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Akin: Hyenas in the GOP ignore medical science, eat their own
Rightly Concered Blog on American Family Association ^ | 8/22/2012 | Bryan Fischer

Posted on 08/22/2012 7:43:13 PM PDT by JediJones

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To: PhxTM06

these people are hopeless. They are just digging a deeper hole. They want to move on and forget what Akin said, and they then come up with pseudo science to then BACK UP what he said


121 posted on 08/22/2012 10:25:27 PM PDT by hecht (restore Hetch-Hetchy, and screw San Francisco and Pelosi)
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To: Kickass Conservative
Did I say the Election was over?
This is what you said...Yeah, his “gaffe”. Let's see, his “gaffe” turned a slam dunk 11% LEAD into a 65% LOSS in less than 72 Hours.
I asked two questions...
The election is over? When did that happen?

You can only have a loss after an election is held, right?
So I ask again...The election is over? When did that happen?

Let’s see, his “gaffe” turned a slam dunk 11% LEAD into a 65% DEFICIT in less than 72 Hours<
Are you basing your assertion on the PPP Poll?
Q5 This past weekend, Todd Akin said that abortion should be illegal even in the case of rape, because, “If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.” Do you strongly agree, somewhat agree, somewhat disagree, or strongly disagree with Akin’s comments?
Strongly agree 6%
Somewhat agree 12%
Somewhat disagree 14%
Strongly disagree 65%
Not sure 4%

Is that one question where you're getting your 65% figure from?

122 posted on 08/22/2012 10:25:35 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

we can sure win on the strongly agree


123 posted on 08/22/2012 10:28:15 PM PDT by hecht (restore Hetch-Hetchy, and screw San Francisco and Pelosi)
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To: PhxTM06
I don't trust anyone’s opinion after this all started. Everyone has an agenda. I'm going to bed. Maybe while I'm sleeping you can tick off more conservatives who will refuse to vote with the gop & romney because of their attack on a fellow Christian & Conservative. I think you already talked 3 into voting no on Romney. Are you sure your not a democrat working the Obama campaign?

I did find this so it looks like Romney needs to drop out:

Romney Surrogate Promotes Todd Akin’s Weird Ideas About Rape, Female Physiology
“Legitimate rape.”

“Forcible rape” - - the distinction Paul Ryan and his anti-abortion buddy Todd Akin tried to write into federal health care funding legislation.

And those amazing female powers Maureen Down discovered in the odd-ball right’s science comic books that can wish away a pregnancy.

Where do these leading conservatives get such ideas?

Mitt Romney was a devotee during his 2007 presidential campaign of one Dr. John Willke, a leading right-to-live physician who has promoted weird ideas about female physiology and rape that were channeled the other day by Republican Senate candidate Todd Akin.

Reports The Atlantic online:
Hailing him as “The Father Of The Pro-Life Movement” and “an important surrogate for Governor Romney's pro-life and pro-family agenda,” the Romney for President campaign in 2007 welcomed Willke’s endorsement.

“I am proud to have the support of a man who has meant so much to the pro-life movement in our country,” Romney said in a statement at the time. “He knows how important it is to have someone in Washington who will actively promote pro-life policies. Policies that include more than appointing judges who will follow the law but also opposing taxpayer funded abortion and partial birth abortion. I look forward to working with Dr. Willke and welcome him to Romney for President.”

Willke was equally effusive. “Governor Romney is the only candidate who can lead our pro-life and pro-family conservative movement to victory in 2008,” he said in the statement.
And in the wake of Akin’s controversial remarks - - including that women who are raped don't get pregnant - - Willke reprised his beliefs in The New York Times:
“This is a traumatic thing — she’s, shall we say, she’s uptight,” Dr. Willke said of a woman being raped, adding, “She is frightened, tight, and so on. And sperm, if deposited in her vagina, are less likely to be able to fertilize. The tubes are spastic.” 

Leading experts on reproductive health, however, dismissed this logic. 

“There are no words for this — it is just nuts,” said Dr. Michael Greene, a professor of obstetrics, gynecology and reproductive biology at Harvard Medical School.
All of which is doing legitimate damage to Romney's campaign, and the reputation of Paul Ryan, Romney's Robin, and Akin’s close political and philosophical ally.

124 posted on 08/22/2012 10:29:16 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: PhxTM06
him going on the full-liberal tour, talking to Matt Lauer, George Stephanopoulos and almost Piers Morgan shows me the guy doesn't have the proper judgment or common sense that is required for the office he's seeking.

Why the hell should he go on FOX? So Hannity can try to browbeat him into resigning again? The liberal media will actually give him a fairer shake because the Republican media has their RNC-provided talking points on hand to try to destroy him, the same ones FOX marched in lockstep with to push Romney to the nomination. Absolutely nobody is as brutal to conservatives as the Republican media when they want to be. Just ask Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum. At least CNN hasn't banned Newt from the channel just because he honestly said Fox was biased towards Romney, something it didn't take a rocket scientist to notice. Keep in mind, Fox used the same RNC talking point question on every show at the time, "So, Newt and Rick, when are you dropping out and will you support Romney if he wins?" Romney was never asked if he'd support the other candidates if they won.

