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Mystery Sub Terrorizes Americans { MADE UP STORY? }
Strategy Page ^ | August 17, 2012 | StrategyPage.com

Posted on 08/18/2012 9:59:15 AM PDT by hamboy

Recently there was another media report of a Russian SSN (attack sub) that was alleged to have recently operated undetected in the Gulf of Mexico for several weeks. This attracted the attention of professional submariners (especially retired ones, who could post more freely on the Internet). It was quickly determined that this was likely a made up story as attempts to trace it back to the source ended at the politically funded, as in 501(C)4, web site. The U.S. and Russian Navy refused to comment and attempts to confirm the incident have come up empty. Moreover, no law was broken by having an Akula sub cruise around the Gulf of Mexico in international waters. Indeed, such an event makes it easier for the U.S. Navy to get more money for new submarines.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: hoax; russian; submarine; undetected

1 posted on 08/18/2012 9:59:19 AM PDT by hamboy
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To: hamboy

“terrorizes”??


2 posted on 08/18/2012 10:04:35 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert
“terrorizes”??

Terrorized the minds of Americans, maybe.

3 posted on 08/18/2012 10:08:26 AM PDT by hamboy
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To: hamboy

Really?? I read about it. I didn’t feel terrorized.


4 posted on 08/18/2012 10:09:54 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: hamboy

Yeah, that never made sense to me. If it was “undetected”, then how do we know that it was undetected for several weeks. Also, how is it that we know that Iran’s nuclear facilities had a computer virus? Certainly, Iran wouldn’t leak that....


5 posted on 08/18/2012 10:10:01 AM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: nuconvert
I didn’t feel terrorized.

"Then, you are truly free."


6 posted on 08/18/2012 10:15:06 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (RED NECK KUNG FU by Corn Fuschas)
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To: LittleBillyInfidel
Perhaps an attempt at manufacturing publicity to drive up interest in a new submarine drama called Last Resort?
7 posted on 08/18/2012 10:21:25 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: hamboy
Perhaps it launched the Nov. 2010 mystery missile off Southern California?


8 posted on 08/18/2012 10:28:25 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: hamboy

Federal Funding budget time.

We are due to see a big table with a pile of legal guns for the BATF to be showing off.

Most have forgot Waco.


9 posted on 08/18/2012 10:32:53 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: hamboy

10 posted on 08/18/2012 10:40:24 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: nuconvert

I read it as “Well that’s what we and the Russians do with subs”. I was certainly not worried about a Russian attack.


11 posted on 08/18/2012 10:48:21 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

I thought it was the Japanese

12 posted on 08/18/2012 10:56:09 AM PDT by ThomasThomas
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To: hamboy

Ignore the man behind the curtain.


13 posted on 08/18/2012 10:58:10 AM PDT by jongaltsr
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To: hamboy

I agree with the Russians. We are (have become) just a bunch of Sterile CUCKOOS.

Thank you Osama Obama and your ilk.


14 posted on 08/18/2012 11:05:06 AM PDT by jongaltsr
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To: hamboy

So there wasn’t a Russian sub in the Gulf of Mexico?


15 posted on 08/18/2012 11:20:58 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Malone LaVeigh
The old Russian "Scorpion" sub in the background still on display alongside with the Queen Mary in Long Beach, Calif.


16 posted on 08/18/2012 11:42:33 AM PDT by hamboy
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To: hamboy; All
Probably wasn't this one
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Or this one


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And be glad it wasn't one of these... https://maps.google.com/?ll=69.435477,32.353234&spn=0.002453,0.008175&t=h&z=17 Yes, that's a Typhoon.

17 posted on 08/18/2012 12:20:36 PM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: Conan the Librarian
Trying again.
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18 posted on 08/18/2012 12:21:20 PM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: Conan the Librarian
Trying again on this one too.
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19 posted on 08/18/2012 12:33:34 PM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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20 posted on 08/18/2012 12:37:54 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: cripplecreek; hamboy

Yes. The use of the word “terrorized” is exaggerated, and overwrought. But I guess it sells.


22 posted on 08/18/2012 5:44:51 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: GBT1945
like the one that popped up in the middle of a US Navy exercise in the Pacific in 2007...
23 posted on 08/18/2012 5:50:32 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: GBT1945
i really don't know, if we were using active SONAR yeah, if we weren't, who knows, DE's are hard to detect and the USN didn't say they knew it was there and sure took a LOT of sh!t for it too...

unless you shadow a DE from port for it's whole run, they are damn hard to find once they go deep

25 posted on 08/20/2012 2:45:32 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: GBT1945
according to the Navy...
Navy to discontinue cold war relic Posted: Monday, September 27, 2004 By The Associated Press

With terrorism the new global threat, a network of radio antennas that let the Navy maintain secure communications with submarines at sea has become yet another Cold War relic.

On Thursday, the Navy will shut off its extremely low frequency radio transmitters in northern Wisconsin and Michigan, saying the 15-year-old system, first proposed in the 1960s, is outdated and no longer needed.

27 posted on 08/20/2012 7:24:42 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: GBT1945
lets put it this way, the leftists that wanted it shut down no longer picks up the ELF signal... it's doesn't take rocket science to pick the ELF signal even if you can't decode it and as far as they are concerned it's no longer in operation

question: just exactly what is you source that we can track every submarine in the world over 25'

enquiring minds want to know...

29 posted on 08/21/2012 3:37:46 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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