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High-ranking Mexican drug cartel member makes explosive allegation: ‘Fast and Furious’ is not ...
The Blaze ^ | August 9, 2012 | Jason Howerton

Posted on 08/09/2012 9:09:10 AM PDT by EveningStar

A high-ranking Mexican drug cartel operative currently in U.S. custody is making startling allegations that the failed federal gun-walking operation known as “Fast and Furious” isn’t what you think it is.

It wasn’t about tracking guns, it was about supplying them — all part of an elaborate agreement between the U.S. government and Mexico’s powerful Sinaloa Cartel to take down rival cartels.

(Excerpt) Read more at theblaze.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: banglist; cartels; drugcartels; drugs; drugwar; fastandfurious; gunrunner; mexico; murdergate; warondrugs; wod; wodlist; wosd
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To: drypowder

CIA has been in bed with the Sinaloa gang.How else does a CIA rendition plane sold twice a few weeks before it crash landed -get in the hands of the Sinaloas so it can have over 6000 pounds of cocaine on it.

The person who wouldn’t let that plane land ended up dead.


61 posted on 08/09/2012 11:33:08 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: heartwood
"How long would it take for drug lords to settle down into to some sort of civilized place? Decades? A couple centuries? Bootleggers did it"



Well, in this case.....one generation from the rum-running to the White House.........
62 posted on 08/09/2012 11:40:27 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!!!)
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To: Future Snake Eater

The price would go down if opium was legal. No doubt it would be made up in volume - but if the whole country was growing opium legally it might mean less influence for the Taliban - farmers wouldn’t need their “protection” or markets.

If we’re getting out of Afghanistan in two years’ time it doesn’t make much difference in strategic terms anyway.


63 posted on 08/09/2012 11:40:49 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: dragnet2
a spokesman for the Chihuahua state government in northern Mexico who said U.S. agencies ”don’t fight drug traffickers,“ instead ”they try to manage the drug trade.

'"It's like pest control companies, they only control," Guillermo Terrazas Villanueva, the Chihuahua spokesman, told Al Jazeera last month at his office in Juarez. "If you finish off the pests, you are out of a job. If they finish the drug business, they finish their jobs."'

He's under the illusion that it's possible to "finish the drug business." The demand for intoxication is as old as the human race - and where there's demand there will be supply.

64 posted on 08/09/2012 11:44:01 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: machman

Heisenberg? The Nazi physicist who tried to build Hitler the bomb? That Heisenberg?


65 posted on 08/09/2012 11:44:50 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!!!)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Precisely. Maybe the thing to do with warlords or crime lords is let them domesticate - it takes some generations, but the Anglo-Saxon-Normans produced a fine civilization.

Some warlords, you can only kill or isolate - that would be the Afghanis.

And the Aztec-Conquistador types?


66 posted on 08/09/2012 11:48:25 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: Emperor Palpatine
Heisenberg? The Nazi physicist who tried to build Hitler the bomb? That Heisenberg?

"Werner Karl Heisenberg (5 December 1901 – 1 February 1976) was a German theoretical physicist and philosopher who discovered (1925) a way to formulate quantum mechanics in terms of matrices. For that discovery, he was awarded the Nobel Prize for Physics in 1932. In 1927 he published his uncertainty principle, upon which he built his philosophy and for which he is best known. He also made important contributions to the theories of the hydrodynamics of turbulent flows, the atomic nucleus, ferromagnetism, cosmic rays, and subatomic particles, and he was instrumental in planning the first West German nuclear reactor at Karlsruhe, together with a research reactor in Munich, in 1957. Considerable controversy surrounds his work on atomic research during World War II." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heisenberg

67 posted on 08/09/2012 11:55:00 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: hoosiermama

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68 posted on 08/09/2012 11:58:17 AM PDT by maggief
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To: RummyChick
the F U in your face criminals in DC are assuredly achieving their apex of control. Not to preach; I fear the US is at the point where any opposition by freedom loving American patriots will result in a government purge. If the coming government purge of patriots is not preempted and stopped, this country and all that it has stood for will certainly be lost.
69 posted on 08/09/2012 12:08:45 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: maggief

Good resources. Thanks.


70 posted on 08/09/2012 12:10:04 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

I think he might be talking about
Breaking Bad.

Heisenberg.

It’s a great show.


71 posted on 08/09/2012 12:22:39 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: wardaddy

” Both parties use the ATF to push policy....some policy which is political in nature.

and folks wonder how totalitarians get started.”

Exactly!


72 posted on 08/09/2012 12:24:59 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: arthurus

There is no goal in Mexico. They care not what happens there. The goal is here in the U.S.

1. Putting one drug cartel into power provides an organized and predictable supply of drugs into the U.S.

2. The organized supply of drugs into the states provides the feds with a reason for the war on drugs.

3. Seizure laws and drug busts in the U.S. generate large sums of money.

4. Seized assets and money are funneled into co-vert ops.

5. Co-vert ops provide the ability to do whatever they want wherever they want whenever they want.

6. No rules and no accountabilty equals power.

A conspiracy? Yeah. To what end? Oldest one in the book: power. He who makes the rules controls the narrative and the game.


73 posted on 08/09/2012 12:26:04 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
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To: RummyChick

I love Breaking Bad

but it was more fun earlier on when he was a geek out of his league lucking his way through situations he got himself into and did not understand

now he is starting to think he is scarface and it is not as funny - Mike was the funniest one this week when he tried to excuse himself to go kill the lady who is getting them the methylene

it was funny and quirkier before- now it is more like soap opera-drama

The brother-in-law DEA agent is awesome though, and so is his wife (i have the hots for her since the ‘hospital scene’ )


74 posted on 08/09/2012 12:32:18 PM PDT by Mr. K ("The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum [of good]")
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To: machman
I think Heisenberg is behind this...

Any uncertainty?

75 posted on 08/09/2012 12:55:30 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Mr. K

It’s a brilliant show. Acting, writing, cinematography.

Sometimes, I have found it hard to watch.Such as the meth heads with neglected child show. The set design of that was awesome and so realistic that it was hard to watch

I am sad the cousins are gone..but this one went out the way they came in—crawling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACvYFxZ1iGg

the scene where they walked away from the fiery explosion was not cgi special effects put in later. Cranston was directing and told them they had one take - don’t flinch - and they didn’t.

If anyone wants to watch the first four seasons you can sign up for a free trial with netflix to watch them.


76 posted on 08/09/2012 12:55:44 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

R.I.P cousins. You brought me many a tense moment

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvnHHJAvQk0

Anyone who can not flinch during that explosion deserves more acting gigs.


77 posted on 08/09/2012 1:12:22 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
I think he might be talking about
Breaking Bad.

Heisenberg.

Boy, do I feel uncool now. :(

78 posted on 08/09/2012 1:29:18 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Hahahahaha, well, I hadn’t watched it until this year. Went to Netflix.Got hooked and have watched it all.

This scene, where it all comes closing in on the main character and he needs money to escape death from the Drug Lord...shows why this show is so good. He goes to the crawl space and finds the money gone- and with that -no way to escape

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWfK5JyD2bA

Watch a couple of episodes to see if you like it but you have to start from the beginning.


79 posted on 08/09/2012 2:04:12 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
I don't even have time to watch the movies I DVR (Adjustment Bureau, Inglorious Basterds, ...).
80 posted on 08/09/2012 2:09:32 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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