Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

The American Working Class Can't Afford "Green Energy"
Nolan Chart ^ | August 10, 2012 | Kevin C. Caffrey

Posted on 08/10/2012 8:34:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

President Obama is on his way to killing the coal industry in the United States. Before Barack Obama became President he was quoted, stating that he would, "bankrupt the coal industry." The United Mining Association states that 50% of electricity used in the United States comes from coal. To put that into perspective according to UMA each person in the United States consumes 3.4 tons of coal in a year. The United Mining Association states that the demand for coal in 2010 was 1.05 billion tons, and ninety percent of that coal was used in the United States. The United States has the most coal reserves in the world with Russia second, and China third. Coal is the cheapest source of electricity in the United States. UMA argues that for every employee in the coal industry that Obama puts out of work, another 3.5 individuals will lose their jobs somewhere else in the American economy.

The point that the reader will be left with after reading this article is that President Obama and his "double-down" philosophy for "Green Energy" is costing the American coal industry billions and those billions are costing the American people more for electricity. The Mining Association (UMA) argues that coal workers are skilled labor; and that once the coal workers move and change their lives it is difficult to find and train quality workers after the Obama policy for the coal industry fails [emphasis added writer’s opinion].

If President Obama wins the election, then in four more years a new presidential administration may not be able to set America on the right energy track again. The new President will have a hard time putting humpty dumpty (American Energy Policy) back together again. America after another four years of President Obama will have to revamp the energy sector and that will cost the American taxpayer billions of dollars. Green Energy is thirty years out for the American free enterprise system in terms of its development with cost effectiveness. The Obama administration from a public policy perspective should have performed a cost-benefit analysis concerning the Green Energy market. Secretary Steve Chu and the President knew that their policies [The Chu Plan: explains paragraph] acknowledges that the federal government is pushing green energy faster than the free market is ready to accept it.

The American people are not ready to lose thousands of jobs and pay billions more for energy just so the President can tell the United Nations that he is doing everything in his power to meet expectations for carbon emissions. The President first should worry about the coal workers and the national debt of sixteen trillion dollars before he worries about the United Nations and the international community. Does it really matter if the President must tell the United Nations that he can’t meet the seventeen percent drop in carbon emissions that was promised? Mr. Chu believes that in creating artificially higher costs for fossil fuels that people will use less. This is true, but Mr. Chu should be worried about the welfare of the American people more than the welfare of the international community.

The secretary of Energy Mr. Chu is willing to have thousands of Americans lose their jobs in the worst recession since the Great Depression. Secretary Chu argues in his "The Chu Plan" that it does not matter, nor does he care about American jobs or the cost of living for Americans. Tripling the costs of fossil fuels for the rest of Americans is a good domestic policy according to Secretary Chu. How can any person with common sense not think that Mr. Chu is doing the job that the Obama administration wants him to do? This Presidential election is about the road that America will go down. We will be either a socialist nation under the Obama administration or a Romney freedom and liberty America.

In this writer’s opinion the most tragic thing about President Obama is that he doesn’t care about losing billions on bad green energy investments. People in the coal industry and other fossil fuels are losing their jobs, while the American energy sector wastes good money for green energy losses. It seems that the green energy losses do not matter to President Obama because they will be offset by regulating and charging the Coal Industry more to do business. The new costs for doing business are forcing businesses out of business. President Obama has beaten and broke the back of the coal business. There are too many regulations on businesses and the cost of doing business is too high. It is obvious to anyone watching the presidential campaign that somehow "Hope" is dead in this secular world. The global citizen (Obama) has spent too much money and now the world is sick. Yes, the old adage lives on "If America sneezes the world catches a Cold."

The diagnosis does not look good. America can’t help the world, because we are sick ourselves in debt. The National Debt Clock as this paper is written marches closer to sixteen trillion dollars. That amounts to over fifty thousand dollars for every Man, Women and Child that lives in America. President Obama is no longer about "Hope and Change" his campaign is about "Hype and Blame." It is incredible how intelligent and masterful the United States Constitution is written, because it understands and makes allowances to control the inherent difficulties of human emotions and greed. The 2010 elections meant losses for the Democrats and President Obama seems to be acting a little more defensive all of the time.

In 2010 the House of Representatives won a Republican majority. This allowed for changes in the House committees that control the various cabinet departments and agencies. The new House committee for the Environmental Protection Agency and the Department of Energy where told that they were being put on a tight leash. Broder did some research and discovered: "A House subcommittee voted on Thursday to strip the Environmental Protection Agency of its power to regulate greenhouse gases," President Obama vowed that he would veto any legislation that was placed on his desk that would restrict his cabinets from regulating coal and other fossil fuel industries. It is a good thing that President Obama was put in check like he was by the new Republican House of Representatives. Here are a few facts about the differences between fossil fuels and green energy. It will take 1.3 billion GE wind turbines to take the place of the forty eight percent of electricity that coal power plants produce in the United States. GE Wind Turbines are not cheap they run one million dollars per mega-watt. This means that a 1.5 mega-watt GE turbine would cost 1.5 million and two million if it is installed.

