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No Wag the Dog Election Surprise?
pure vanity | 08/17/2012 | FreeAtlanta

Posted on 08/19/2012 8:19:49 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta

Is Obama caught between a rock and a hard place?

Many of us have speculated that he would do anything to get reelected. He would even have a war with Iran or N. Korea... but, maybe that is off the table.

It would not help him with conservatives. We know he is bad and want him gone. It might help a little with moderates or independents, but it would hurt with a large chunk of his no war, noway base.

I was fearful that he would get us in a huge international disaster before the election, but with each passing day, that anxiety decreases a little.

What do you all think? Have the odds been going down, up or staying the same that he will get us into a conflict with another nation before the election?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Politics
KEYWORDS: agenda21; bho2012; dncstrategy; elections; obama; rockandhardplace; romney; threatmatrix; wagthedog
I think the odds are decreasing; I think there is now about a 40% chance that he uses wag the dog. At the beginning of the year I thought nearly 100%.
1 posted on 08/19/2012 8:19:57 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta
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To: FreeAtlanta

His leftist base would come out gung-ho for any war BHO starts. They are only anti-war when Republicans sit in the Oval Office, remember those anti-war demonstrations ended when BHO was sworn in.


2 posted on 08/19/2012 8:27:10 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: FreeAtlanta

It’ll happen. Give it time. Axelrod will stop at nothing!


3 posted on 08/19/2012 8:27:59 AM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: FreeAtlanta

There is nothing Obama could do that would prevent his phony hypocritical followers from voting for him.

Most of the anti war folks in Democrat party are more anti Christian/anti Republican, than they are anti war.

Sure they may make some noise, but will still support him at the voting booth.

I to have worried that Obama might attack Iran for political gain.

We know that his interest in Osama was strictly political


4 posted on 08/19/2012 8:28:28 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2012 OR BUST)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Time is now running short for the Democrats - there are only two monthly EBT charge-ups on the dozens of millions leeches’ cards left. Too bad they aren’t mailed checks in which Obama could insert convenient “If you don’t vote, Republicans will stop your next check” warnings.

My honest guess is that Obama will issue several hundred billion dollars in some sort of equalization payment rebates (left over from TARP?) to these leeches to ensure they get out and vote. Watch for it, just a couple-three months away now..


5 posted on 08/19/2012 8:30:07 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: FreeAtlanta
My prediction was he would go to war with Iraq.

But there have been few new troop movements, and it's getting late.

Maybe not.

But, as I always say: If Hitler had been as lazy as Obama, the 1940's would have been a pretty nice decade!

6 posted on 08/19/2012 8:32:13 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I love the Universe, and it loves me.)
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To: FreeAtlanta
The only war Obambi is making is on the American people.

We’ve seen the stories about large purchases of ammunition being made by federal agencies that have nothing to do with our military or law enforcement.

Why would the National Weather Service (46,000 rounds) and the Social Security Administration (174,000 rounds) need to purchase these large quantities of powerful ammo?

Perhaps the more important question is why these are otherwise nonthreatening agencies buying hollow point bullets that have been internationally outlawed since 1899?

Obambi chanelling Sir Winston Churchill...(directive to his war cabinet on WWII)...

1. Destroy means of production and distribution of electricity and coal mining

2. Destroy means of production, refining and distribution of petroleum.

3. Destroy manufacturing capacity

4. Terrorize the civilian population.

7 posted on 08/19/2012 8:33:35 AM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Obama will amp up the drug war....by parachuting into Colombia with a cokestraw up his nose and a bong under his arm! LOL.... I don’t doubt a dirty WH trick in September or October as Barry’s numbers continue to plunge and re-election looks doubtfull.


8 posted on 08/19/2012 8:34:33 AM PDT by jakerobins
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To: FreeAtlanta
I think there's loads of potential for them to play some very severe games. In addition, if they lose you can count on them leaving "scorched earth" for the republicans to deal with.

I wouldn't count out the worst case scenarios just yet.