Oh, and, is Romney only going to do interviews with Fox? Is he going to ignore NBC, CNN, CBS and ABC in his campaign? Great way to get his message out, huh? Will you vow now to call Romney out as unqualified to be a candidate if he does an interview with CNN, ABC, CBS, etc?

125 posted on 08/22/2012 10:33:48 PM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: TomasUSMC
A woman can only get pregnant 6 days a month. Max. 30 days in a month. What are the chances that she gets raped during those exact days. Do the math.

20%

126 posted on 08/22/2012 10:36:06 PM PDT by Antonello (Oh my God, don't shoot the banana!)
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To: Leto
Part of the job is presenting positions in a clear coherent manner, Akin has failed hat simple test. He is an inarticulate clod.

And McConnell, Boehner and Romney are masters of communicating the conservative message? Where is this mythical army of articulate conservative Republicans who you want to replace our current 300 elected officials with? You have to have a consistent standard, and by that standard 90% of our party would have to have their funding cut off. The voters of Missouri had their shot to judge who was the best Republican candidate. It's not our job to second-guess their decision.

127 posted on 08/22/2012 10:37:51 PM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: Kickass Conservative
My concern is his impact on the Republicans getting back the Senate, and Akin is a one man wrecking crew.

The Republican Party was going to get racked by the Democrats on their platform stance anyway! No one was going to remove that stance as doing so would damn sure ensure an election loss as abortion issue voters would have bailed on them in droves and they knew it!

Republican platform committee abortion

Your comment makes no sense.

128 posted on 08/22/2012 10:37:53 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: hecht
we can sure win on the strongly agree
Thanks for sharing your opinion on the basis of one question.
129 posted on 08/22/2012 10:39:51 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: hecht
Here is what is driving me crazy.

Instead of discussing how Politically inept Akin has shown himself to be, we have people here using statistics in an effort to prove the idiotic unnecessary comments he made are “technically” true. They aren't, but I digress.

People don't care about whether Akin had a point, the Voters really don't care. Akin sounds like a Nut with his RAPE theory, and most people don't Vote for Nuts. (well, not Republican Nuts anyway)

All they know is Akin attached RAPE to the PRO LIFE position and he lost. He has damaged the Pro Life cause and he doesn't even see it.

This topic wasn't a blip on the Radar, now it will be a noose around every Republican Candidate's neck. It isn't fair, but it's the world we live in.

130 posted on 08/22/2012 10:42:18 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Republicans Hope people are Smart, but Democrats Know people are Stupid.)
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To: Kickass Conservative
The issue here is simple, Akin is just a stubborn SOB who won't admit his mistake, and his hilarious Apology Tour is just making it worse.

Uh, he admitted his mistake over and over, man. Just check his web site for one thing.

131 posted on 08/22/2012 10:42:40 PM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: Kickass Conservative

132 posted on 08/22/2012 10:43:24 PM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: hecht
people in echo chambers think everyone agrees. they don’t realize that the 2-3% that believe in the magic uterus , that think pregnant rape victims are liars can win an election.

I'm not in an echo chamber. I'm in Pennsylvania near Philadelphia and hear people singing the praises of Obama and Obamacare every day. When you mention you're Republican or believe in a conservative position here, people just stare at you, totally confused and don't know what to say.

And talk about people not realizing stuff. You're not going to win anyone over by claiming Akin said pregnant rape victims are liars. That's a false smear, utterly absurd, and sounds like a talking point you picked up off of the Rachel Maddow show. He said NOTHING REMOTELY even close to that.

133 posted on 08/22/2012 10:46:27 PM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: philman_36
This does not speak of a man who has a good handle on his tongue. Image and video hosting by TinyPic
134 posted on 08/22/2012 10:46:27 PM PDT by JerseyanExile
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To: hecht
They want to move on and forget what Akin said, and they then come up with pseudo science to then BACK UP what he said

stress miscarriage cortisol

I'll give you some time to read up on some actual science...not that I expect any reply back.

135 posted on 08/22/2012 10:49:27 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: JerseyanExile

It’s a good point, that can be extended in a secular way. You could be aborting someone who would have gone on to cure cancer.


136 posted on 08/22/2012 10:52:37 PM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: JerseyanExile
Oh, great! Another "conservative" with the newest smear campaign!


I see you've already bought the spikes.


137 posted on 08/22/2012 10:54:30 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: JerseyanExile
What was the price? About 30 pieces of silver?

138 posted on 08/22/2012 10:59:18 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

i am a physician of 25 years.
if you think a google search for stress miscarriage cortisol constitutes actual science , there is even less hope for you.


139 posted on 08/22/2012 11:00:32 PM PDT by hecht (restore Hetch-Hetchy, and screw San Francisco and Pelosi)
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To: philman_36
The Republican Platform position is for another Thread. We are discussing Akin being an idiot by risking our chance to retake the Senate and kill Obamacare.

Akin said something stupid and it can't be defended. He has given up a comfortable lead, not because he is Pro Life, but because he can't articulate a point.

He isn't a guy sitting on a bar stool pontificating like Cliff Klaven. He is a Candidate for the U.S. Senate and he has singlehandidly given his opponent and every other Democrat an issue that can be exploited.

If you don't see that, enjoy sharing Akin’s delusion.

140 posted on 08/22/2012 11:00:59 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Republicans Hope people are Smart, but Democrats Know people are Stupid.)
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