There are times in someone’s life when unbelievable pain and dismay rush through the body. A time when a person realizes that their dreams are shattered. And then this same person looks around in disbelief only to see many other men and their families who worked, loved, and cared for each other being thrown off the cliff like granny. The title of the article is "Obama Regulations kill Ohio Coal Mine Hundreds of Jobs Wiped Out." President Obama is a global citizen .This is evident by his own acknowledgement. This is a quote from an Obama speech at the Berlin Victory Column: "No doubt, there will be differences in the future. But the burdens of global citizenship continue to bind us together," In this writer’s opinion, President Obama wants to go down in history with love from the United Nations, and a reputation as the man who took America down. President Obama would then be paralleled only by Mikail Gorbachev who took down the Soviet Union. Global citizens are secularists that despise Nationalism or love of Country; secularists also despise all things American, like the American flag, patriotism, and God. Secular idealists are wolfs that are wrapped in sheepskin. This is what the head of Murray Energy, a subsidiary of Ohio American Energy had to say about President Obama:

"There will be additional layoffs, not only at Murray Energy, but also throughout the United States coal industry due to Mr. Obama’s ‘War on Coal’ and the destruction that it has caused to so many jobs and families in the Ohio Valley area and elsewhere," said Mr. Murray. "Both Mr. Obama and Vice President Joe Biden stated that there would be ‘no coal in America’ prior to their elections," said Mr. Piasecki. "They are making good on their intentions while they destroy so many lives and family livelihoods in this area for no benefit whatsoever," he concluded."

The American people must begin to worry about the future of our country. In a Washington Post article Gattuso points out that President Obama and his administrative agencies have created 106 regulations that add up to 46 billion dollars in costs to business. Former President Bush had 28 regulations with a total regulatory cost to business at 8.1 billion in the same three year time period. Americans are losing high paying jobs for no reason other than the warped ideology of our President. Prices on fuel, food and many other items that move by truck are going up and costing Americans more money. The extra money spent on necessities means that Americans do not have much discretionary income. This greed and corruption is only the beginning of President Obama’s Green Energy cronyism and what is being called green corruption. America does not have the luxury to worry about clean energy at this juncture in American economic history. This is not the Great Depression; in fact this recession economically will have a greater toll on America for decades to come.

During the Great Depression the American dollar was still backed by gold. The way that Obama is running up trillion dollar yearly deficits and printing trillions of dollars without any back up except the American peoples word will catch up to America very shortly. This country cannot stand on paper. The floating world exchanges and national abstract numbers will only float for so long. The housing bubble in the United States is nothing compared to a federal government bubble. When the government is no longer valid to the rest of the world, then America will end up like Greece. And when that bubble bursts one can only hope that they live in a good neighborhood with good friends, and a large arsenal. The riots will begin quickly. The people will want their ‘Free-stuff" and when they can’t get their free stuff from the government. It will be revolution time in America.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: coal; economy; energy; greenenergy; obama

1 posted on 08/10/2012 8:34:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
It is the central strategy of the Democrats: take things away from people, create a society in which people cannot manage on their own -- and then tell them that if they vote Democrat, all their needs will be taken care of.

It's a lot like a Fire Dept setting fire to your house in order to convince you that you really, really want a Fire Dept to be built next door to you.

2 posted on 08/10/2012 8:42:25 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Roger Taney? Not a bad Chief Justice. John Roberts? A really awful Chief Justice.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

There is no such thing as “green energy”.

The myth is a pretense, suggesting you get something for nothing.

It is promoted by the population control crowd, the anti-industrialists, anti-capitalist, eugenics types.

They tell countries in Africa they can’t have real power plants that have the potential to lift them from 3rd world status. No, they have to use pitiful solar or wind powered garbage.


3 posted on 08/10/2012 8:50:26 PM PDT by G Larry (Progressives are Regressive because their objectives devolve to the lowest common denominator.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
I can afford green energy, I just don't want green energy.

There is some green energy electric company that sets up a table at my local grocery store, hawking their wares.

I ask them where it comes from, they say “natural gas” of course.

And where does natural gas come from I ask. Do we not drill for NG?

Those retards don't know.

I tell them they are the problem not the solution, I feel justified walking away, they feel justified that I have done so.

He who laughs last, laughs best.

4 posted on 08/10/2012 8:52:48 PM PDT by KittenClaws
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

BTTT!


5 posted on 08/10/2012 9:04:14 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Green Energy" only works in the faculty lounge debate.

"Green Energy" never worked in a real life scenario.

