Skip to comments.The Coming Turnaround in 2012
Posted on 08/17/2012 9:51:02 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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FYI...the stakes we face in 2012. Please ping others if you have a mind to.
From your lips to God's ears...amen!
Thanks for the ping!
"the soul...it must be broken...and the man is yours, you won't need a whip, he'll bring it to you and ask to be whipped...Make man feel small...kill his aspiration...kill integrity...you stop all incentive to....excellence...just say that reason is limited...suspend reason and...anything goes...not judgment but public polls...no individuality will be permitted...kill the individual."
-Ellsworth Tooheys speech, from Ayn Rands The Fountainhead
Not so fast...
I spoke with a commerical banker and via Dodd-Frank they are scared of writing loans because they do not know if they will violate regulations that haven't been written. So does it repealed ASAP? One would hope...
In another conversation with a noted American that I cannot name, we discussed "the turnaround". Again it may take time was their answer (and not investment advice here) those in on the front of it might do rather well if they are willing to take the risk.
Obama and company have so FUBAR'd so many sectors of the economy and the way even goverment operates, I am skeptical of a massive turnaround on a dime, and I don't think we should get peoples hopes up only to have them dashed and hammer Romney/Ryan in the mid-terms.
I am not skeptical of "Capital" going off strike after 1/21/2012 however....
Amen, my FRiend...that is precisely what they seek to accomplish by appealing to the worst traits of human nature to ensnare our citizens to their wretched shackels.
Agreed that it will take time...but if they jumpp start everything with energy in a big way, and quickly move to remove oppresive regulations and lower corporate taxes as they promise...I believe it will occur much more quickly than we otherwise might think. A LOT of businesses are sitting on investments and waiting to see if Obama goes away...if he does, and if Romney shows the signs of doing what he promises, they will open the coffers rapidly.
Amen to that...may His Grace and His arm be there to help us in this endeavor.
People here in America have no idea just how precarious their existence has become. No idea at all.
[Obama and company have so FUBAR’d so many sectors of the economy and the way even government operates, I am skeptical of a massive turnaround on a dime,]
It will take a decade(s) to recover, the economic numbers are just horrendous both here and globally. Japan, Europe, US are all bankrupt from Eurosocialism and Keynesianism.
Certainly Obama must go, but Romney is not a god.
It is curious to see John Huntsman on that list, since he is one of the featured speakers at the Democratic Convention this year.
The key to winning, as always, is to get your party base to TURN OUT TO VOTE for you. If you can do that you will almost always beat the other guy.
If you can't, you lose.
So, is there some reason Republicans should vote for a Democrat that we don't know about? Must be a secret here.
I am speaking of the ones who created the largest mid-term turnaround election in history in 2010.
The people who ensured that their Governor, who was doing exactly the opposite of what Obama prescribed, remained in office in Wisconsin by a larger majority than the elected him there in the 1st place.
Thoes people...those Americans.
In that case the base did turn out, but a whole bunch of people crossed over and voted against Carter who was messing up so bad that the impact was felt by all Americans...and most of them responded accordingly. Those folks who were democrats became known as the "Reagan Democrats".
As bad as Obama's record is. As many peope, even people who voted for him initially, as have been hurt by his policies and his refusal to not only back off away from them, but to double down on them after the 2010 elections...given that hurt that is being felt across the nation, I believe we have the chance to see the same thing happen in 2012.
Three months will tell us.
Excellent thread and thanks for the ping
Thank you very much Jeff! Excellent work from you, as always!
Not True. This was debunked quickly by Mark Levin and his daughter on Twitter.
Amen. See my response in post 17.
People here in America have no idea just how precarious their existence has become. No idea at all.
You know that I'm not much of an optimist anymore, but I am actually beginning to see a bit more of an awakening (of sorts) over the past year or so. Certainly not the type of numbers necessary, but at least some of the fog seems to be lifting a bit. At this point I suppose that I am grasping at straws, but at least I am seeing some small steps in the right direction!