In fact, I'd be willing to bet they'd encourage the situation, and in a lost election scenario, they'd simply ignore it while the world burns right up until they can drop it in the republican's lap.

Then they'll scream for an overnight solution.

Here's to hoping I can say "You were right" in a few months, but I think we're in store for some nasty times ahead.

9 posted on 08/19/2012 8:36:38 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: FreeAtlanta

So if Commander Zero doesn’t seem too worried, he must know or thinks he knows something we don’t.

Could real question be does it really matter who is elected?

Maybe Obama is the scarecrow to get us all to run to the “safety” of the picked man Romney. Remember, for almost all of his career and very recently at that, Romney has supported virtually every policy that Obama has except for more aggressive “taxing the rich”.

Also, Obama continued virtually everyone of Bush’s less popular policies and just overlaid his own on top.

It gets more confusing everyday.

Our hope lies in the states, not federal level. The states made the federal government. They must unmake it by holding it accountable to the contract that is the US Constitution.


10 posted on 08/19/2012 8:43:29 AM PDT by Lowell1775
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To: FreeAtlanta
As the election draws nearer and it becomes increasingly clear that Hisself will lose, I think the question becomes, “How can He justify postponing or indefinitely suspending the election?”

Wars, revolutions, civil unrest excuses come to mind as justification for martial law, but how will he foment such troubles by November? Perhaps a currency crash which upturns the welfare state overnight could be his casus belli on the American people.

11 posted on 08/19/2012 8:53:36 AM PDT by Jacquerie (I want my America back.)
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To: Jacquerie

Iran is infiltrating Iraq, the Russians and Chinese are supporting Assad in Syria, the USA is supporting the Al Qaeda/Taliban Muzzie BroHood and Israel wants to take out Iranain nuke production sites...I’d say everything is hunky-dory, just the way Oblamo wants it...


12 posted on 08/19/2012 9:00:58 AM PDT by GRRRRR (He'll NEVER be my President, FUBO! Treason is the Reason! Impeach the Kenyan)
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To: Lowell1775
Russian sub off Cuba may be setting for a base to be set up. With Russia supplying arms to Iran that could be used as an excuse to confront Russia( and be perceived as another JFK)
13 posted on 08/19/2012 9:01:18 AM PDT by shadeaud ( “Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8”. Just doing my duty a Christian)
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To: spokeshave

Bears repeating:

Perhaps the more important question is why these are otherwise nonthreatening agencies buying hollow point bullets that have been internationally outlawed since 1899?

Obambi chanelling Sir Winston Churchill...(directive to his war cabinet on WWII)...

1. Destroy means of production and distribution of electricity and coal mining

2. Destroy means of production, refining and distribution of petroleum.

3. Destroy manufacturing capacity

4. Terrorize the civilian population.


14 posted on 08/19/2012 9:02:19 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little. EdmondBurke)
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To: FreeAtlanta; Nachum

Interesting discussion.


15 posted on 08/19/2012 9:05:24 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little. EdmondBurke)
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To: FreeAtlanta
Don't know what will happen, FreeAtlanta, and do not know if something will happen. I gage something happening or something not happening at 50/50. There are many options available to powerful people. Using those options can catch those using the options in strange predicaments where the powerful are caught up in all which the powerful would bestow on each of us. Best guess 50/50.

I do think zer0 and his crowd would do most anything and everything to hold onto power. It may not begin until after zer0 and his crowd are defeated, though when thinking in those terms my best guess is greater than 50/50. Prayers for all of us.

16 posted on 08/19/2012 9:09:08 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

There will certainly be an October Surprise of some kind. Last time, in 2008, it was the sudden announcement of an economic catastrophe—Bush’s fault—that left both Bush and McCain standing there with their mouths open, as Bush’s Treasury Secretary pulled the rug out from under both of them, in complicity with Obama. Obama was the “smart guy” who would fix it.

What kind of a surprise this time? Who knows? Maybe race riots? Maybe a war? Maybe another economic disaster which is blamed on Republicans in congress, who are stopping Obama from fixing it? Maybe the sudden revelation that Mittens is gay? (Never mind that Obama is gay—that doesn’t count!)

