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Paul Ryan no help to Mitt Romney with Hispanics
Politico.com ^ | By EMILY SCHULTHEIS and ALEXANDER BURNS

Posted on 08/15/2012 6:25:08 AM PDT by cotton1706

Mitt Romney is on track to lose the Latino vote by a wider margin than any Republican presidential candidate in over a decade, and strategists in both parties say he may have made a bad situation worse with his selection of Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan as his running mate.

What’s clear is that Romney’s lagging fortunes among Hispanics are unlikely to receive any boost from choosing a vice presidential candidate who has voted in Congress against the DREAM Act and supports overhauling entitlement programs that are extremely popular among Latino voters.

The Republican ticket’s dire position among Latinos has even stirred some hope among Democrats — and apprehension among some Republicans — that back-to-back smashing victories by President Barack Obama could move Latino voters in the Democratic column in a more durable way that could put the GOP at an electoral disadvantage for decades.

That’s an alarming prospect to GOP strategists who have seen their party driven to near extinction in states like California, where strident anti-immigration voices have turned the Latino vote away from Republicans, maybe for good. Even as Republicans have succeeded in electing more prominent Latino politicians, such as Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval and New Mexico Gov. Susana Martinez, they continue to lose ground in the battle for Latino voters nationally.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: hispandering; illegalaliens; latino; wedge
"Waaaaaa! Waaaaaaa! We wanted Rubio!! We were pushing Rubio!! Jeb Bush said he wanted Rubio!! Romney didn't pick Jeb Bush's co-opted man!! Waaaaa! Waaaaa!"

I'm really enjoying these politico articles. You can almost see these people stomping their feet and holding their breath as they write.

1 posted on 08/15/2012 6:25:12 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

BFD.

I understand American Jews will still support an anti-American Israel-hating racist pig fraud in November, too.


2 posted on 08/15/2012 6:27:37 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: cotton1706

Politico trying it’s best to “wedge”


3 posted on 08/15/2012 6:29:33 AM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: cotton1706

How come Politico and The Hill never publish articles critical of Obama and Liberals? As in:

Biden sucks so bad Insiders Fear He’s dragging down the ticket? Or,

Top Democrat Operatives Are Deeply Concerned That Obama’s New Policy Will Hurt Him with Voters in November. Or,

Operation Wall Sreet Activits Have Marxists Roots

How come we NEVER see such glaring headlines for Democrats? How come we only see such “insightful” articles with screaming headlines when it negatively impacts Republicans? Why is that?


4 posted on 08/15/2012 6:39:40 AM PDT by Obadiah (If Reagan had another son he would have looked like Paul Ryan.)
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To: Doogle

Is that all you got, Politico?


5 posted on 08/15/2012 6:45:58 AM PDT by Walrus (Restoring America starts today! Let's roll!)
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To: Doogle
Politico gives the strong impression that they are extremely biased toward the democrat party.

Of course we all know this not to be true.

6 posted on 08/15/2012 6:50:38 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: cotton1706
Ya... everybody knows the Presidential election should be about race..... right?

Isn't ethnicity, skin color or gender what really matters in today's political climate?

Who cares about Ryan's stance on individual liberty? He is the wrong choice because he is white. I guess racist groups could forgive Ryan for being white if he was a nationalist socialist.

7 posted on 08/15/2012 6:53:56 AM PDT by GregoTX (Federalist)
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To: Walrus

My hispanic car detailer picked up my car this morning and we had a ten minute conversation about how bad BO is.

He said his entire family is voting for R and R.

Politico made this up.


8 posted on 08/15/2012 7:01:37 AM PDT by Mountain Mary (Where can I get a Ryan 2012 shirt? Or should I just use white-out?)
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To: cotton1706

Politico is working hard for a 2nd Obama term.


9 posted on 08/15/2012 7:04:08 AM PDT by samtheman (Obama. Mugabe. Chavez. (Obamugavez))
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To: cotton1706

Hispanics will vote two to one for Dems regardless of who the VP nominee is. The gain for the Reps with Ryan is blue collar Dems, aka Reagan Democrats.


10 posted on 08/15/2012 7:04:46 AM PDT by kabar
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To: cotton1706
That’s an alarming prospect to GOP strategists who have seen their party driven to near extinction in states like California, where strident anti-immigration voices have turned the Latino vote away from Republicans, maybe for good.

