the bad guys?

His response was unexpected in that he told me he joined the SS to save his life and that of his wife. "You see", he said, "we had always planned to get out of Hitler's vision, but we left it too late."

He went on to say that one day it dawned on him just how late it was when he went to buy 'postage coupons' (stamps to us), only to find that he had to sign his name on a government form to send a letter outside the country. It was then that he decided to join the Nazi apparatus as a safety measure. His thinking being that he (and his wife) would then be part of 'them', rather than 'against them'.

"Und so kinder", he said to me, "when you see that they want your papers to mail a letter, it is too late to get out."

Today i had the same shocking insight when they demanded my papers to dump my trash at the local landfill.

i shit you not. Some nutter fascist Thurston County commissioner (acting for Agenda 21 at the local level here in WA State) has decided that before citizens can throw away their trash, or recycling, they must present their identity papers.

i shit you not.

So, i had, on the spot, early on a Monday morning, after a terrible weekend with no sleep, to decide how to respond. The way my brain saw it at the time, there were 3/three basic options: i could comply (nope, that did not feel right); or i could fight it, which of course meant NOT dumping the trash, and probably would lead to me being involved with politics trying to defeat the retarded politician county commissioner dumb enough to put his name to this 'papers to dump trash policy', and, also given the touchy state of the militarized police.....; or, option 3.

It was option 3 that i chose....to scam the system.

Actually i was pretty proud of my poor brain for coming up with it...but what i did was to claim 'federal protected class' status....

"sorry, i am illegal, and have no driver's license". The idea was to have one part of the system now dealing with another.

"ok", said the Land Fill employee. "But i have to fill in something here to let your truck get by, so what's your name?".

"Barak Rodrigues".

He did not bat an eye, and typed it in.

"Address?" he asked?

"Don't got one. Homeless".

"Ok, fine" he said, and passed my truck on through.

Today's drive to the landfill changed everything about the USA for me.

Das papierien, bitte!

*****

Oh, and if you had been wondering....now we know...it is too late to get out.

*****

August 6,2012


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: tyranny

1 posted on 08/09/2012 3:09:47 AM PDT by Renfield
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To: Renfield

The person who wrote this actslike it was the first time he has asked to be identified. I guess he never got carded whe he bought a drink or never got on an airplane.

The guys at the dump don’t want out of state or out of county dumping for free. The landfill isn’t a free dump site for just anyone who comes along, someone has to pay for it’s existence.

You need to show a license to go fishing now. To hunt. He never got a speeding ticket?

Right or wrong there are times when seeing your ID is necessary and it doesn’t make the asker a Nazi.


2 posted on 08/09/2012 3:20:09 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

Here in New Jersey if you go vote and attempt to show an ID card, they scream at you to “put that away!”


3 posted on 08/09/2012 3:24:23 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Renfield
Ausweis bitte is the correct imperative.


4 posted on 08/09/2012 3:27:01 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Renfield

Look, if your going to bitch, at least use the correct German. “Die Papiere”, “Ihre Papiere” or “Deine Papiere”, “The Papers”, “Your (polite) Papers”, “Your (informal) Papers”, respectively. Perhaps followed by a “,bitte”, “pleases”. May just “Papiere, bitte”.

Danke.


5 posted on 08/09/2012 3:27:58 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for necro-Americans!)
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To: Venturer

You miss the point.
Badly.


6 posted on 08/09/2012 3:31:29 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: Renfield

Burn your own garbage.


7 posted on 08/09/2012 3:35:57 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Renfield

I’m not sure what language the title is supposed to be written in, but it isn’t German.


8 posted on 08/09/2012 3:39:32 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Venturer
"Right or wrong there are times when seeing your ID is necessary and it doesn’t make the asker a Nazi."

Ever hear of the 4th & 5Th Amendments? perhaps not.

Education is your friend.....

9 posted on 08/09/2012 3:46:55 AM PDT by SERE_DOC ( “The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” TJ.)
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To: SERE_DOC

So is common sense.

Evidently you have no problem with people being able to vote who do not produce an ID.Or drive without a license, or kids buying cigarettes and booze.


10 posted on 08/09/2012 4:23:19 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: ctdonath2

No I don’t miss the point. The point is badly exagerated in this screed.


11 posted on 08/09/2012 4:26:32 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: SkyPilot

New Jersey is a Democrat state isn’t it?


12 posted on 08/09/2012 4:27:05 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer
I have to show my ID when I go to the town dump, to prove I'm a town resident. Our landfill’s rates are cheaper than the city's I leave on the outskirts of; so we charge non-residents more than that city does, to keep them from bringing their trash here.
13 posted on 08/09/2012 4:37:07 AM PDT by skully (My pets are Democrats!!!)
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To: Renfield

His solution to the “problem” was certainly effective. Claiming the protected status of an illegal was spot on.


14 posted on 08/09/2012 4:45:14 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: Venturer

I hear you, but notice: he self-declared as an illegal and skated on through.

Illegals should count as ‘out-of-state’. The horror story here is that citizens are required to show ID to use a public amenity, but illegals are not!


15 posted on 08/09/2012 4:50:22 AM PDT by agere_contra (Vote ABO. Don't choose the Greater Evil and then boast about how principled you are)
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To: agere_contra

I agree on that, but we only have the story he told.

I have a problem believing he told it straight.