We face a horrible situation...but I believe in light of 2010 and the fact that Obama has doubled down on everything that brough that historic election about...that we have the opportunity here to amke a real and lasting turn around. I pray it is so.
Read “The Forgotten Man”. Amity Shlaes talked about the 1940 election. Willkie was running the 1936 race again yet FDR had already moved away from the New Deal and started to talk about the coming World War. In fact, the Schechter brothers came out in support of FDR.
Rescuse & Recovery 2012
So good to see you posting this. I see a ‘morning in America’ once more. These last 4 years have about done me in. 82 days left.
Is it enough and in time to be effective? We're all going to find out Real Soon Now.
BTW, check out the last entries in the killers without conscience thread. I've posted some chapter headings. BTW, you're on the editorial board. Manuscript headed your way once it's got to that point.
We need the Kenyan gone. He is a disaster. That said, Mitts record does not give me any warm fuzzies.
Caught the Democrats flat footed.
The winning margin came from INCREASED Republican turn out though.
The next big race where the winning candidate depended primarily on increased turnout of the existing base was Obama v. Hapless ~ as we recall Hapless got fewer votes than Bush, and barely more than Lurch!
That was simply pitiful.
The GOP-e failed to notice that somebody didn't show up to vote in 2008 ~ namely a huge chunk of the Republican base. They should have examined the entrails (Augery is an art suitible to politics) and figured out who had to be ENCOURAGED to show up in Republican voting contests.
Then, next thing you know, the Kook squad in Virginia rigged it so only Ron Paul and Mitt Romney got to run!
That pretty much carved the heart out of the Super Tuesday Primary series. Virginia saw a record low number of voters in that one.
Besides having to make up for Obama's 10 million vote lead last time, the Mittbots have to figure out how to get the 10 million people they discouraged from voting at all to show up and vote for a guy they don't like, and then see if they can get over 50% +1 vote in the Electoral votes.
Despite what the pollsters are telling you about relative popularity, the most important figure is the folks who will actually vote this year ~
This has given me pause for even beginning to think the Republican party pros know what is going on or how to win elections.
Outwardly, yes, but the demographics have changed dramatically in 32 years, as well as the number of people on the dole. So the number of "Romney Dems" will be limited; however, I am not predicting an Obama win. The tide does seem to be turning.
Amen to every bit of that, Sue. God’s speed to you an yours, and may we all be a part...at whatever level we can anou our conscience allows...of this turnaround to win our republic back!
There also was not a Tea Party. We’re going to find our ptretty quick which cancels outr which...but I’m putting my money on 239 year-old tradition.
This election is going to be a test for all of us. On the one hand, no one here can really abide Romney, and many are tired of having to accept the squishy establishment Republican as “the least worst” option. If enough of the base take this view, then Obama and those holding his puppet strings will indeed take the opportunity to dismantle the last remnants of the old republic. And then our choices will be much less appealing than they are now.
Further, stopping Obama is merely in the “necessary but insufficient” category. Even in ousting this administration is simply buying a bit of time to begin the real work of restoring liberty and prosperity and the rule of law. That’s a daunting task, and worse, it’s not really all that exciting or fun; it’s just hard work. But we retain powerful, resilient structures and cultural requirments for liberty to prevail; this can be done, the only question is if we have the willingness to act.
Libertarians and conservatives have focused for too long on their differences, and it’s time to put that aside for brief truce. We agree on limited government, the fundamental right to arms, the oppressive over-reach of seventy years of commerce clause lawlessness, economic liberty, personal responsibility, the list goes on and on. One hopes that we can stop the slide, and that we’ll have a Republic to squabble over in the coming four years.