Whatever, you can count on something suddenly exploding, and all the media picking it up—straight from the White House basement.


17 posted on 08/19/2012 9:10:59 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

I think, whatever it is, it will be race-based.


18 posted on 08/19/2012 9:39:21 AM PDT by FrogMom (There is no such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: FreeAtlanta
There is still plenty of time to set up some sort of false flag attack on either the president himself or his family. The accused will be either the Tea Party (my belief, as it would enable the inner cities to riot and bring production and transportation to a halt and suspension of elections) or it will be said to come from outside of the country, enabling a counter-attack and suspension of elections. I'd put money on some sort of Reichstag moment from this Godless, soulless, evil bunch of cretins.

I've already told my family that the first roadblock that goes up in my city "for our protection" will be the bat signal to get the hell out of dodge. As everyone in Argentina learned, they put the roadblocks around the city for "protection," and then at the right moment tighten the noose and you're all ensnared.

19 posted on 08/19/2012 10:07:51 AM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Of course they will wag the dog! Ha.

You think it is an accident that the various agencies are buying up ammo? They are just biding their time.

When it comes, it will be nasty too.


20 posted on 08/19/2012 10:21:57 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Jacquerie

He won’t. As bad as things are, or have been in the past, the elections have continued. You think Obama is abusing the powers of his office? He’s a lightweight compared to Wilson, he had the power to do things that Obama would only dream of, and he used it. And even he couldn’t impede the 1916 or 1918 elections.


21 posted on 08/19/2012 10:25:49 AM PDT by JerseyanExile
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To: FreeAtlanta

Of course there will be a “wag the dog” event. What it will be I can’t say, but you know Axelrod and Obamao are plotting something. What the Republicans have to do is have a counter “wag the dog” plan ready to unleash immediately with a follow up slam like Breitbart would have done (I truly enjoyed watching Breitbart hit the Dems with something and than when they were picking themselves up off the carpet he’d floor them again with a roundhouse).


22 posted on 08/19/2012 10:42:37 AM PDT by rex regnum insanit (falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus)
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To: FreeAtlanta

I think that the possibilities are endless. This is an administration that is both self-centered and dismissive of Law. Add in that they are fundamentally delusional and ANYTHING is on the table. ANYTHING!


23 posted on 08/19/2012 10:46:02 AM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

About the only recourse left that may get him votes now is to openly and brazenly send out cash for votes, he will do that or some form of enticement like a $5,000 EBT debit card, valid only after the election.

Honestly, even fear tactics like arming every single Federal worker isn’t getting the fear drive into gear, because all of America still has more guns and ammunition.

And his theory of the “gold or lead” offer won’t work either.

But then half of that idea may just fly, with a lot of strapped for cash people I would arguably say food for votes may work, or gas for votes or simply cash for votes.


24 posted on 08/19/2012 10:55:05 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Vote for Sarah Palin, she is the cure to the disease and infection of socialism.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

There is still plenty of time within which to execute an “October Surprise.” They have had three years to prepare for the contingency that “The Divine One” may face reelection problems.


25 posted on 08/19/2012 11:07:16 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Friendofgeorge

If he attacks (or abets an Israeli attack) on Iran, he loses all cred with his Bruthas...That is a fact....he can’t. My fear is that Ahmamurderijad will have the fire, (even if it is from Pakistan) and will use it before November...


26 posted on 08/19/2012 11:48:17 AM PDT by Shady (The Tea Party is the Party of the American People, Working and creating wealth in SPITE of OBAMA!)
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To: FreeAtlanta

My leftwing wife and her rightwing husband speculate on a massive crackdown on ‘drug cartels’ and ‘smuggling operations’ operating through the US, but mostly along the border and within the border states. A semi-domestic semi-war on something vague and ill defined, which few people would be willing to defend.


27 posted on 08/19/2012 12:11:41 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans. Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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