I know the guys that work at the landfill in my county, and he would have been allowed entrance, but you see the cost is zero to those who live in the county and there is a charge for those who don’t. In my county he would have been let in only after paying the fee, and all the smart-assed playing at being an illegal wouldn’t have gained him a thing,except a charge.

Well different places have different rules I guess.


16 posted on 08/09/2012 4:58:27 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: skully

Most Land fills are set up that way.

In my county :resident get a sticker, with the sticker they pass you right through. The sticker is free for residents.

I have a problem believing this version of this story.


17 posted on 08/09/2012 5:00:16 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: SkyPilot

When we went to vote for Ted Cruz in the TX GOP primary, we showed our photo ID on our drivers’ license. The poll watcher told us that we didn’t need that. We said we hope by our next election, we will have to show it.

Of course, Eric Holder will have to be out of office before TX can require ID. That’s when you know you live in a Fascist country.


18 posted on 08/09/2012 5:16:37 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Renfield

Do your county taxes pay to operate the dump? Do you think people from other counties should be allowed to use your dump if they don’t help fund it?


19 posted on 08/09/2012 5:31:36 AM PDT by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: nathanbedford

EDITORIAL: The Civil War of 2016: U.S. military officers are told to plan to fight Americans
The Washington Times ^ | August 8, 2012 | Editorial

Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2012 6:50:24 PM by EveningStar

Imagine Tea Party extremists seizing control of a South Carolina town and the Army being sent in to crush the rebellion. This farcical vision is now part of the discussion in professional military circles.

At issue is an article in the respected Small Wars Journal titled “Full Spectrum Operations in the Homeland: A ‘Vision’ of the Future.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2916269/posts

Photos at link here:

US Army Preparing for Martial Law Scenario in US?

Civil Disturbance and Mock Riot Drills In Washington

The Intel Hub
April 9, 2012

For years the alternative media has warned about the US military possibly being used against the American people in a time of economic collapse or any sort of martial law scenario.

Drills such as Vigilant Guard 2010 have brought widespread attention to the fact that portions of our own military are training to take on crowds of American citizens demanding food and Constitutional rights in a time of crisis.

Now, a new release by the website Public Intelligence, once again confirms that as recently as February and March of 2012, US troops at Joint Base Lewis-McChord in Washington were conducting training scenarios for a civil disturbance domestic quick reaction force....

http://theintelhub.com/2012/04/09/us-army-preparing-for-martial-law-scenario-in-us-civil-disturbance-and-mock-riot-drills-in-washington/


20 posted on 08/09/2012 6:41:35 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Renfield

I think it has effectively been to late to get out for quite some time now, as there really isn’t anywhere you can go.


21 posted on 08/09/2012 7:46:45 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: KeyLargo

“were conducting training scenarios for a civil disturbance domestic quick reaction force....”

My Co-worker, a DE Guard and Reserve, spent this past weekend doing exactly that.
This is real, this is now.


22 posted on 08/09/2012 8:18:23 AM PDT by Delmarksman (Pro 2A Anglican American (Ford and Chevy kill more people than guns do, lets ban them))
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To: Renfield
Today i had the same shocking insight when they demanded my papers to dump my trash at the local landfill.

Proof of residence to use a town/county/state facility is not what I'd consider oppression, any more than proof of identity to register and vote.

23 posted on 08/09/2012 9:54:41 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Venturer
New Jersey is a Democrat state isn’t it?

Regrettably, it ranges from RAT to RINO now.

24 posted on 08/09/2012 9:59:20 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Renfield

Wait he’s mad because the dump wanted ID? That’s not that uncommon, regional dumps often give residents a certain number of free trips while anybody else has to pay, in order to prove you’re a resident you show your ID, which of course has your address. If it’s like that I suppose he could have just paid. Guy needs to rent a clue.


25 posted on 08/09/2012 10:03:48 AM PDT by discostu (Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

That’s exactly what I thought when I saw the title.


26 posted on 08/09/2012 10:11:47 AM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: discostu
"That’s not that uncommon, regional dumps often give residents a certain number of free trips while anybody else has to pay, in order to prove you’re a resident you show your ID, which of course has your address. If it’s like that I suppose he could have just paid. Guy needs to rent a clue."

Yep. If you're looking for the imposition of a police state and the dissolution of civil rights, there are far better places to look than the county land fill, which has quite a legitimate interest in protecting their community from non-residents using a resident funded facility.

I would bet this very same guy would call the cops on somebody who showed up at his daughter's wedding reception without an invitation and refused to leave.

27 posted on 08/09/2012 10:21:12 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: B Knotts; nathanbedford

nathanbedford #4 is better, I believe.


28 posted on 08/09/2012 11:12:10 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for necro-Americans!)
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To: nathanbedford

Richtig.


29 posted on 08/09/2012 11:15:49 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (Hold.....hold......hold.......)
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To: Renfield
Today i had the same shocking insight when they demanded my papers to dump my trash at the local landfill.

Geeze and I was completely ignorant that the Nazis had taken over when I was "carded" at the Henderson County landfill. Oh well, too late to do anything about it now.

30 posted on 08/09/2012 11:24:42 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: JimRed; All

Clif High is always a prickly sort. I just posted this because I thought it was funny that he claimed to be an illegal alien named “Barack Rodrigues”.


31 posted on 08/09/2012 12:57:00 PM PDT by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Look, if your going to bitch, at least use the correct German.

Ach, du meine guete. Du hast das recht! Typische Amerikaner.

32 posted on 08/09/2012 1:03:28 PM PDT by Sideshow Bob
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