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Marital Have-Nots?
Eagleye Blog ^ | August 8, 2012 | Bethany Stotts

Posted on 08/09/2012 8:04:48 PM PDT by eagleye85

In a recent article published in the New York Times, reporter Jason DeParle casts the fact that more lower-class mothers are having children out of wedlock as a product of class conflict. He posits a theory of marital “scarcity” in which the upper classes have greater access to marriage than the poorer classes.

DeParle paints a bleak picture, writing that “College-educated Americans like the Faulkners are increasingly likely to marry one another, compounding their growing advantages in pay.” He reports that “Less-educated women like Ms. [Jessica] Schairer, who left college without finishing her degree, are growing less likely to marry at all, raising children on pinched paychecks that come in ones, not twos.”

He continues, “Estimates vary widely, but scholars have said that changes in marriage patterns — as opposed to changes in individual earnings — may account for as much as 40 percent of the growth in certain measures of inequality.”

“Long concentrated among minorities, motherhood outside marriage now varies by class about as much as it does by race,” he reports.“Less than 10 percent of the births to college-educated women occur outside marriage, while for women with high school degrees or less the figure is nearly 60 percent,” writes DeParle (emphasis added).

DeParle cites Andrew Cherlin, a sociologist at Johns Hopkins University, as saying that “It is the privileged Americans who are marrying, and marrying helps them stay privileged.” ...

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TOPICS: Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: familyvalues; feminism; marriage; nytimes

1 posted on 08/09/2012 8:04:52 PM PDT by eagleye85
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To: eagleye85

1) Stay in school
2) Get married before you have kids
3) Get a job. Any job.

You will most likely not be poor. Deviate from any of these 3 points, and you are on the path to poverty.


2 posted on 08/09/2012 8:13:14 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Roger Taney? Not a bad Chief Justice. John Roberts? A really awful Chief Justice.)
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To: eagleye85

True morality does not depend on material wealth.


3 posted on 08/09/2012 8:16:29 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: eagleye85

My Wife was out of High School 2 weeks when we married in 1962.

We raised 7 kids that are raising their kids.

We all make choices, and are affected by the choices we make.


4 posted on 08/09/2012 8:29:00 PM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Walter Williams adds stay out of jail to that list.


5 posted on 08/09/2012 8:30:21 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: eagleye85

I work with someone who has been in a relationship with a woman for many years. They have a child together and live together but won’t marry because of all the benefits he would have to pay for if they did.


6 posted on 08/09/2012 8:31:38 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: ClearCase_guy

I would modify #2, at the risk of being a “prude”, to “don’t have sex before you get married”. It makes the “having kids” part a non-issue.

Just gotta do it? Get married and stay married.


7 posted on 08/09/2012 8:36:46 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: Dan(9698)

As I heard recently,

we’re all free to make our own choices,
but what we’re not free to do is choose the consequences for those choices.


8 posted on 08/09/2012 8:37:44 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Once again, the gov’t skews society with perverse incentives.


9 posted on 08/09/2012 8:39:26 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: MrB

I am most glad that she chose me.


10 posted on 08/09/2012 8:46:36 PM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: eagleye85

My Wife was out of High School 2 weeks when we married in 1962.

We raised 7 kids that are raising their kids.

We all make choices, and are affected by the choices we make.


11 posted on 08/09/2012 8:56:57 PM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: eagleye85

Here’s something you should read before posting any more excerpts of your own work.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2882227/posts

(That “Jim” guy - he owns the place.)


12 posted on 08/09/2012 8:57:15 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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This couldn't possibly have anything to do with the fact that the government has been functioning as a "replacement" for fathers in families, discouraging marriage and actually providing financial incentives, not only for having children out of wedlock, but additional incentives to have more children.

Consequently the women who are on welfare and other forms of government support tend to be unmarried.

But given the source (NY Slimes) it's understandable they get this sort of thing bass-ackwards.

Mark

13 posted on 08/09/2012 9:17:23 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: eagleye85

So, I read the NYT article. Dopey young woman leaved her very white, rural hometown, goes off to college, and gets knocked up by “her boyfriend, an African-American student from Arkansas, said they should start a family.”

Gee, he later abandoned the woman and the three kids. He pays no child support. I’m shocked! Shocked, I say!


14 posted on 08/09/2012 9:31:55 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Straight Vermonter
Walter Williams adds stay out of jail to that list.

Actually, his advice is "Obey the law."

You make it sound like he's saying "Don't get caught."

15 posted on 08/09/2012 9:48:57 PM PDT by grundle
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To: vladimir998

It says that when she got her tax refund, she paid her rent six months in advance. So she understands the idea of planning for the future. And yet she still has three kids out of wedlock.


16 posted on 08/09/2012 9:53:23 PM PDT by grundle
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To: AD from SpringBay

Proverbs 1:18 - And they lay wait for their own blood; they lurk privily for their own lives.

It’s Freud’s reality principle.


17 posted on 08/09/2012 10:00:25 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Our laws are not Just and equal. They discriminate and reward immorality. All Law is suppose to promote Virtue-—that is the purpose of government-—to Rule by Law-—and Justice (which is the First Virtue)-—has to promote Virtue through Just Law or it is unjust.

Laws that prevent human beings from doing their primary Duty to civil society—to raise their own offspring-—are evil (unjust laws) according to Natural Law Theory—the basis of our Constitution and Rights.

The only reason we have a government-—is to protect those Natural Rights—and marriage along with private property is primary, so to have the best structure to raise our own progeny and pass on property rights and do our primary Duty in life—to take care of our own progeny.


18 posted on 08/09/2012 10:14:14 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: grundle

Ha-ha, true enough.


19 posted on 08/10/2012 12:16:07 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: ClearCase_guy

...”1) Stay in school
2) Get married before you have kids
3) Get a job. Any job.

You will most likely not be poor. Deviate from any of these 3 points, and you are on the path to poverty”...

Your assessment is right on! I would think the marriage prospects of a high schooler who already has children would not be good. Those of us who have watched the “sexual revolution” from the time of free love at Woodstock, etc., have seen a government sponsored sexually active path to poverty for women and children. Women have had children out of wedlock to secure government checks for each additional child. These are consequences to the socialism which we now find ourselves in..How do you suppose the upcoming dictatorship will “redistribute” marriage?


20 posted on 08/10/2012 2:38:03 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: jazzlite
“”DeParle cites Andrew Cherlin, a sociologist at Johns Hopkins University, as saying that “It is the privileged Americans who are marrying, and marrying helps them stay privileged.” ...”

What would the world be without sociologists....

Privileged? Is that the new word for achievement based on hard work, delayed gratification, and thoughtful decision making? My father didn't finish high school. No one in my family went to college before me. I worked lots of manual labor jobs while in school. So my degree, and the fact that I didn't get someone pregnant and not marry them when I was in high school or in my early 20s are the result of privilege?

This is just another way of saying ‘you didn't build that’.

21 posted on 08/10/2012 2:56:59 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: ClearCase_guy

We should add:

And don’t commit crimes. Don’t sell, drugs, don’t rob people, don’t shoot your peers over the color of their hats.


22 posted on 08/10/2012 5:37:24 AM PDT by SargeK
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