It’s not true! I just read somewhere, (maybe “Twitter”? “My Space”, or one of those sites.)that it’s not true, and it’s also not true that one of his daughters turned Democrat! It was on either her own, or her Dad’s account, that she denied she went Democrat. She also debunked the rumor that her Dad was going to speak at Dem. convention. I was trying to see if it was true, I was wondering what happened to him! But by his daughter’s own words, he is not speaking there, and she’s not going Democrat, herself! If I’m wrong, I’ll go back and read again. This is just a rumor, and has been debunked.
"I believe it is now time for our party to unite around the candidate best equipped to defeat Barack Obama. Despite our differences and the space between us on some of the issues, I believe that candidate is Governor Mitt Romney. This is the most important election of our lifetime..
Here's where he said it: Huntsman Endorses Romney
So, I find it highly doubtful at all that he would speak for the Dems...in fatc, this is the first I have heard of it. Can you source such a claim?
Amen to every bit of that...but I believe, if we are successful in getting a strong House and Senate...and not just in numbers, but in the quality of the new resp...Tea Party reps, then I believe there is a good chance that Romney will surprise us all.
He will want to do what that majority indicates. He will “go along,” because it will not only be very hard to stand against, but because his own business policies will be able to be applied and make a big difference in the turnaround...which he would then get a lot of credit for, and be elected to a second term.
At least I hope and pray that is the case.
Will believe when seen. Lots of standard political promises in the list.
"Repeal & Replace" is not eliminating ObamaCare and I believe this is a sign I've seen Romney campaign behind.
If it is repealed, then it is off the books and done. If it is replaced with a different plan...and that is the key, a different plan altogether and not a revised plan...then the deed is done.
That will depend more on the House and Senate than it will on Romney however...it is their job.
That is why we simply MUST vote in a strong majority in the House and Senate...and not just in numbers, but in the type of Reps. They simply must be Tea Party types who are going up there to clean house, take no prisoners, and not go along to get along.
If we do that, they will bring Romney along and he will come because a huge turnaround will be happening, very positive for the whole country...and he will want to be seen as a big part of it. And if he does...then rightfully so and all the better.
One thing is for sure..with Obama in there as President, these things will not happen.
Another article of mine...on the brighter side.
No question. The down-ticket races are, in many ways, the more important issue this year. Capitol Hill needs to be fire hosed, bleached and fumigated!
Two words - Senate and filibuster. The Democrats are going to spend the next four years doing what the Republicans have spent the last four years doing - ensuring that the guy in the White House is a one-termer. Romney/Ryan will have a hard time accomplishing much of what you’re hoping for.
All depends on the numbers my friend, and the size of the victory we pull off. We shall see.
If true, and he does this, then Hunstman has gone truly off his rocker.
OTOH, he was Obama's Ambassador to China, and if he were to get up there and talk about his experience in China and then say, that although he "likes" Barrack Obama, he will be endorsing and supporting Mitt Romney for president, it could have a wholly different effect.
...ok, read it now. Huntsman has not confirmed any of this and it's been a week since the report. The sources are unnamed (always leary of that), and Hunstman's daughter is apparently going public claiming it is all a lie.
So, I am unconvinced, and I will believe it when I see it, or Hunstman himself confirms it...in the mean time, he has not retracted his endorsement of Romney, and by the wording, it would be a hard one for him to do.
If you recall I've mulled over the effect of the “push-push-push” for the past few years. It was either just going to grind everyone down and completely de-sensitize the populace with a daily dose of low-grade tyranny, or it was going to ultimately wake people up. The pressure of the jackboot on the accelerator pedal was the main variable at play. From my perspective it seems that the daily grind was working “well” (from their perspective) for quite some time. When they crossed over into hammering hard on religious liberty issues, I think that was the point that a lot more awakening has occurred. (Combined with the crumbling economy that can no longer even be spun into anything palatable.) Too little, too late? As you say, we will soon find out.
I'll check those KWC posts later this evening, thanks. Also, looking forward to anything that I can do to help with the manuscript, you know where to find me (very glad to hear that it is moving along!).
Thanks for the ping!
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