6 posted on 08/10/2012 9:16:28 PM PDT by dancusa (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. H.L Mencken)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

thats the whold problem ..we cant afford all the crap our politicians are shoving down our throats. Of course they are laughing all the way to the bank


7 posted on 08/10/2012 9:30:05 PM PDT by dalebert
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Green Solar alone has decimated American taxpayer funds (to the advantage of Obama and his donors) and democrats are hellbent on limitless more funding for them. It is reprehensible and should be stopped in all forms and manner.

State (Ohio) seeks solar firm's $5M loan money

8 posted on 08/10/2012 10:50:05 PM PDT by MamaDearest
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Green energy is communism.


9 posted on 08/10/2012 11:23:00 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: G Larry

“It is promoted by the population control crowd, the anti-industrialists, anti-capitalist, eugenics types.”

Add Mitt Romney to that and you’ve knocked it out of the park.


10 posted on 08/11/2012 2:49:45 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

They like it when we burn corn for fuel.


11 posted on 08/11/2012 3:31:02 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

What’s the problem? Don’t you like your solar powered cell phone?


12 posted on 08/11/2012 4:17:17 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: freekitty

The cold war may be over (well, maybe), but the ideological battle with communism rages on under new names.


13 posted on 08/11/2012 5:13:59 AM PDT by Wildbill22
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: JCBreckenridge

Sure a lot of Obama supporters on FR lately....


14 posted on 08/11/2012 6:15:26 AM PDT by G Larry (Progressives are Regressive because their objectives devolve to the lowest common denominator.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: freekitty

Green is the new Red.


15 posted on 08/11/2012 6:19:07 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: KittenClaws
"I can afford green energy, I just don't want green energy."

There you go again. What you want doesn't matter to them, you're probably part of the 1%. And while you may be able to afford green power personally, a large majority of people can't. In liberalspeak, that means you get to pay for them too.

Not picking on you, just trying to point out that our individual liberties are going or gone.

16 posted on 08/11/2012 6:34:11 AM PDT by HangThemHigh (Entropy's not what it used to be.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: MamaDearest

Green energy sure has been a payoff for Big democratic donors....Lets stop all of it and put people back to work in the fossil fuel market and oil market..we have 1000’s of years in resources...we don’t need to be buyin gas from the middle east -—we are just buying ammunition for our enemys.....


17 posted on 08/11/2012 6:35:05 AM PDT by rxtn41
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

I saw a Weather channel special recently on a crew in Nome, AK trying to figure out how to climb an ice covered tower to fix a broken windmill.

They claimed that people were without power due to the broken windmill (a serious problem in Alaska in winter). What the hell are they smoking up there?

Wonder if this is the problem they were trying to fix?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wwLi1Vo2-4
Don’t think so that looks like a different tower. Probably replaced that with a better design.


18 posted on 08/11/2012 6:49:16 AM PDT by HangThemHigh (Entropy's not what it used to be.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: G Larry; All
... They tell countries in Africa they can’t have real power plants that have the potential to lift them from 3rd world status. No, they have to use pitiful solar or wind powered garbage.

Here's a we site you might find interesting "Eco-imperialism: Green Power, Black Death".

While the web site promotes a book, it also contains many interesting articles on how those promoting "green" lifestyle are harming those they claim to be protecting.

Paul K Driessen is a "former member of the Sierra Club and Zero Population Growth," who "abandoned their cause when he recognized that the environmental movement had become intolerant in its views, inflexible in its demands, . . . and insensitive to the needs of billions of people who lack the food, electricity, safe water, health care and other basic necessities that we take for granted".
19 posted on 08/11/2012 7:23:38 AM PDT by khelus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

From what I have heard is environmentalists have been involved in communism for quite sometime.


20 posted on 08/11/2012 7:40:29 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: G Larry

Yes, it’s a coverup and money laundering situation. They needed something to mask their true intentions that people in the West would buy into.


21 posted on 08/11/2012 7:45:00 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
The ONLY reason we have all this nonsense is because of the false notion that humans are the cause of 'Global Warming', now more popularly known as 'Climate Change'. Humans may be putting more CO2 into the atmosphere, but our contribution is still an extremely small percentage. It has never been proven that an increase in CO2 causes ANY changes in climate, even though the media has pushed that notion since Algore decided to become an acolyte of James Hansen of NASA.

One of the biggest problems in all this is that the AGW folks have plowed MILLIONS into 'education', and through seminars for teachers have perpetuated the myth, and literally brainwashed an entire generation of schoolkids into believing that using reusable bags when shopping will save the earth. Now, I don't have a problem using reusable bags; it reduces the amount of trash I have to deal with in my home, but I have no illusions that anything I do is going to either kill or save the earth.

It is indicative of the poor state of science education in this country that people actually believe in AGW. They don't have an understanding of the mechanisms of the climate with which to refute the arguments, so they thing the folks pushing the myth must be telling the truth. They especially are susceptible to the 'Big Oil' versus the 'poor environmentalists' notions, because many folks in this country tend to favor the underdogs.

22 posted on 08/12/2012 10:32:45 AM PDT by SuziQ
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson