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Ryan Bounce in FULL EFFECT as Poll has Romney Soaring to 14-Point Lead In Battleground-State Florida
Reaganite Republican ^ | August 22, 2012 | Reaganite Republican

Posted on 08/22/2012 5:29:47 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican

As predicted here, the Romney campaign has not only pulled-ahead nationally following the selection of Paul Ryan as his running-mate, but has now leaped to a double-digit lead in Florida (54-40%) according to Foster-McCollum-White, a Michigan-based pollster- the margin for error is 2.53%.

Although highly reliable Rasmussen has Romney up by only two in this week's Florida poll of likely voters, the FMW's astonishing numbers may suggest a trend of some magnitude has already begun. Earlier polling had found that the numerous senior-citizens of the Sunshine State were -regardless of 'progressive' drivel to the contrary- far more terrified of Obamacare than anything the habitually-dishonest Obama campaign claims Ryan is going to do to them... and thus, today's numbers.

In fact, picking Paul Ryan might turn-out to be one of the best decisions Willard ever made, as it seems that much of the TEA Party movement is responding quite positively to his grand gesture towards the GOP's (vigilant) right.

Yet the Romney 14-point lead in Florida may only be the beginning of something big and powerful that's been unleashed... a long-suppressed backlash in this country against the incompetent, nefarious, and given-way-too-many-mulligans Obama Administration.

With even the youth vote starting to go against him, you have to wonder if there will be enough residual voters impressed with Obama's 'cool' neckties and Ludacris CD's to put him over the top this time... doesn't look like it.



And consider this: maybe Romney isn't a principled conservative, but he's apparently smart/pragmatic enough to see that this is what the times -and electorate- are calling for. 

With a history of bucking, weaving, waffling, and flip-flopping on conservative issues -based on which way the political winds were blowing- it's been difficult for conservatives to trust him on repealing Obamacare, spending, and constitutional issues... myself surely included.

After being pushed to the right in the primaries and now TEA Party hero Paul Ryan at his side, who's to say Mitt's conservative make-over of recent years will lack permanence... rather, he'll likely be bringing what the market demands. Most Bain-managed businesses were in the retail sector, you know... that's just the way the guy thinks, 'give 'em what they want'. That, and
hire good salesmen... which is exactly what he did last week.


It seems that Romney also concluded that with only 5% or so undecideds to fight over, he's better served by reaching out to the GOP base- and did he ever when he chose Ryan for VP.

While it's far from certain that Mitt Romney has given up on statism forever, we can only hope- but big-government solutions and wasteful spending wouldn't benefit Romney politically in the near-to-medium term, imho. 

I now believe that Mittens WILL repeal Obamacare, and that
Rep Paul Ryan could be president in 2016 or 2020: overall, things are suddenly looking up for conservatives after what felt like a disappointing primary season...


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TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: florida; poll; romney; ryan

1 posted on 08/22/2012 5:30:03 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican
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To: Reaganite Republican
I don't know, MSNBC has 0bama in the lead everywhere and ALL negative numbers are for the House only.

Democrats everywhere should be jumping with joy and complacent enough to stay home on election day if they watch MSNBC.

2 posted on 08/22/2012 5:41:27 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Reaganite Republican
-"... may only be the beginning of something big and powerful that's been unleashed."

Dear Lord, let this be true!!!!

3 posted on 08/22/2012 5:41:53 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: Reaganite Republican

Question, how can Romney be up fourteen and the national polls (NBC/WSJ) are showing Obama with a two to four point lead? Are they still oversampling democRATs?


4 posted on 08/22/2012 5:41:53 AM PDT by oncebitten (Obama: could not get a clue if he were covered in clue musk and standing in a field of horny clues.)
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To: ken5050; AdvisorB

*** PING ***


5 posted on 08/22/2012 5:42:10 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican
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To: Reaganite Republican

Trying to find that poll and i can’t.


6 posted on 08/22/2012 5:44:13 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: EGPWS

“Democrats everywhere should be jumping with joy and complacent enough to stay home on election day if they watch MSNBC.”

Did you see in the news today that MSNBC actually got half a million bucks of ‘stimulus’ funds for some ads that of course didn’t ‘save or create’ any jobs... except Tingles’, maybe


7 posted on 08/22/2012 5:46:35 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican
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To: Reaganite Republican

This smells like blog pimping. How about a link to the actual poll?


8 posted on 08/22/2012 5:49:57 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Stop the bleeding, Todd Akin. Do the right thing and step aside!!)
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To: Reaganite Republican

And this in spite of the Akin anchor...


9 posted on 08/22/2012 5:51:20 AM PDT by donozark (Old Indian saying:Follow the cigar smoke, find the fat man there.)
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To: Reaganite Republican
No way we are up 14pts.