Yet we win Texas, Florida and Arizona overwhelmingly. Maybe the problem isn't courting Latino voters. The problem is California is filled with voters of all colors who love their government benefits.

11 posted on 08/15/2012 7:09:05 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: cotton1706

I guess Rubio would have helped with the Latino vote. How much I can’t guess. As a non-latino living in Miami, I have the impression that Cubans are not overly popular with other Latinos(those from Central/South America and Mexico). Maybe some one else has a better understanding of this than I.


12 posted on 08/15/2012 7:10:39 AM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: samtheman
Politico is working hard for a 2nd Obama term.

Maybe they should stamp an Obama bumper sticker across their foreheads.

13 posted on 08/15/2012 7:10:47 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: cotton1706; All

The truly amazing thing is that dems like Harry Reid are never criticized for saying worse about ‘latino’s’ than Romney, Ryan or ANY republican ever did!

Harry Reid: illegal aliens “free loaders and scam artists”

OH! THE IRONY!
...

“Reid, now an impassioned champion of amnesty for 20 million illegal aliens in America, once called illegal aliens “free loaders and scam artists” which he proposed to deal with in his Immigration Stabilization Act in the United States Senate in 1993.
That proposed legislation was introduced to the floor of the US Senate with the following press release, in part, issued by Reid’s office on August 5, 1993.
“In response to increased terrorism and abuse of social programs by aliens, (I) today introduced the first and only comprehensive immigration reform bill in Congress. Currently, an alien living illegally in the United States often pays no taxes but receives unemployment, welfare, free medical care, and other federal benefits. Recent terrorist acts, including the World Trade Center bombing, have underscored the need to keep violent criminals out of the country.”
http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/search?q=Harry+Reid


14 posted on 08/15/2012 7:11:35 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: kabar

Hispanics will vote two to one for Dems regardless of who the VP nominee is. The gain for the Reps with Ryan is blue collar Dems, aka Reagan Democrats.
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Let me correct that for you:

Hispanics “ON WELFARE” will vote two to one for Dems regardless of who the VP nominee is. The gain for the Reps with Ryan is blue collar Dems, aka Reagan Democrats.

If the Hispanic vote hurts us it will be the illegal Hispanic vote that does us in. Over 40% of illegals draw welfare. How does this make any sense?


15 posted on 08/15/2012 7:13:19 AM PDT by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: ilgipper

I bet there are a lot of leftists walking around with Obama tatoos.


16 posted on 08/15/2012 7:23:00 AM PDT by samtheman (Obama. Mugabe. Chavez. (Obamugavez))
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To: JAKraig
Hispanics as a group vote two to one for the Dems. That is just a fact. The numbers on welfare are far greater than 40%.


17 posted on 08/15/2012 7:26:13 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Obadiah
How come we only see such “insightful” articles with screaming headlines when it negatively impacts Republicans?

Because the vast majority of the presstitutes are communists.

18 posted on 08/15/2012 7:28:33 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: cotton1706

¡Ridículo!


19 posted on 08/15/2012 7:39:27 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. - Modified Descartes)
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To: cotton1706

No, they would have hated Rubio too.

What this shows is that it took them two days rewrite their, “Rubio won’t really help Romney win the latino vote” article to fit Paul Ryan.


20 posted on 08/15/2012 7:52:36 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SampleMan
What this shows is that it took them two days rewrite their, “Rubio won’t really help Romney win the latino vote” article to fit Paul Ryan.
LOL!

So true.

21 posted on 08/15/2012 7:53:37 AM PDT by samtheman (Obama. Mugabe. Chavez. (Obamugavez))
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To: Mountain Mary

“My hispanic car detailer picked up my car this morning and we had a ten minute conversation about how bad BO is.

He said his entire family is voting for R and R.”

Yep. Middle-class is middle-class, regardless of ethnicity or skin color. Our interests are the same, regardless of ethnicity or skin color.

The middle-class is the ultimate egalitarian class. That’s why the Obammunists are trying to destroy the middle-class. Because the Obammunists can maintain power only by fostering class warfare, and by definition, the middle-class sits in the middle, and you can’t foster warfare from the middle.


22 posted on 08/15/2012 8:39:45 AM PDT by catnipman ((Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!))
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To: cotton1706

I think it is funny when pundits try to compare Hispanics with blacks, politically. Blacks are a guaranteed Democrat vote, more fool they, because that means neither Republicans nor Democrats have to give a squat what they think.