We will win Fl. but lets keep ourselves in reality.

10 posted on 08/22/2012 5:52:37 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Reaganite Republican
far more terrified of Obamacare than anything the habitually-dishonest Obama campaign claims Ryan is going to do to them

Winning issue. Portray Obama's medicare attacks as a "bait and switch" and bring up that OBAMACARE is the plan that will "end medicare as we know it".

They're focusing well on the $700+ bil Obama cut. But they have to go further, imho, by stating that Obamacare given enough time, will utterly destroy medicare.

Beat 'em at their own game.
11 posted on 08/22/2012 5:55:19 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Reaganite Republican

I went to the FMW site. There’s no reference to this poll anywhere. Link please.


12 posted on 08/22/2012 5:55:19 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Stop the bleeding, Todd Akin. Do the right thing and step aside!!)
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To: wiggen; All

Poll link here

http://www.news-press.com/article/20120821/NEWS0107/120821022/Blog-Poll-shocker-Romney-up-double-digits-Florida


13 posted on 08/22/2012 5:56:34 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican
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To: Reaganite Republican

OK. Saw it. It also shows Mack ahead of Nelson by 8. Great development if it’s real.

Any sampling data available?


14 posted on 08/22/2012 6:00:01 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Stop the bleeding, Todd Akin. Do the right thing and step aside!!)
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15 posted on 08/22/2012 6:00:01 AM PDT by narses
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To: Reaganite Republican

In 2008, McCain just didn’t have enough ‘umph’ to win.

We got Obama with his hope and change.

Obama’s vision of hope and change turned out to not be the same vision of hope and change most wanted. Obama has been EPIC FAIL.

If the GOP can capitalize on Obama’s EPIC FAIL, they will make the 2010 Dem shellacking look like child’s play.

If the GOP can keep their feet out of their mouths, keep from tripping up, keep from being distracted by shiny objects [distraction traps the Dems keep throwing at them], they could pull off one of the biggest Dem shellackings in history.

There is always time, however, for the GOP to pull defeat from the jaws of victory. Look at Akin in Missouri and how he saved McCaskell.


16 posted on 08/22/2012 6:01:09 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Reaganite Republican

Kudos to Romney for picking Ryan.

Now, if he’d just step aside and let Ryan run, this world would be a nicer place.


17 posted on 08/22/2012 6:01:15 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Reaganite Republican; Political Junkie Too; randita; justiceseeker93; Impy
I would take this poll with a huge grain of salt. For example, from the poll:

Question #8:

In Which Age Range Do You Fit?
1- Between 18 to 30 years old: 1.33%
2- Between 31 to 50 years old: 7.65%
3- Between 51 to 65 yearsold: 27.48%
4- Ages 66 and older: 63.54%

Does that make any sense? This is basically a poll of senior citizens. The percentages for Latinos and Blacks are also suspect.

A little opposition research is order. Try Nate Silver's (NYT) analysis of this poll

18 posted on 08/22/2012 6:02:26 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (.)
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To: xzins

I first became aware of Ryan during his part at the Republican Healthcare Summit when he took it to Obama and Obamacare. He was impressive.

I kept hoping he would jump into the primaries fray. Too bad he didn’t. But, at least, Romney had enough good judgement to select him for the #2 spot. That indicates that Romney is serious about economic issues.

Ryan comes across as knowledgeable, sincere, and determined.


19 posted on 08/22/2012 6:08:05 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: ScottinVA

I can’t find any sampling data beyond 2.5% margin for error... but the SAME polling outfit also found that the US Senate race in Florida has Rep Connie Mack IV (R) leading incumbent Bill Nelson 51%-43%... as Florida goes, so goes the nation!

Romney has a little lead in OH now too, and Wisconsin -against all odds- is now in-play too

I smell somethin’ cooking...


20 posted on 08/22/2012 6:09:48 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican
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To: Reaganite Republican

Thank you.


21 posted on 08/22/2012 6:19:34 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: InterceptPoint

Very interesting that the poll was conducted by an outfit that works primarily for Democrats—and it’s the same organization that shows Romney with a four-point lead in Michigan. You’d think a Democratic outfit would get the sampling right for some of its most important constituencies.

Of course, there are a couple of items I can’t find in the poll. First, what was the split of Dims and Republicans? And secondly what was the percentage of seniors who voted in Florida in 2008 and 2010? Yeah, the over 60 demographic is over-sampled, but not by that much, and turnout by seniors is the highest of any voting group.


22 posted on 08/22/2012 6:20:20 AM PDT by ExNewsExSpook (uoted)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Thanks... didn’t want to throw the cold water of skepticism on this, but there’s a plethora of bogus polling out there. Just wanting to separate the real stuff from the contrived.


23 posted on 08/22/2012 6:21:16 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Stop the bleeding, Todd Akin. Do the right thing and step aside!!)
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To: ScottinVA

Who knows if these guys are out-liers or something more significant... but still, good to see

IMHO Obama is in trouble, undecideds NEVER break the incumbents’ way in bad times... NO way

BUT we need to make sure it’s not close enough to steal, eh...


24 posted on 08/22/2012 6:24:09 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican
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To: LibFreeUSA
Dear Lord, let this be true!!!!

Amen!

25 posted on 08/22/2012 6:33:15 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Reaganite Republican

It’s good to see in that, based on their percentages of those polled, the seniors (63% in the sample??) at least seem to like Romney/Ryan. Still don’t know the D vs R breakdown, though.


26 posted on 08/22/2012 6:36:01 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Stop the bleeding, Todd Akin. Do the right thing and step aside!!)
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To: InterceptPoint
Silver does a fair analysis. Applying his "special sauce" to the poll, he acknowledges that Romney would have something like a 7 point lead in FL.

Four states have been hit especially hard during the recession, particularly in regards to housing issues. They are CA, FL, NV, and AZ.

CA is a lost cause and AZ is pretty reliably GOP, but FL and NV are trending Romney.

MI and OH have lost a lot of jobs. MI is polling tighter, but OH is being stubborn. I wish we'd see more positive movement toward Romney in OH.

27 posted on 08/22/2012 6:37:46 AM PDT by randita (Paul Ryan is "Mr. Smith goes to Washington.")
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To: oncebitten

I think the problem is that this is a bad pro-GOP poll which is just as useless as the bad pro-Dem polls.


28 posted on 08/22/2012 7:00:09 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: xzins

Amen.


29 posted on 08/22/2012 7:00:52 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM (Sin Makes You Stupid.)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Because millions of voters have only cell phones, these polls are all suspect from the outset. Add to that an over-sampling of Democrats in most polls, and their reliability is nil.


30 posted on 08/22/2012 7:11:03 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Reaganite Republican

I’ll go out on a limb and predict that Romney-Ryan campaign events will turn into mass rallies.

Regardless of a likely sampling error, a big lead among seniors is great news and indicates voter awareness of the issues.


31 posted on 08/22/2012 7:19:17 AM PDT by calico_thompson
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To: Reaganite Republican
This is an outlier, no different than that 11-point lead that Quinnipiac produced some time ago.

I do think Romney is ahead one or two in FL, and that it will be a solid three by election day. But not 13 . . . although one can dream.

32 posted on 08/22/2012 7:38:37 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: oncebitten

The NBC/WSJ oversampled Dems by 5% points. Sooner or later reality is going to hit them.


33 posted on 08/22/2012 7:45:40 AM PDT by erod (This Chicagoan will crawl over broken glass to vote the fake Chicagoan Obama out!)
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To: Reaganite Republican

I am not sure about this poll, but once people realize that Ryan really don’t want to push grandma off the cliff they will come around.


34 posted on 08/22/2012 8:42:31 AM PDT by verga (Forced to remove tag line by administrator)
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To: erod

“The NBC/WSJ oversampled Dems by 5% points. Sooner or later reality is going to hit them.”

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True fact- the timing of that would depend on how much they value their credibility going forward


35 posted on 08/22/2012 9:07:56 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican
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To: Reaganite Republican

And if true the correct reaction from the Obama Campaign is to send Joe Biden to Tampa...NOT!!!


36 posted on 08/22/2012 9:09:15 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

During the Demwit primary season of 1960, JFK (on the campaign trail) was asked by a reporter what he would do to dispel the idea that a Roman Catholic couldn’t be elected. “We’re going to [LNIV] well take Ohio, for starters!” That didn’t get quoted in the papers and other media, of course. Thanks Reaganite Republican.


37 posted on 08/22/2012 7:00:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
What is [LINV] please? It doesn't belong among any of the acronyms I know...

Cheers!

38 posted on 08/22/2012 7:20:32 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: InterceptPoint; randita; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; Perdogg

Over 60% seniors in that poll? It’s nonsense then, Florida is not just a giant retirement home. Silver’s altered # of a 7% lead is believable and great.

Of note though is the margin of difference in the Senate race. Nelson is 3 points ahead of Obama and Mack 3 points behind Romney.


39 posted on 08/23/2012 2:56:57 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Reaganite Republican

As of today Real Clear Politics gives Florida to Romney in their “No Toss Ups” Electoral Map.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map_no_toss_ups.html


40 posted on 08/23/2012 7:55:17 AM PDT by dervish (ABO)
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To: InterceptPoint

See my post #40. RCP just changed Florida to Romney.


41 posted on 08/23/2012 7:58:24 AM PDT by dervish (ABO)
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