Hispanics, however, are not a guaranteed vote any more than whites are. They like some things about both parties, and dislike other things. So it is always a haggle to win them over. And unlike blacks, who thrive on promises alone, Hispanics demand results, so can be electorally fickle.


23 posted on 08/15/2012 9:36:51 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Hispanics, however, are not a guaranteed vote any more than whites are. They like some things about both parties, and dislike other things. So it is always a haggle to win them over. And unlike blacks, who thrive on promises alone, Hispanics demand results, so can be electorally fickle.

Most of us missed those years that the republicans won the "fickle" Hispanic results, what were those years that the guaranteed Hispanic vote did not deliver for the Democrats?

24 posted on 08/15/2012 10:29:28 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12

Most Cuban-Americans and Venezuelan-Americans tend to support the Republican Party, while Mexican-Americans, Puerto Ricans, and Dominican-Americans tend to support the Democratic Party. But Mexican-Americans are 64% of all Hispanics, so dominate the results.

In the 2010 midterm elections, 60% of Hispanics voted Democratic, while 38% voted Republican.

According to an October 2010 report by the Pew Hispanic Center, Hispanics rank education, jobs, and health care as their top three issues of concern. Immigration ranks as the fourth most important issue for all Latinos.

Republicans have long maintained their party is a natural fit for Hispanics, particularly recent immigrants, because of the party’s social conservatism, anti-abortion stance and positions for private school vouchers and other school choice proposals as well as lower taxes.

(However, ironically, long-time immigrants increasingly lean Republican, often because the Democrats just cannot get it through their heads that Hispanics are not just a variety of lighter-skinned blacks, so the Democrats can take them for granted, and they will respond to similar patronizing promises that are never delivered.)

The most Hispanic-savvy Republicans are the Texans, who understand Mexican-Americans a lot better than most Republicans.

For example, many Mexican-Americans are in favor of tighter border controls, *unless* the advocates of these controls tinge their arguments in anti-Mexican (ethnic) terms. They are very sensitive to prejudice directed against them, and it can turn them against anyone.

Importantly, Mexicans integrate differently depending on where they settle, and their new home does have an effect on their political leanings. For example in Los Angeles they can easily ghettoize, and not integrate at all, which favors Democrats. But in Phoenix, they have to integrate, living and working around whites, and they integrate quickly and prefer Republicans.


25 posted on 08/15/2012 11:15:09 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Hispanics, however, are not a guaranteed vote any more than whites are. They like some things about both parties, and dislike other things. So it is always a haggle to win them over. And unlike blacks, who thrive on promises alone, Hispanics demand results, so can be electorally fickle.

It was a simple enough request.

What were those years that the guaranteed Hispanic vote did not deliver for the Democrats?

26 posted on 08/15/2012 1:35:40 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12

I think you are reading too much into the word “Hispanic”, as I pointed out. Mexicans deliver democratic, but only by 14%. But Cubans and Venezuelans have long delivered Republican.

If you lump them together as the Hispanic vote, they lean Democrat, but not by much, only because the Mexicans outnumber the others.

To make things more confusing, Hispanics as a whole are less inclined to vote than whites or blacks. This hides their political support.

So the answer is “no”, they don’t deliver to either party.

At least not yet.


27 posted on 08/15/2012 3:31:09 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I know about the Hispanic vote, and while it is nice that you too know the nuances in some of it’s regionalism, and related to national origin, your post 23 was absurd.

The Hispanic vote is dependably democrat and will be in 2012.

You can talk about the variations of, and local elections involving Hispanics but you can not make this ridiculous claim, “”Hispanics, however, are not a guaranteed vote any more than whites are. They like some things about both parties, and dislike other things. So it is always a haggle to win them over. And unlike blacks, who thrive on promises alone, Hispanics demand results, so can be electorally fickle.””


28 posted on 08/15/2012 4:37:07 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: JAKraig

“Hispanics “ON WELFARE” will vote two to one for Dems regardless of who the VP nominee is. The gain for the Reps with Ryan is blue collar Dems, aka Reagan Democrats.”

My eye. Hispanics will vote 3 to 1 against Romney. I don’t buy the idea that Hispanics are as conservative as many try to make them out.


29 posted on 08/16/2012 11:25:53 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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